Beach deaths 'not Israel's fault'
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You didn't know? AP is a zionist news agency:rollseyes
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The reports also said that iraq had wmd's those brothers arrested in london were terrorists ever heard of censership I for one know deep down they're guilty lets no forget they kill palastinians day in day out and have invaded their land.
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The reports also said that iraq had wmd's those brothers arrested in london were terrorists ever heard of censership I for one know deep down they're guilty lets no forget they kill palastinians day in day out and have invaded their land.
Your free to have your conspiracy theory I guess... that is what freedom and democracy (found mostly in the west) are all about.
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Re: Palestinian explosives caused beach deaths
And God is just.
That's strange, i read on the news that the Israeli army actually admitted to launching the missile. So, clearly at least one lie is being told.ganeshsikkim said:
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hey ganeshsikkim
newsflash, whole europe is against israel for their terrorism against the palestinian people.
u can look at the statistics and how many palestinians died. the only way ur defending israel is cuz of religion since palestinians are muslims
newsflash, whole europe is against israel for their terrorism against the palestinian people.
u can look at the statistics and how many palestinians died. the only way ur defending israel is cuz of religion since palestinians are muslims
Actually there is a poll out this week of "European opinion makers" which I guess means important people. Support for the Palestinians is diving. For instance
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Three years ago, 60 percent of French respondents said they took a side in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and of that 60%, four out of five backed the Palestinians. Today, by contrast, 60% of French respondents did not take a side in the conflict, and support for the Palestinians had dropped by half among those who did express a preference.
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There was a sense "that Europe could cancel out its own colonial history by taking the 'right' side" - the Palestinian side. Yasser Arafat was viewed as "an anti-colonial, liberation leader."
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Today, by contrast, the Europeans "are focused on fundamentalist Islam and its impact on them," he said. The Europeans were now asking themselves "who is the moderate in this conflict, and who is the extremist? And suddenly it is the Palestinians who may be the extremists, or who are allied with extremists who threaten Europe's own society."
An increasing proportion of Europeans are concluding that "maybe the Palestinians are not the colonialist victims" after all.
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There was a sense "that Europe could cancel out its own colonial history by taking the 'right' side" - the Palestinian side. Yasser Arafat was viewed as "an anti-colonial, liberation leader."
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Today, by contrast, the Europeans "are focused on fundamentalist Islam and its impact on them," he said. The Europeans were now asking themselves "who is the moderate in this conflict, and who is the extremist? And suddenly it is the Palestinians who may be the extremists, or who are allied with extremists who threaten Europe's own society."
An increasing proportion of Europeans are concluding that "maybe the Palestinians are not the colonialist victims" after all.
Palestine will have to struggle for independence on its own without European support.
And don't say I didn't warn you because of course I did.
Israel changes tack on beach deaths
Wednesday 14 June 2006, 14:05 Makka Time, 11:05 GMT
Palestinians have called for a UN inquiry into the explosion
Israel has conceded that it may have been responsible for the Gaza beach deaths after all, having ruled out any hint of blame hours earlier.
The military said on Wednesday that old Israeli ordnance could have killed the eight Palestinians last Friday, after its previous denial of responsibility was received with scepticism by the United Nations and elsewhere.
General Meir Klifi, who is leading the Israeli military investigation, said an examination of shrapnel removed from one of the casualties proved that it did not come from a 155mm shell - the type his army was firing at the Gaza Strip last Friday.
But he told Israeli radio: "It could be from another kind of munition that we have used in the past."
He said, however, that his investigation was incomplete so his findings were not conclusive.
This was a retreat from his position on Tuesday night when he appeared at a news conference with General Dan Halutz, the chief of staff, who said "we do not bear responsibility" for the deaths.
Amir Peretz, the Israeli defence minister, also said: "We have enough evidence that back our big suspicions that the attempt to present this as an Israeli incident is simply untrue."
Palestinians have asked for a UN investigation into the incident.
Human Rights Watch, a US-based group, has already inspected the site of the explosion.
Marc Garlasco, a former Pentagon adviser who is now a military analyst with the group, said: "It is my contention that the most likely scenario is that Israeli shelling hit the area."
Of Israeli suggestions that the blast was caused by a Palestinian mine, he said: "This is patently not the case." He told AFP: "We are very certain that it is a 155mm shell."
'Nothing to hide'
Kofi Annan, the UN secretary-general, called Israel's claims "odd".
Asked whether an international inquiry was needed, he said: "We would need both the Israelis and Palestinian authorities to co-operate with such an investigation."
An Israeli foreign ministry official said no request had been received from the UN to conduct an inquiry, but said Israel would co-operate if one were received. "We have nothing to hide," he said.
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Wednesday 14 June 2006, 14:05 Makka Time, 11:05 GMT
Palestinians have called for a UN inquiry into the explosion
Israel has conceded that it may have been responsible for the Gaza beach deaths after all, having ruled out any hint of blame hours earlier.
The military said on Wednesday that old Israeli ordnance could have killed the eight Palestinians last Friday, after its previous denial of responsibility was received with scepticism by the United Nations and elsewhere.
General Meir Klifi, who is leading the Israeli military investigation, said an examination of shrapnel removed from one of the casualties proved that it did not come from a 155mm shell - the type his army was firing at the Gaza Strip last Friday.
But he told Israeli radio: "It could be from another kind of munition that we have used in the past."
He said, however, that his investigation was incomplete so his findings were not conclusive.
This was a retreat from his position on Tuesday night when he appeared at a news conference with General Dan Halutz, the chief of staff, who said "we do not bear responsibility" for the deaths.
Amir Peretz, the Israeli defence minister, also said: "We have enough evidence that back our big suspicions that the attempt to present this as an Israeli incident is simply untrue."
Palestinians have asked for a UN investigation into the incident.
Human Rights Watch, a US-based group, has already inspected the site of the explosion.
Marc Garlasco, a former Pentagon adviser who is now a military analyst with the group, said: "It is my contention that the most likely scenario is that Israeli shelling hit the area."
Of Israeli suggestions that the blast was caused by a Palestinian mine, he said: "This is patently not the case." He told AFP: "We are very certain that it is a 155mm shell."
'Nothing to hide'
Kofi Annan, the UN secretary-general, called Israel's claims "odd".
Asked whether an international inquiry was needed, he said: "We would need both the Israelis and Palestinian authorities to co-operate with such an investigation."
An Israeli foreign ministry official said no request had been received from the UN to conduct an inquiry, but said Israel would co-operate if one were received. "We have nothing to hide," he said.
Source
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Please they already lied once they're doing it again they have invaded Palistine already that must show their intentions, or is it the fact the victims are muslim that you can't side with them?