Being Conservative or Secular?

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I wanted to have a discussion with those muslims who would call themselves 'moderate' or 'secular'. It is very important that we understand the position of Islam in our lives.

Insha'Allah we will also cover issues such as music, movies, and the secular lifestyle.

We should remember that Islam is the moderate path. Hence, Muslims have no need for labels such as conservative or secular. Islam is the complete and balanced system that will grant us success in this world and the next.


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Asalamualaikum wr wb,

Islamic songs with haraam music allowed in Islam? some say "If its spreading the word of Islam, then its allowed"

so whats the ruling behind it?

walaikum salaam wr wb.
 
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The whole secular-muslim thing is quite contradictory...
 
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Islamic songs with haraam music allowed in Islam? some say "If its spreading the word of Islam, then its allowed"
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With regards to music, there are several restrictions and limitations in Islam, which emphasize one's purpose in life and discourage attachment to such material desires.

Your question of using haraam music to promote Islam is a very good question. Certain questions must be asked, eg. Why not use halal music? And we must consider the Islamic alternatives.

Haraam music would include music with waste lyrics or excessive instruments beyond the percussion permitted in Islam. If Islam has discouraged such things, then how can they be of any benefit in bringing people to Islam, irrespective of the content of the lyrics.

Simply put, Muslims should avoid such doubtful matters. Even if you think you can win hearts through rap with Islamic lyrics etc., nothing will ever wns hearts as well as the blessed message of Allah Glorified and Exalted, the Holy Qur'an.

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Well, to start, do you believe in God? And to what extent does that belief permeate your heart? Is it a belief, or simply a tradition of your ancestors which you follow?

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No need to answer questions I haven't asked. :)

Okay, so you do believe that there is a creator, the One God. And this is your free belief from your heart.

moving on to the next question:
What do you believe our purpose in life is?
 
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Asalamu Alaikum

Brother, let's try not think bad of our brothers insha Allah.
 
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Do secular muslims see premartial sex, drinking, and things like that as haram?
 
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I think the question is not what is regarded as haraam or not (since the Qur'an is very clear on these issues), but how important the laws of the Qur'an are to secular Muslims. Many probably don't care, and see it only as a tradition of their ancestors.

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Regarding thinking of Islamic Issues as tales of the ancients:

083.013 When Our Signs are rehearsed to him, he says, "Tales of the ancients!"

083.014 By no means! but on their hearts is the stain of the (ill) which they do!


068.015 When to him are rehearsed Our Signs, "Tales of the ancients", he cries!

068.016 Soon shall We brand (the beast) on the snout!

Wasalam
 
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Many probably don't care, and see it only as a tradition of their ancestors.
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Then what is the point that they consider them haram? In other words, they don't mind getting into haram?
 
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They understand that Islam prohibits such things, but they don't really care very much about what Islam prohibits and permits. They consider religion like some background name that has no impact in their lives.
 
Re: Being conservative?

They understand that Islam prohibits such things, but they don't really care very much about what Islam prohibits and permits. They consider religion like some background name that has no impact in their lives.
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Don't take it the wrong way, but I want a secular muslim to confirm this.
 
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I think it does have some impact on their lives, but only to an extent. Islam is fine when it comes to Ramadan and celebrating Eid, but when it comes to prohibition of other things that might make their lives more difficicult or challenge their current ideaology they discard it as extremity.
 

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