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sonz said:
if your child was gay, what would you do??? if they couldnt resist their feelings and already had a relationship with another samesex partner, what would you do???
First of all, there is an assumption made in this question. That assumption is that homosexuality is a genetic trait, something people are born with. This is only one position in the scientific community as researchers believe that physical environment has a tremendous impact as well. The born-gay theory is discussed in great detail in articles linked here:
http://www.narth.com/menus/born.html
Secondly, the question presupposes poor parenting on the part of the parents who are unaware of the child's situation until they are already into such a "relationship".
But for the sake of argument, were someone in this position, they should take the necessary steps to educate their child about their illness, like many other children who are born with illnesses, born blind, born deaf, etc. Then one can teach their child how to cope with this illness islamically and how to restrain it.
if they still said that they believe in allah azwajjal even tho homosexuality is a major sin in islam. would you still accept them and love them as you used to love them???
The child should know that it is a sin in Islam, and the parents should make dua to Allah swt to help their child. Of course, the parents should love their child.
Greetings Root,
root said:
I accept that anal sex can be a risky business and I am not here to support it nor defend it since I to do not practice it. Homosexuality, and it's acceptance is the issue here. We cannot just state that because homosexuality involves anal sex albeit because homosexuality only practice anal sex.
My original statement was that there were severe medical and islamic consequences to homosexuality. You challenged me to substantiate my claim (the medical aspect I assumed), therefore I proved my claim based on the fact that homosexuality involves anal sex, a very dangerous practice with severe medical consequences. Therefore, my claim that homosexuality has severe medical consequences was 100% true. Your only counter-argument was that anal sex is not practiced only by homosexuals. Of course that's beside the point. I don't care about the harmful consequences of other types of illnesses, I was only dealing with homosexuality.
The fallacy of your argument is akin to the following argument:
if I were arguing that car A is a poor and terrible vehicle, then you respond for proof of car A's low quality. I respond by pointing out its motor problems. You counter by saying that car B also has those problems!
What difference does it make if car B has the same problems?! If car A has the problems then my claim is proven!
Similarly, my claim that homosexuality has severe medical consequences, is also proven.
I hope it is clearer now.
An individuals right has to be taken into account, without taking a standpoint that homosexuals are in anyway a product of the West or have a mental/physical ailment.
An ailment/illness/disorder is a condition which causes the body or mind to operate abnormally. Since Islam views hetrosexuality as the norm, homosexuality is justifiably considered an illness or ailment.
But even if its an ailment that doesn't mean that such a person loses their rights! They are still loved but they are also helped and treated to aid them in coping with their affliction.
I think this argument has been effectively wrapped up. If you have any new information to contribute you are free to do so, but I hope you will not continue to argue just for the sake of argument.
Peace
The Islamic standpoint is 'hate the action, not the person'. I mean, I hate the act of smoking, but that doesn't mean I go out and beat smokers to within an inch of their life. Similarly, I don't discriminate them (though I might ask them to put out their cigarette when they're in my house), so in that sense I accept them.
