Benazir Bhutto Died

[M..x]

well well well

i think the time has come for good old uncle musharraf to step down and for pakistan to undergo a massive change

also i think its stupid that people are burnin down banks and buses, the bank didnt kill her!!! but typical dum pakis always need a excuse to show themselfs

and all these other rulers nawaz sharif, whatever he aint shareef!!!! they just after power!

may Allah (swt) guide pakistanis and save the land from any bad and make them have god fearing rulers, ameen!!

*eyes rolly*
Yano i'm just shhocked, though i didnt necessarily aggree wif her ideology as aamirsaab said, wouldnt wish that upon anyone...Some heartless twisted person killed her & his sentence will be served inshAllah...May Allah rest ha soul in peace & grant her the death of a martyr...
Az for tha retaliation and the conflict as a result of her death, May Allah be their guides...Pakistan is in turmoil, its a wrecked state & its a shame musharraf janaab cant see that :muddlehea
Peace

 

[M..x]

she knew what she was getting into returning to pakistan.
plus she was one corrupt woman.

plus she wanted to make pakistan more secular and pleasing to the west.
basically a puppet.

Yano no disrespect but like corrupt? Its a strong word to label someone with that....I mean i DONT always aggree wif everthing she said esp about the Laal Masjid incident but i dont quite know if thats a words i would describe her using....May Allah have mercy on her soul...One thing i really admire is her determination...She waz a fighter a say tha least?...No offence intended... Salaamz n that

 

[wilberhum]

Yeah even I did not like this liberal lady, but killing her was not the way to go. however if she got elected she would have sent the army to fight and kill more so called "terrorists" muslims. So her death is both a curse and a blessing for Pakistan. OOOOH wellll, her real test is now with Allah.

So you conceder "so called "terrorists" muslims" a blessing? :muddlehea:hiding:

 

[snakelegs]

i hope the rioting dies down and does not continue in to tomorrow.
it looks like there may have to be martial law....again.
how many more people must die? :unhappy:

 

[abbas_ali]

the deed has been done............what will be will be....lets just wait and see

i don't think there is anything wrong with liberal per se, i'm glad i live in a country where despite recent events we live in a liberal democray where generally speak most things and people are accepted and tolerated - although it clearly isn't perfect.

I didn't like it when she said "moderate Pakistan" though, because she wanted a place where islam was firmly in the background and people led their life the way the West wanted.

 

[Cognescenti]

...... reminds me of Martin Luthor King jr...did i spell that right...?...anyway...of course no one knows who shot him... and now prolly no one will know who shot her... anway

A Martin Luther King assassination conspiracy on LI Islamic Forum?? That is a new one.

As for the shooter in this case, they should look for the torso with no arms, legs or head. That should narrow it down.

 

[truemuslim]

^^^ ew...

 

[Cognescenti]

she knew what she was getting into returning to pakistan.
plus she was one corrupt woman.

plus she wanted to make pakistan more secular and pleasing to the west.
basically a puppet.

Wow. It sounds like we have half a dozen here ready to step up into the void left by the tragic death of the homicide bomber.


"Puppet of the West"???? Oh man. This is going to be a long war. Is anyone else getting a bad feeling?

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

Wow. It sounds like we have half a dozen here ready to step up into the void left by the tragic death of the homicide bomber.

And that's perhaps even without the posts that were deleted...

"Puppet of the West"???? Oh man. This is going to be a long war. Is anyone else getting a bad feeling?

You bet.

Peace

 

[north_malaysian]

Why people rioting after her death?

I think it could be an excuse for Musharraf to call "emergency rule" again....

 

[Umm Hurairah]

Asalaamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatu,

Inna Nillahi Wa Ina Ilaihi Rajioon

"And it may be that you like something which is bad for you, and you dislike something which is good for you; Allah knows and you do not."
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[Qingu]

A secular, West-friendly, outspoken, female politician is assassinated in an Islamic country by a suicide bomber.

I'm shocked.

 

[KAding]

The fact that she was killed in a so-called 'martyrdom operation'/suicide bombing kinda points in the direction of religious radicals, does it not? Or are there examples out there of secular extremists blowing themselves up for the cause? Are there Musharraf supporters using such tactics?

 

[The_Prince]

A secular, West-friendly, outspoken, female politician is assassinated in an Islamic country by a suicide bomber.

I'm shocked.

yup it isnt suprising when you think of it, its secular nations who have been attacking and occupying and destabilising Muslim countries for the past century....either they forcefully occupy, or they make a covert coup i.e. operation ajax, or they install dictators providing them with huge money and support i.e. saddam, musharif, mubarak etc etc etc....so its not suprising at all that a person from this group would be assasinated.

 

[Grace Seeker]

yup it isnt suprising when you think of it, its secular nations who have been attacking and occupying and destabilising Muslim countries for the past century....either they forcefully occupy, or they make a covert coup i.e. operation ajax, or they install dictators providing them with huge money and support i.e. saddam, musharif, mubarak etc etc etc....so its not suprising at all that a person from this group would be assasinated.

Maybe so. But Musharif, not Bhutto, was the "puppet" of the USA. I think Musharif did not believe all the things he has done, but has done them to stay in power, and if that means being the "puppet" of the West then he is happy to be that. Bhutto on the other hand, struck me as her own woman. She was not pro-democracy to appease the western democracies, she was pro-democracy for Pakistan because she according to her own principals she truly believed it was best for Pakistan. If that made the West happy, she was OK with that and could cooperate with them. And if it had not pleased the West, she still would have held the same views.

Bhutto has said in October that although she was no fool to think that her life was safe, she had nothing to fear from a "true Muslim". Yet, I agree with those who say that they suspect that the assassin must surely was motivated by "religious" reasons even more than politcal (not that the two are inextricably mixed). So, does this mean that Bhutto was wrong, or does this mean that some who are "religously" motivated are not "true Muslims"?

 

[wilberhum]

yup it isnt suprising when you think of it, its secular nations who have been attacking and occupying and destabilising Muslim countries for the past century....either they forcefully occupy, or they make a covert coup i.e. operation ajax, or they install dictators providing them with huge money and support i.e. saddam, musharif, mubarak etc etc etc....so its not suprising at all that a person from this group would be assasinated.

That sounds a lot like you are supporting the killing.

 

[Qingu]

yup it isnt suprising when you think of it, its secular nations who have been attacking and occupying and destabilising Muslim countries for the past century....either they forcefully occupy, or they make a covert coup i.e. operation ajax, or they install dictators providing them with huge money and support i.e. saddam, musharif, mubarak etc etc etc....so its not suprising at all that a person from this group would be assasinated.

Please. Muslims have been assassinating people a long time before there ever was a "West."

In fact, assassination seems to be a common theme in Islam's history, right down to the very beginning with Uthman's assassination. Before that, actually—since the Prophet ordered the assassinations of poets who criticized him. Even the word "assassin" comes from Muslims.

So I'm not surprised that Muslims have assassinated yet another person they don't like; they have a long and storied tradition of assassinations to back them up.

Nor am I surprised to see Muslims like yourself eager to blame it all on the West. Because that never gets old.

 

[Cognescenti]

Point of clarification. Just so we are on the same page, I propose we settle on a definition of "puppet of the West".

How about these features?

1) Attended a "Western" university (and, of course, acquired poisonous ideas).

2) Female and refuses to walk behind her husband.

3) Advocacy for democracy and the poor.

 

[snakelegs]

Pakistan: Al-Qaeda claims Bhutto's death

Karachi, 27 Dec. (AKI) - (by Syed Saleem Shahzad) - A spokesperson for the al-Qaeda terrorist network has claimed responsibility for the death on Thursday of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto.

“We terminated the most precious American asset which vowed to defeat [the] mujahadeen,” Al-Qaeda’s commander and main spokesperson Mustafa Abu Al-Yazid told Adnkronos International (AKI) in a phone call from an unknown location, speaking in faltering English. Al-Yazid is the main al-Qaeda commander in Afghanistan.

It is believed that the decision to kill Bhutto, who is the leader of the opposition Pakistan People's Party (PPP), was made by al-Qaeda No. 2, the Egyptian doctor, Ayman al-Zawahiri in October.

full story
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=1.0.1710322437

 

[Uthman]

Shocking. Very sad news.

Btw, loads of Islam bashing going on because of this at the Have your say section on the BBC website.

Might I propose that some of us post there too?