Best Muslim country to live in and best amy to join?

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al yunan said:
Salam sister,

Under basic Shariah for the four Mathab defending your life, family, region or country against any invader is Jihad therefore no Fatwa needed.
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wa alaykumu salaam,

Thats right. I understand the basic rules of jihad and what the afghans are doing at the moment might be classified as jihad as they have been invaded in their own country Allah knows best but an outsider coming to join the taliban would that be seen as jihad? Maybe it would maybe it wouldnt but people shouldnt tell other people to join the taliban and they are guranteed for paradise. Nobody knows that.


al yunan said:
By the way in that country's entire recorded history it has never been defeated and we all know the saying "history repeats its self"
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Inshallah the invaders will be defeated again.


al yunan said:
Also what do you mean "no fatwas that have been issued......" who would issue such a binding Fatwa for we have no Khalifate or Amir ul Mukminin ? Masalam
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I meant there is no agreement between the scholars or rather lack of acknowledgement that talibans war against the west is jihad. The scholars arent certain which is why people shouldnt preach things like 'guranteed paradise' for those who join the taliban
 
Woodrow said:
Looking through the US military statistics I find that the current USA military manpower is:

As of 30 September 2010, 1,430,895 people are on active duty in the military with an additional 848,000 people in the seven reserve components. Currently there are 94,000 in Afghanistan and 92,000 in Iraq. For a total of 186,000 combined. Meaning that less than 1/10 of the US manpower is being used there. In other words a soldier joinin today has a 1 out of 10 chance of going to either Afghanistan or Iraq. There are 194,965 military troops stationed in Texas. A person joining the military is more likely to be assigned to Texas rather than ever seeing combat in Afghanistan. For the "Patriotic" young men thinking of joining the military to "defend " their country, there is no real incentive as 90% of those joining will never see combat. Most young people today can find higher paying employment outside the military and they can see no reason to join.

I think the reason people are hollering about recruitment being down is because congress is threatening budget cuts for the military. Another problem there seems to be a trend for some states to be using the military as a substitute for jail for convicted criminals. Giving them pardons in exchange for joining the military.



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Jazzakallah khair. Interesting Figures. Found some of them a little surprising and wow only 10% of those joining will see combat. Thats is a very small amount.
 
Ar-RaYYan said:
Jazzakallah khair. Interesting Figures. Found some of them a little surprising and wow only 10% of those joining will see combat. Thats is a very small amount.
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Here in the USA unless the Congress votes to declare a State of War the president is limited to authorizing a maximum of 20% of the US military outside the USA. 10% is already committed to foreign bases so that leaves only 10% to use in Afghanistan and/or Iraq. However with today's mechanized war methods, very few combat troops are needed. for example most of the damage being done is by unmanned air craft, piloted by pilots who need not even leave the comfort of home. The ground troops actually do the least amount of damage. The actual combat is fought thousands of miles away from any combat zone, by people who will never step foot in a combat zone.

War today is almost a factory run assembly line, with little human intervention required. Some days I feel the only reason any ground forces are in Afghanistan is to cause the Muhajidun to fire at them, thereby revealing their location to the satellites positioned over Afghanistan. directing the unmanned drones to them as targets.
 
Woodrow said:
Here in the USA unless the Congress votes to declare a State of War the president is limited to authorizing a maximum of 20% of the US military outside the USA. 10% is already committed to foreign bases so that leaves only 10% to use in Afghanistan and/or Iraq. However with today's mechanized war methods, very few combat troops are needed. for example most of the damage being done is by unmanned air craft, piloted by pilots who need not even leave the comfort of home. The ground troops actually do the least amount of damage. The actual combat is fought thousands of miles away from any combat zone, by people who will never step foot in a combat zone.

War today is almost a factory run assembly line, with little human intervention required. Some days I feel the only reason any ground forces are in Afghanistan is to cause the Muhajidun to fire at them, thereby revealing their location to the satellites positioned over Afghanistan. directing the unmanned drones to them as targets.
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Well there is a reason they call them "cannon fodder"...
 
Ar-RaYYan said:
I meant there is no agreement between the scholars or rather lack of acknowledgement that talibans war against the west is jihad. The scholars arent certain which is why people shouldnt preach things like 'guranteed paradise' for those who join the taliban
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Understood !
 
Just a Guy said:
Well there is a reason they call them "cannon fodder"...
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True. Like it or not and no matter what is said. the American Ground soldier of today is often considered to be expendable merchandise with no purpose except for being targets.

No wonder people are getting waivers from prison to go into to the military. It solves 2 problems gets the criminals out of the US and provides disposable targets for use in Afghanistan. I guess we should thank the Taliban, they are saving the US the cost of building new jails.
 
Woodrow said:
True. Like it or not and no matter what is said. the American Ground soldier of today is often considered to be expendable merchandise with no purpose except for being targets.

No wonder people are getting waivers from prison to go into to the military. It solves 2 problems gets the criminals out of the US and provides disposable targets for use in Afghanistan. I guess we should thank the Taliban, they are saving the US the cost of building new jails.
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And I almost joined the army when I was in college. Lucky me for I failed the entrance exam...
 
Karl said:
You are best to go to Afghanistan and join the Taliban. They are fighting a Holy war so it is a win win situation. They are at war with the Satanic Zionists. The Taliban need skilled men to upgrade against the enemys of Islam. If you die fighting you are guaranteed paradise.
Btw, democracy is an ancient pagan Athenian system that failed and has no connection to Islam.
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What a brilliant idea, do you know how I can get there without being killed on my way, where are they training camps? Publicly available or have the UK and US troops bombed them.......?:omg:
 
i suggest u, stay away from wars. focus on self improvement. and dont bother wherever u are, struggle for strong eman so that u will be saved from fitna dajjal and accompany Mehdi AS. i read that his army will have four parts. one will be western Muslims.
 
OK so if I don't go to war, which Muslim country would be good to live in? (except Pakistan....)
 
None! they're all corrupted . Actually the whole world is corrupted But Many countries has certain areas with some really nice enlightened muslim communities specially in the states .
 
I wonder is it even halal to join an army that fights for and defends a goverment that establishes democracy and secularism? Will you not be giving your life to defend this system of democracy and form of goverment? And what if the army you're apart of kills Muslims because the government commands it?
 
salam

I can comment on 1st question which will not connect to your 2nd Q
I think it is Malaysia - I observed enough
for Arabic country - it is of course Kuwait !!!! yay
 
PoweredByGoogle said:
What a brilliant idea, do you know how I can get there without being killed on my way, where are they training camps? Publicly available or have the UK and US troops bombed them.......?:omg:
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Pakistan is the gateway to the Taliban but is also used by the Legion of the Anti Christ. But I think it is futile to bother with if your not an Afghan. It's bascally a cat and mouse game over there. The "war on terror" is an excuse to invade and occupy territory for millitary and commercial gains and America's interests of Zionist global domination. The so called "Islamic terrorist threat" is a red herring and the Russians and Chinese know. You would be better to sit back and wait for the world powers to go to war with each other. You know the old saying "fools rush in where heros fear to tread." Jihad against a superpower is basically suicide.
 
Karl said:
Jihad against a superpower is basically suicide.
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Salam Karl,

Unless you possess weapons they can't own.
Ghaib weapons !
As used successfully by some of the original Mujaheddin against the U.S.S.R.

Masalam
 
You're all forgetting the real lesson here, guys.

"Never fight a land war in Asia." Ask the Romans, British, French, Germans, Soviets, or Americans. I'm sure there's someone I forgot somewhere.

A close second is "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line", but I don't think that applies here... ;D
 
Moving away will most likely not solve any problems you seem to have. I've heard from many people that the West is actually better in many regards when it comes to being a Muslim, especially when compared with other "Muslim" countries. Moving away might seem like it will help, but I seriously doubt you'll find what you're looking for...

And why on earth would you want to fight in any army? And considering how NOBODY on this forum (myself included) knows enough about the Taliban to really talk about them with confidence, I find it odd that you'd even consider joining them... Most sources (which I'm sure you don't believe) report the Taliban as murderers... Now I'm sure this isn't ALL of the Taliban, but that would bring up another problem... From what I've read and gathered, there doesn't seem to be one single group called the Taliban (and they dont' seem to have been very consistent through the years... I hear they started out with good intentions and all, but now...). Afghanistan is kind of a mess, and you'll probably find different factions, each with their own goals. I wouldn't recommend it, but it's your call I guess. I don't claim to have any first hand information, so... Yeah. :p Just think about everything and talk to some more people (in real life) before you possibly do something stupid that you might regret...
 
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Tyrion said:
Moving away will most likely not solve any problems you seem to have. I've heard from many people that the West is actually better in many regards when it comes to being a Muslim, especially when compared with other "Muslim" countries. Moving away might seem like it will help, but I seriously doubt you'll find what you're looking for...

And why on earth would you want to fight in any army? And considering how NOBODY on this forum (myself included) knows enough about the Taliban to really talk about them with confidence, I find it odd that you'd even consider joining them... Most sources (which I'm sure you don't believe) report the Taliban as murderers... Now I'm sure this isn't ALL of the Taliban, but that would bring up another problem... From what I've read and gathered, there doesn't seem to be one single group called the Taliban (and they dont' seem to have been very consistent through the years... I hear they started out with good intentions and all, but now...). Afghanistan is kind of a mess, and you'll probably find different factions, each with their own goals. I wouldn't recommend it, but it's your call I guess. I don't claim to have any first hand information, so... Yeah. :p Just think about everything and talk to some more people (in real life) before you possibly do something stupid that you might regret...
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lol I don't want to join the taliban was just saying....lolz
 

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