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^ That's what I meant, Jazaak Allaah Khayr for explaining bro.
 
^ by judge if you mean to say "this person is going to heaven, and this person is going to helL" then NO we do not judge!

by judge, if you mean to say "this person is sinning, this person is a faasiq, this person is rude and ignorant", then you are calling it how it is! and in this case it is not judging.

For example if i see a woman or man beardless/hijaabless and free-mixing, i will say they are desensitised shameless by the west.

And this is evident outwardly, it does not mean they will not change on day !


this is NOT ultimately judging!


Assalamu Alaikum
 
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^ I would still prefer to stay quiet, and concentrate on myself, and how I can stop myself from sinning, rather than point fingers at others...
 
^ pointing fingers and making someone aware of their sins and warning others of it are completely different things.


if i saw my brother/sister act in a certain way, you'd best believe they would see me tell them to change straight away, and if they dont then i will warn others of them only because they make it public.


encouraging good and forbidding evil is a HUGE part of islaam.

dont forget that
 
Al Habeshi said:
Shave because they have a medical reason, I mean, if you going to forbid the evil of shaving you're not going to end up leaving the masjid on jumuah
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allahu a'lam bro, i have yet to find anyone who needs to shave due to a medical reason lol.


but if i found such a case i would approach the brother and talk to him about it and if he doesnt have an excuse then i would consider him as someone openly and intentionally sinning if he can and doesnt, just as someone who listens to music etc whilst aware of the opinions of all madhaahibs



i didnt get the end part about leaving masjid on jumuah?
 
Assalamualikum,

OK on topic post..I dont like big brother, i never watched it, i only know about the shilpa shetty thing she was cryin about..it's all reality t.v..b.s..

anyways ...I believe that we should give benefit of the doubt until we see that they are doing someting wrong as they know it's wrong... For example, What good will come out of Big Brother...??? there are other ways of giving dawah ..how is living with people you don't know a good thing..I could outwardly judge them and say that it is wrong and they should know it is wrong...If they practice they will know the difference between it..

On the other hand, if i see a sister without hijab i can guess that shez not aware of it and inshallah Allah will guide her but I can go talk to her and see what it is ...A brother with a beard...well there can be a lotta problems with that...one minute a brother can have a beard and next minute he doesn't..we don't know him nor his intentions..Yes if you know the brother then you can put him on the spot and ask him why he did it but we are not here to judge the brothers and sisters until we know for sure somethings up
 
IbnAbdulHakim said:
allahu a'lam bro, i have yet to find anyone who needs to shave due to a medical reason lol.
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One brother had to shave it after he had an accident on his motorbike so they could stitch something back.


IbnAbdulHakim said:
but if i found such a case i would approach the brother and talk to him about it and if he doesnt have an excuse then i would consider him as someone openly and intentionally sinning if he can and doesnt, just as someone who listens to music etc whilst aware of the opinions of all madhaahibs



i didnt get the end part about leaving masjid on jumuah?
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Lol, once I was waiting for some brothers after jumuah, and I see so many Muslim men shaven, so I was saying it would take a long time to get to all of them and speak to them about the beards, I saw more shaven people I think than people who let their beard grow. :X

As for big Brother it doesn't bother me that much, I mean, do we really think Muslims, the way we are, aren't gonna go for shoes like this?
 
^ yeah shaving is from the majority of muslims. And growing from the minority..


as a sahabi said.. may Allah make us from the few
 
IbnAbdulHakim has said it perfectly. You must forbid the evil, you cannot stay silent. It must be made clear to muslims that what they are doing is not correct according to sharia.

We do not excuse them on the grounds that we don't know if Allah will send them to heaven or hell - ofcourse we do not know that but we never claimed to do so.

The OP stated what I think about them regards to Islam - I said it clear cut - what they did does not represent Islam correctly - they have done alot of haram - Are you going to tell me I am incorrect? How can you when it is evidently clear.

I wasn't saying "Well, God will send them to hell" - I was saying, Big Brother is a very unislamic show, those who are participating arn't representing Islam at all (their is PROOF, it is not mere judging) and that is all that was said.

Remeber what the OP stated:

My question to Muslims here is how do you feel about Muslims taking part in this show?
Are they representing Islam in a manner which you approve of?
Should they be there at all?
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So, for first question - I do not approve of muslims taking part in the show, as I would disapprove of muslims working in a bar.

As for second question, due to the actions stated by them - ofcourse I dissaprove

Third question, as I stated, they shouldn't be their (in an Islamic persepective)

I have done no wrong and do not want to be accused of mallicious judgements.
 
Ummm... Isnt what we doing slandering and backbiting?
i dunno i was just going through the thread and it seems that we have more negative judgemental things to say about them than nice things. isnt that backbiting i mean we dont really know them if they choose to be on BB isnt that their business, no human soul is perfect we are all sinners one way or another so therefore thats why Allah swt is the most merficul and the most just.

shouldnt we be leaving this to Him and not increasing our sins about saying stuff about people that we dnt know?
 
Eeman said:
Ummm... Isnt what we doing slandering and backbiting?
i dunno i was just going through the thread and it seems that we have more negative judgemental things to say about them than nice things. isnt that backbiting i mean we dont really know them if they choose to be on BB isnt that their business, no human soul is perfect we are all sinners one way or another so therefore thats why Allah swt is the most merficul and the most just.

shouldnt we be leaving this to Him and not increasing our sins about saying stuff about people that we dnt know?
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Is it backbiting to state - that

a) A muslim drinking is bad as its against sharia?
b) That Big Brother is a show which muslims should not participate in?

I do not see them as backbiting, infact, rather, reinstating what the Sharia states on such issues. Sharia is in agreement that a muslim drinking/freemixing is not representative of Islam - and thats what I stated.
 
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Each to their own risk.
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sis have you noticed sometimes you make statements and comments without actually pondering over what we have said?

i clearly stated we avoid backchatting/backbiting

no we try to give naseehah and warn others.

this is NOT judging.
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
I watched the opening night and that woman who claims to be muslim, well she had everything on show and my first thought was ''if she's muslim them im an orang-utan!''

MO as he called drink beer, but his family don't know, well they do now he admitted to it live duh! He eats pork. So, anyone with knowledge would know these are not muslims just starved of fame.
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This is not backbiting?
 
also a note, if you analyse this whole thread you will NOT find any backbiting-slandering


Alhamdulillaah
 
SixTen said:
Is it backbiting to state - that

a) A muslim drinking is bad as its against sharia?
b) That Big Brother is a show which muslims should not participate in?

I do not see them as backbiting, infact, rather, reinstating what the Sharia states on such issues. Sharia is in agreement that a muslim drinking/freemixing is not representative of Islam - and thats what I stated.
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Dear sixten that comment was not meant only for you it was a we which was generalised so please do not take things so personal, i myself said somthing about alex which was not nice so hence why i wrote "we" including myself in it.

plus if someone drinks they are doing nothing but themselves wrong what harm are thy causing us? only Allah swt knows what lies in the breast of men.
He is the only just how do you know that the muslim brother or sister that we see always praying and preaching goes to jannah and the one drinking ends up in jahanum... maybe it could be the case where the muslim brother or sister only pray and look religious to be praised by people and just for show.
well God forbid but all im saying is that we really do not know.
yes drinking alcohol is not allowed in islam but so many muslims do it. thats not a burden on our shoulder its on their own we wont be held account for it they will. and as regards free mixing i dont think there is anything wrong with that what i do think is wrong is not to be free mixing cos then that would suggest that we are not tolerable towards other people. and how else are we supposed to increase the population of islam by only sticking to muslims?majority of reverts have welcomed islam that way.

and talking from my own experience it so unfortunate to say that sometimes kafir people can be better friends and more honest and caring people than our own brothers and sisters.
 

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