Bikini outcry stops party

[lolwatever]

What "point?" All my "points" have been questions. I know squat about Islam, I've said this time and time again. I ask questions and somehow it turns into a debate. I don't care if a male is required to make themselves unattractive. It doesn't apply to me.

she's just saying that you've answered ur own question with regard 2 that..

did u look at my point....... :?

 

[England]

she's just saying that you've answered ur own question with regard 2 that..

did u look at my point....... :?

No she's telling my point of the "debate" was wrong. I wasn't debating what men are wearing, I was asking a question. If it had been said that they are an exception then there would have been a case for debate.

I don't have enough time to submit papers to councillors but what I would say is that the reason, if true, that rape has falling in the middle east is due to the punishments. We here don't have capital punishment unfortunately. Over there, the thought of being stoned to death, beheaded whatever would be what would deter them. I have though, heard of many muslim women being raped in the middle east.

I can't reply to everyone's post. There's too many.

 

[Malaikah]

What "point?" All my "points" have been questions. I know squat about Islam, I've said this time and time again. I ask questions and somehow it turns into a debate.

Sorry I didn't mean to imply that you were debating, it is just that some of the things you said are offensive to Muslims. Also your tone is a bit rough, maybe if you softened it up a bit it would sound less like your trying to argue.

I don't care if a male is required to make themselves unattractive. It doesn't apply to me.

Beards don't make men ugly!

After someone telling me "a man dresses this way, appears this way to put off women" when have I said "no you're wrong, they do that, they do this blar de blar?"
So I don't quite see what part of my point is useless.

I'm not quite sure what you mean here.

Perhaps I was being a little defensive. I shall edit my post, inshaallah.

 

[lolwatever]

No she's telling my point of the "debate" was wrong. I wasn't debating what men are wearing, I was asking a question. If it had been said that they are an exception then there would have been a case for debate.

I don't have enough time to submit papers to councillors but what I would say is that the reason, if true, that rape has falling in the middle east is due to the punishments. We here don't have capital punishment unfortunately. Over there, the thought of being stoned to death, beheaded whatever would be what would deter them. I have though, heard of many muslim women being raped in the middle east.

I can't reply to everyone's post. There's too many.

Ok since you don't have time... i wrote up a template you can use to submit to them:

Dear Rape Councellors,

I have come to the conclusion that a woman revealing her body (including private parts) is much less prone to be raped compared to a woman who is fully covered.

This is because, the more a woman uncovers herself, the less appealing she becomes to the opposite sex.

The evidence for this is, that when companies advertise products with women wearing Niqab, consumers are far more attracted to these advertisements compared to advertising the same product with a bikini-wearing woman. For I believe Bikini-wearing women are indeed much less attractive to most men.

Having noted this, i think there is no harm at all in promoting women wearing barely any clothing since this has absolutely no effect in stimulating negative sexual related thoughts in men.

Yours Truly,
England.


what you think ?

 

[FollowingAlhuda]

ZZZooooooooooooooom. kay:
Are muslim women able to go swimming or is that prohibited due to the exposure of their flesh.

P.s women like to have tans, they don't want to be protected from the sun. I've heard 15 mins in the sun is good for you as vitamin D made in the skin in response to ultraviolet B radiation may protect against certain diseases, including cancer of the breast, colon and prostate.

That is Vitamin E!

And not every woman whant to have a tan!

You know i'm a woman that covers herself all up. But i have to tell you WHY are people in the summer searching for a shadow??? That's the same thing with our dresses, their like shadows for us. Offcourse we sweat al little bit!! But also the woman that are whearing a bikini!.

Something else. In the winter it is very COLD. I see woman wearing only panties and a small skirt! Hmmmm isn't that cold?!!! But whatever i wont talk about them, because they can do whatever they want. Just like us. Espessialy when it benefits us!

Think twice first!

 

[England]

Sorry I didn't mean to imply that you were debating, it is just that some of the things you said are offensive to Muslims. Also your tone is a bit rough, maybe if you softened it up a bit it would sound less like your trying to argue.



Beards don't make men ugly!



I'm not quite sure what you mean here.

Perhaps I was being a little defensive. I shall edit my post, inshaallah.

I apologise if it sounded a bit rough, perhaps my conscience mind expects it to turn into an argument although it isn't intended. From the cyber world I'm one of the nicest guys you could meet, do many deeds and even smile which would probably surprise a few of you here kay:

Ok since you don't have time... i wrote up a template you can use to submit to them:

Dear Rape Councellors,

I have come to the conclusion that a woman revealing her body (including private parts) is much less prone to be raped compared to a woman who is fully covered.

This is because, the more a woman uncovers herself, the less appealing she becomes to the opposite sex.

The evidence for this is, that when companies advertise products with women wearing Niqab, consumers are far more attracted to these advertisements compared to advertising the same product with a bikini-wearing woman. For I believe Bikini-wearing women are indeed much less attractive to most men.

Having noted this, i think there is no harm at all in promoting women wearing barely any clothing since this has absolutely no effect in stimulating negative sexual related thoughts in men.

Yours Truly,
England.


what you think ?

Come on admit it, that's overly exaggerated :giggling:

 

[lolwatever]

Come on admit it, that's overly exaggerated :giggling:

well, that's pretty much what you're claiming innit :uuh:

ur saying that someoen wearing bikinis and someone fully covered doesnt change their potential to be raped! ffended:

 

[England]

well, that's pretty much what you're claiming innit :uuh:

ur saying that someoen wearing bikinis and someone fully covered doesnt change their potential to be raped! ffended:

Showing their bits off? I've not said anything about that being ok lol and I'm talking about about women that walk down to the shops to buy a paper or whatever. I'm not referring to women at the beaches because the chances of getting raped on a beach is slim with all the people around.

 

[England]

That is Vitamin E!

And not every woman whant to have a tan!

You know i'm a woman that covers herself all up. But i have to tell you WHY are people in the summer searching for a shadow??? That's the same thing with our dresses, their like shadows for us. Offcourse we sweat al little bit!! But also the woman that are whearing a bikini!.

Something else. In the winter it is very COLD. I see woman wearing only panties and a small skirt! Hmmmm isn't that cold?!!! But whatever i wont talk about them, because they can do whatever they want. Just like us. Espessialy when it benefits us!

Think twice first!

You will also see alot of people spending hours in the sun but once they've had enough they will retreat to a shadow. Women that wear small skirts and knickers are the type of gals that are looking for one night stands, not all gals do that. A couple I went with on Thursday night were wearing jeans and a long sleeved top.

 

[lolwatever]

Showing their bits off? I've not said anything about that being ok lol and I'm talking about about women that walk down to the shops to buy a paper or whatever. I'm not referring to women at the beaches because the chances of getting raped on a beach is slim with all the people around.

wats the diff between "showing their bits off" and "almost showing them" ffended:

n who cares if its at the beach or on the street, point is it gets ideas clicking in sick minded people, and once they set a target, who says he won't suss her out 2 somewhere where no1 can see :uuh:

ur thoughts are totally contradictory to simple logic...

 

[FollowingAlhuda]

You will also see alot of people spending hours in the sun but once they've had enough they will retreat to a shadow. Women that wear small skirts and knickers are the type of gals that are looking for one night stands, not all gals do that. A couple I went with on Thursday night were wearing jeans and a long sleeved top.

Yess i understand. But no Muslim says something about these galls. If a woman want to dress something like that she can! But she has to know here consequences..

But my religion doesn't support that. If you see what kind of respect i get from my Muslim brothers! (others do not even see me, ore hate the way i wear) It is beutifull!!! 2 years ago when i didn't practise my faith and did not cover it all up, i wasn't respected like now! You can see the diffrence.

But everybody has his one point of view. I say the Islamic is the best..spirtuall , sciantificall, logicall etc etc

 

[England]

There are consequences for everything. I myself would choose a gal with self-dignity, not looking "for it" and with some respect over a gal that wears a short skirt, plastered full of makeup, with a message saying "I want some." But I do not think it's wrong to dress that way or that it's right. You could get "spat at on the train for dressing as a muslim," you could get people giving you abuse for dressing in a veil, murdered and intimidated etc.

I'm off out, so if there's a post that needs a reply I'll reply perhaps tonight.

Take care

 

[FollowingAlhuda]

You could get "spat at on the train for dressing as a muslim," you could get people giving you abuse for dressing in a veil, murdered and intimidated etc.

Take care

Yes, but i'm not searching for that. They hate me becauze i'm a muslim. Because in what i believe. I do not have problems with that. I even feel good bcz of a Hadith of our Prophet Muhammad (May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) he says:

"Islam began as something strange, and it shall return to being something strange, so give glad tidings to the strangers."

I will not behave the same way non Muslim behave towards me. I will behave witch dignity and respect, in order them to respect me.
If there are people that have a problem with Islaam then only it's their problem. The are more and more Muslims. Many people are entering Islaam. Wal Hamdolilah. Islam is because of that the fastest growing religion in the World!!!

Wonder how that could be???

 

[Pk_#2]

There are consequences for everything. I myself would choose a gal with self-dignity, not looking "for it" and with some respect over a gal that wears a short skirt, plastered full of makeup, with a message saying "I want some." But I do not think it's wrong to dress that way or that it's right. You could get "spat at on the train for dressing as a muslim," you could get people giving you abuse for dressing in a veil, murdered and intimidated etc.

I'm off out, so if there's a post that needs a reply I'll reply perhaps tonight.

Take care

Hello

Mr.Pagan, England geezah...(You dun have a name yet)

What you mean? ^^

You will also a get a great deal of good, being a Muslim and dressing approprietely, But you won't understand, 'cause your too far back now :uuh:

 

[lolwatever]

There are consequences for everything. I myself would choose a gal with self-dignity, not looking "for it" and with some respect over a gal that wears a short skirt, plastered full of makeup, with a message saying "I want some." But I do not think it's wrong to dress that way or that it's right. You could get "spat at on the train for dressing as a muslim," you could get people giving you abuse for dressing in a veil, murdered and intimidated etc.

I'm off out, so if there's a post that needs a reply I'll reply perhaps tonight.

Take care

looks like you've answered your own questions.

Getting spat at is due to the Islamophobia present, 10 years ago things like that where ever so unlikely. So it's obvious that if it wasn't for that, someone properly covered in hijab is (and even with the low risk of being spat at, still is) in a much safer condition than someone bouncing around in bikinis as far as sexual assault is concerned.

take care all the best

 

[England]

Hello

Mr.Pagan, England geezah...(You dun have a name yet)

What you mean? ^^

You will also a get a great deal of good, being a Muslim and dressing approprietely, But you won't understand, 'cause your too far back now :uuh:

What is that meant to mean? You think that because I'm non-muslim people disrespect me, look at me like dirt etc? Think again :giggling: I'm happy with the way I am, I'm happy with the way I'm treated and I will always be me. I love my way of life, I needn't be a slave of anyone, I know God's happy with me.

 

[lolwatever]

What is that meant to mean? You think that because I'm non-muslim people disrespect me, look at me like dirt etc? Think again :giggling: I'm happy with the way I am, I'm happy with the way I'm treated and I will always be me. I love my way of life, I needn't be a slave of anyone, I know God's happy with me.

you're avoiding the topic England........

 

[lolwatever]

ok back to topic pleease :uhwhat

i think the piont has been made...someone semi-naked is obviously at a much higher risk than someone who isn't.

 

[England]

ok but am just stating the facts did i touch your nerve? am SORRY :statisfie

With all due respect you have not stated any facts. You have stated something incorrect and then stated your opinion which does not apply to me. The butler obeys his boss just like you obey yours.

ok back to topic pleease :uhwhat

i think the piont has been made...someone semi-naked is obviously at a much higher risk than someone who isn't.

Let them dress as they please. It's not for us to say what they should or shouldn't wear. What are the chances of getting raped on a beach full of people.

 

[lolwatever]

Let them dress as they please. It's not for us to say what they should or shouldn't wear. What are the chances of getting raped on a beach full of people.

The chances are there and very possible, doesn't the statistic that there's a sexual assault every 90 seconds in the US make anything click in your mind :skeleton: (UN, 1998)

Just coz its in your interest to see women half naked doesn't mean it's in their interest as well.