Biological Evolution – An Islamic Perspective

[Ali_Cena]

Gator, this thread is about discussing things not "copy, paste" websites that say "why evolution is correct", if you want i could start uploading why creation is right websites like harun yahya, or what ever, and not discuss anything, thats what you are doing, if you come here bring up some points and we start discussing like Abdul Fattah said.:coolious::coolalien:zip:

 

[جوري]

Account disabling still not working?

What I reckon is that among the thousands of fossils, not one, not a single chunk, was shown super sized. Did you deduce that all remnants dating back thousands, hundreds of thousands and millions of years are all irrelevant because the true and gigantic human fossils are supernaturally hidden from biologists?

Adam, if he existed, is more likely to have been created not too long ago if many of the early commentaries on prophets are taken into account. If a Muslim can believe that Adam was 100 feet tall notwithstanding the lack of evidence, he can equally believe that humans emerged a few thousand years in the past, because I simply see no difference between the two absurdities.

I can do without your comedic style writing.. perhaps it makes you popular with the ladies, but I doubt it will get you far on this forum. as well your exponential numbers which seem to double with every post!

my reply to you is on the other thread. I so hate to repeat myself!

cheers

 

[Gator]

Gator, this thread is about discussing things...

Hey Ali, I like to think of this thread as not just addressing evolution in its entirety, but also, the interesting bits of evidence put forward by scientists to get an islamic response or from anyone interested in evolution (pro or con). I've been posting and there hasn't been much in the way of responses, so therefore the lack of discussion.

I'd be happy to politely discuss with you or almost anyone. Abdul was a good guy to discuss things with and so was MustafaMc.

Anyway, just wanted to see the Islamic perspective.

Thanks.

 

[Hamayun]

Are Gator and Indigator related?

 

[Retards]

Evolution is true, any other theory is false. Because science proved it.

 

[doorster]

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What I reckon is that among the thousands of fossils, not one, not a single chunk, was shown super sized. Did you deduce that all remnants dating back thousands, hundreds of thousands and millions of years are all irrelevant because the true and gigantic human fossils are supernaturally hidden from biologists?

Adam, if he existed, is more likely to have been created not too long ago if many of the early commentaries on prophets are taken into account. If a Muslim can believe that Adam was 100 feet tall notwithstanding the lack of evidence, he can equally believe that humans emerged a few thousand years in the past, because I simply see no difference between the two absurdities.

Account disabling still not working?

I do not think that these owners/bosses are interested in that as long as you keep the site alive you can have 10 accounts and post all manner of rubbish, just remember not to annoy anyone of them in private or there will be hell to pay

now, carry on as you were

 

[lomah]

Hello....

In the Bible the Old and New Testiment there are Geneological records that show the ansestors form Adam to King David and in the New Testiment from Adam to Jesus. It is the very first Chapter of Mathew. I seems that this would make for a pretty acurate time line.

I am humbly stating this just for information.

I personal as a Christian don't think any of the Bible to be Myth except for the Parables that Jesus use to help explain things to his followers. I believe the Bible to be the Words from God. I believe that Muslims feel the same way about the Qu'an.

There is proof of adaptation but, I don't feel adaptation it proof for Evolution.

Lomah

^o)

 

[Ali_Cena]

Evolution is true, any other theory is false. Because science proved it.

Proved it how?

 

[Ali_Cena]

Evolution is true, any other theory is false. Because science proved it.

By the way, what other theory?

 

[czgibson]

Greeting Ali_Cena,

I'm not sure it's worthwhile taking "Retards" seriously. He / she is clearly not interested in having a genuine discussion.

Peace

 

[lomah]

Hey, must people be provoct to spark conversation here?:thankyou?

 

[جوري]

Hey, must people be provoct to spark conversation here?:thankyou?

What would you like? genealogical accuracy according to the bible? It really wouldn't fit on this thread as so it reads on the title Biological Evolution – An Islamic Perspective

all the best

 

[lomah]

Even if you looked at the Bible as a source of History It shows a good time line when Adam and Eve first came on the seen. I do not have an Islamic persective yet. I am still looking for some one humble enough that would talk to a Fundimental Christian.

May Allah bless you....

 

[جوري]

Even if you looked at the Bible as a source of History It shows a good time line when Adam and Eve first came on the seen. I do not have an Islamic persective yet. I am still looking for some one humble enough that would talk to a Fundimental Christian.

May Allah bless you....

If you'll browse the very first page of this very thread you'll have received the Islamic perspective, there is no time line for when Adam & Eve descended to earth. I don't view the bible as an accurate source of history, considering all the internal contradictions and I am pretty sure you'd rather be spared a rather large cut and paste. The bibles don't agree with one another let alone in concert with science and nature or the nature of the divine. It is actually for those very reasons separation of church and state eventually took the west out of its dark ages. I really don't know how many would like to re-visit them..

If you cause enough ruckus I am sure you'll catch the attention of someone humble as well knowledgeable :thankyou:

all the best

 

[lomah]

Gossamer skye,

Hello again, I just had a quick question. Does the Qu'an teach that you should be at all times ready to lead people who are not muslim to you your Faith?

I am merly a christian man seeking to find out the truth about Islam. I have read a lot on the site and I am begining to enjoy the wisdom in you faith.

I feel even as a christian that I could be close to believing the Allah is the one true God and that the story of Muhammad and his actions are truly of a prophet.

I think it would be more benificial to the cause of your faith if you could be more diplomatic. You critise a book that I hold deer to my heart also and I have been through it several times.

I am man that prays that all of Islam and the people of your nation get to Paradise. These aren't just words I am telling you. God knows I have done this.

I am here seeking after eternal matters not to partake in a good debate. I guess I stubled into the wrong area.

May all the peace and blessing of heaven be given unto you....

Lomah

 

[جوري]

Gossamer skye,

Hello again, I just had a quick question. Does the Qu'an teach that you should be at all times ready to lead people who are not muslim to you your Faith?

The Quran teaches many things, but compulsion in religion isn't one of them No!

I am merly a christian man seeking to find out the truth about Islam. I have read a lot on the site and I am begining to enjoy the wisdom in you faith.

Ok

I feel even as a christian that I could be close to believing the Allah is the one true God and that the story of Muhammad and his actions are truly of a prophet.

Ok

I think it would be more benificial to the cause of your faith if you could be more diplomatic. You critise a book that I hold deer to my heart also and I have been through it several times.

Diplomacy doesn't denote that I should be a hypocrite simply to spare your feelings.
1- Believe me when I tell you, I don't care to convert anyone, I'd rather we have better Muslims than more Muslims.
2- The cause of my religion isn't to malinger and ambush.. the journey to God is a solo one.

I am man that prays that all of Islam and the people of your nation get to Paradise. These aren't just words I am telling you. God knows I have done this.

That is nice indeed

I am here seeking after eternal matters not to partake in a good debate. I guess I stubled into the wrong area.

It does seem odd that you wish to get into a religious debate on a thread about biological evolution yes..

May all the peace and blessing of heaven be given unto you....

Lomah

and to you

Peace

 

[lomah]

I like the way you explain yourselve in this forum. You are very clear.

What does the Qu'an say about the will of Allah as far as bringing people to the faith of Islam.

I don't understand what good is it to be a "Great Muslim" if you can't bring un-believers to Allah?

Lomah

 

[جوري]

There are levels of religiosity.
Islam, Iman, ikhlas, i7san..
our main purpose is to worship Allah swt. A few people offer 'da3wa' but a da3wa is only good is the other party has a sincere will to learn.. chapter II of the Quran does tell you, that there is no compulsion in religion.

I as a person haven't chosen to give da3wa (invitation to Islam) to others.. other Muslims might want to, again your worth as a person in the eyes of God isn't by the number of converts.. as each soul is held responsible for his/her own deeds, that isn't to say that there isn't a great reward if in fact you should invite someone to Islam and they with an open heart accept it...

all the best

 

[lomah]

Well,
You have help along my way to understanig this a little better. I am going to look all these words up and go from there.

Thank you for all you help!

 

[doorster]

Well,
You have help along my way to understanig this a little better. I am going to look all these words up and go from there.

Thank you for all you help!

Islam: submission
Iman: faith
ikhlas: Fidelity; sincerity, faithfulness to one's duties; accuracy, or exact correspondence to some given quality or fact; loyalty
ihsan: perfection, excellence, goodness