Birmingham hospitals ban Niqab

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Zulkiflim said:
Salaam,

It is simple..

Some solution.

There is a hospital for women and men.

If that is not viable then surely all muslim women should abandon the Niqab,then after a while there iwll be complaint that the Hijab is restrictive to a conducive society for the westerner,old and frail are fearful of people who wear the Hijab.

Then the Hijab should then be abolished.

Then there will be a time when the westerner will say,isnt it hyprocrisy that you say you need not wear the veil at OUR COMMAND in hospital and what not.
But wear it in public places?

Are the men in th hospitals you meet NOT STRANGERS?

It is said that even during the time of war in Jahiliah,the Prophet and OCmpanian during the fasting month fought,but even when weakened from the physical extremities,they did not break fast nor did they forget the prayer.

And now for muslim to do good to the public to teach and to aid the public,we have to be like them.

This is not a muslim problem it is an acceptance issue.

The west already view all muslim as terrorist,that is why.
They are not willing to accomodote muslim lifestyle,we have accomodated to theirs.
Should we have churched in Masjids?
Should we have alchohol beverages sold in Hallal stores?

Oh moderate muslim how far will go astray?
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Will you please stop saying 'moderate Muslim'? I'm actually finding it quite annoying now. Really. Who are any of us to label each other? You're either Muslim or you're not - if you said the shahadah, you're Muslim, so please, stop this judgemental attitude as quite frankly it is not constructive and is quite possibly offensive.

If you read my post, you will see that I agree with removing the veil (not the headscarf) in this particular context. Outside in everyday life, women should be free to wear veils if they wish, despite the disapproval of certain sections of society.
 
Muezzin said:
Will you please stop saying 'moderate Muslim'? I'm actually finding it quite annoying now. Really. Who are any of us to label each other? You're either Muslim or you're not - if you said the shahadah, you're Muslim, so please, stop this judgemental attitude as quite frankly it is not constructive and is quite possibly offensive.

If you read my post, you will see that I agree with removing the veil (not the headscarf) in this particular context. Outside in everyday life, women should be free to wear veils if they wish, despite the disapproval of certain sections of society.
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Salaam,

Pls go here for more detail of what moderate muslim,and who coined them.

And there are many muslim whom are proud to call themselves moderate muslim.

Hirsi Ali and of course the alway famous Author of the Satanic Verse,,cant remember his name

http://www.islamicboard.com/basics-islam/30024-what-s-moderate-muslim.html?highlight=moderate+muslim


And i agree,muslim are people who recite the shahadah,they are muslim.
 
And there are many muslim whom are proud to call themselves moderate muslim.
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And what would you label yourself to be? Obviously you hate people who call themselves "moderate" and do not involve themselves in the politicial aspects of Islam. So does that make you someone who believe in political Islam, a basic tool of people to control the minds of those who have great faith.
 
Joe98 said:
I think I'll migrate to Saudi Arabia and dress as I want

The problem is they will never be happy till I become like them !
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That statement is fallacious as it assumes all women who wear the niqab are immigrants. They are not all immigrants. Many were born here, in Britain. Why should they change their practice because some people feel 'uncomfortable'? Does democracy not allow us to dress as we wish, so long as it is within the law?
 
lavikor201 said:
And what would you label yourself to be? Obviously you hate people who call themselves "moderate" and do not involve themselves in the politicial aspects of Islam. So does that make you someone who believe in political Islam, a basic tool of people to control the minds of those who have great faith.
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Salaam,

I am a muslim.

I do not hate them who call themselves moderate,i pity them for they are falling into darkness and think it is light.

Islam is life,it encompasses botht he secular and reliogus world.

The Prophet Muhammad saw ruled and was the head of the religon.
He made treatise and taught about worship.
 

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