Blair: "Immigrants duty to integrate"

[Woodrow]

So in a democratic, free, country, people are forced to go to fight for the country and risk their lifes even if they dont agree with it, they just 'have to do their job'.

Hmm.

Do you recall a case in which a sikh boy, quiet old, wanted to carry a little dagger thing to school around his neck as part of his religion?

I think the veil nor an empty class room can compare to that.

So in a democratic, free, country, people are forced to go to fight for the country and risk their lifes even if they dont agree with it, they just 'have to do their job'.

If the person is a citizen that is true. But, not always. At the moment the US has an all volunteer military. However if congress declares a state of war the draft will be reinstated and then all citizens between the ages of 18-35 can be called up for military duty. the draft can also be reinstated by congress if it is felt it is too small for defense.

 

[Umar001]

No offense, he has a point there. If muslim women wants to practise their religion like that, in that manner, then they should migrate back to their parent's homeland or to a muslim country. It is an Christian country. This is the part that annoys me the most; why are you muslims trying to be so practising your religion in a Christian land, but not in a Islamic land? Like that veil issue, covering everything up.

p.s Glad to be a Canadian Muslim

Wa Aleykum Salam

'he has a point there' are you talking to me sayin someone else has a point or just talking generally saying I have a point? lol am confused.

As for the underlined bit, I think that some Muslim feel that since the law is there they can use it, i.e. discrimination law and so on, it annoys me to in some ways but Alhamdulilah they are my brothers and sisters and just going through the law system.

 

[KAding]

It's about Jihad bro, he's masking what he means, he's blatently on about people who have Qitaal on their minds, they're worried it might spread.

Thats obvious. He doesn't want UK citizens to be treasonous and fight the UK, either at 'home' or abroad. You talk as if this is some kind of evil hidden agenda, lol. It's simply a matter of loyalty.

But then again, these issues surrounding immigration, especially Muslim immigration, are fiercely debated everywhere in Europe, also in those countries that are not really targets in this jihad. It's a reaction to the massive influx of Muslim immigrants in the last few decades. 'Jihad' is only part of it. I think the 'common people' are more distressed because they don't recognize their own neighborhoods anymore.

 

[FBI]

No offense, he has a point there. If muslim women wants to practise their religion like that, in that manner, then they should migrate back to their parent's homeland or to a muslim country. It is an Christian country. This is the part that annoys me the most; why are you muslims trying to be so practising your religion in a Christian land, but not in a Islamic land? Like that veil issue, covering everything up.

p.s Glad to be a Canadian Muslim

But the uk isn't a Christian country.

 

[Malaikah]

Such as "a separate classroom" for muslims to pray in whilst at school.

What is so bad about that? This is a requirment for us. We have to pray five times a day and one of those times happens to be during school. It would be just pointless to ban this, it makes no sense.

Anyway, take it away and I hope the kids will take over the playground and pray their instead. Kinda backfires doesnt? :?

 

[Keltoi]

Thats obvious. He doesn't want UK citizens to be treasonous and fight the UK, either at 'home' or abroad. You talk as if this is some kind of evil hidden agenda, lol. It's simply a matter of loyalty.

But then again, these issues surrounding immigration, especially Muslim immigration, are fiercely debated everywhere in Europe, also in those countries that are not really targets in this jihad. It's a reaction to the massive influx of Muslim immigrants in the last few decades. 'Jihad' is only part of it. I think the 'common people' are more distressed because they don't recognize their own neighborhoods anymore.

I agree with this. Alot of this is simply adjusting to this community that doesn't seem to integrate as others in the past have done. Being a Muslim doesn't give you the right to preach violence(as Hamza), or give you the right to go fight "jihad" and then come back. KAding brought up the issue of normal people feeling uncomfortable because they don't recognize their neighborhoods and in some cases their cities anymore. That isn't racism or Islamophobia. Similar feelings occurred in the U.S. when Irish and Italian people would return to their neighborhoods and find that it was now a Puerto Rican neighborhood.