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[Woodrow]

Yes i understand what you’re saying, but what if we don’t do anything than they nuke us? that would mean 100s of millions of Muslims dead rather than 1000s from the fallout (or using a mini nuke... Israel very small anyway)

lets hope it doesn’t come to that though

I can not think of a single target far enough from Israel for Israel to use a nuke and not destroy themselves.

Mini-nuke is sort of a oxymoron. The smallest ones ever detonated were the ones used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Deaths are still occuring from them and quite far from Japan.

A nuke is not healthy for anybody, even if we think we are far enough away to escape the fallout. The fallout from Nagasaki and Hiroshimo even landed in Canada and some of the Northern United States. It is hard to know exactly how many cancer cases were and are the result from them.

 

[Looking4Peace]

yea all nukes should be destroyed and people should fight wars like in the old days if fighting at all, not that i believe in war, but i mean all this technology in a way made war impersonal meaning i dont know if and who i killed so im not respsonbile vs the old days u knew damn well u if killed someone and had to go through the feelings.

 

[Wild Bill]

ok wild bill but its ok that over 500 lebanese are dead most are women and children, hey war is not fair as many members muslim and non muslim alike have said on here but dont go throwing the word terrorist around thats pretty lame and old by now

What are you talking about Alf? I never said it was ok for anybody to be dead! Lebanese, chinese or other! I dont want anybody getting killed, war sucks. There is some clown saying that "we" (who's "we"?) should nuke Israel and your gonna give me a hard time about saying terrorist?! Well Ill say it again, TERRORIST. There. What do you think of that? That guy earlier that said "we" should nuke Israel is a terrorist in the making.
There are lots of kids and families in Israel, why do you defend a guy that wants to nuke them?

 

[Looking4Peace]

read up i dont like nukes missles or anything, but just dont go saying muslims are terrorist cause one person says something stupid, stick around a bit on this forum and u will see many stupid, irrational comments from all religions alike

 

[searchingsoul]

yea all nukes should be destroyed and people should fight wars like in the old days if fighting at all, not that i believe in war, but i mean all this technology in a way made war impersonal meaning i dont know if and who i killed so im not respsonbile vs the old days u knew damn well u if killed someone and had to go through the feelings.

They still have to deal with the feelings when they clean up the dead bodies, or see pictures of it.

 

[Wild Bill]

read up i dont like nukes missles or anything, but just dont go saying muslims are terrorist cause one person says something stupid, stick around a bit on this forum and u will see many stupid, irrational comments from all religions alike

you got to admit its a bad start for me when right away some guy is saying he wants to nuke Israel and then it seems like you are defending him. (Are you?)

 

[Looking4Peace]

nope, i guess u dont know me too well , i never defend murder unless in direct self defense and again i dont believe in nukes, i think its cowardly

 

[Woodrow]

you got to admit its a bad start for me when right away some guy is saying he wants to nuke Israel and then it seems like you are defending him. (Are you?)

We will defend his right to state his opinion. Just as we will defend your right to state yours. The FAQ section up top states specificaly what will not be tolerated.

We do not always agree with each other, but hopefully we all can disagree with respect and dignity.

 

[Wild Bill]

We will defend his right to state his opinion. Just as we will defend your right to state yours. The FAQ section up top states specificaly what will not be tolerated.

We do not always agree with each other, but hopefully we all can disagree with respect and dignity.

So you are perfectly ok with him saying that Israel should be nuked? (Or at least the right to say it)

 

[Woodrow]

So you are perfectly ok with him saying that Israel should be nuked? (Or at least the right to say it)

I disagree completly with his statement. I support all who refute his statement.

But, unless his statement is violating any set down forum rules I stand by his right to say it. I also support anyones right to disagree with my statements.

Debates will occur here. In order for a debate to be fair, a person can not have fear of expressing their own opinions. The only issues that will not be tolerated are covered in the forum rules.

 

[Wahid]

What kind of whack job forum did I join!? Are you seriously talking about nuking Israel?! And kill millions of innocents?! I was told by muslims that muslims are not terrorists, and now I see on this forum you talking about nuking people?! Your cracked! Seriously, get help. You need it.

Ask ur isrealy freind there that first said isreal should nuke all the Middle east if it loses in a war. ur blind enough not to have noticed that my post was in reply to that and also what it meant was that if isreal wanted to use nukes on us, we should defend our selfs

 

[Wahid]

you got to admit its a bad start for me when right away some guy is saying he wants to nuke Israel and then it seems like you are defending him. (Are you?)

can you read? i said if isreal wanted to nuke US FIRST we should attack them not just nuke them with no porpuse. what an idiot

 

[Wild Bill]

I disagree completly with his statement. I support all who refute his statement.

But, unless his statement is violating any set down forum rules I stand by his right to say it. I also support anyones right to disagree with my statements.

Debates will occur here. In order for a debate to be fair, a person can not have fear of expressing their own opinions. The only issues that will not be tolerated are covered in the forum rules.

Thanks for pointing me to the forum rules, I read them now and know what is accepted and what is not.
On that note, and further to our discussion about the nuking Israel comment, it is clear to me that the "we should nuke Israel" comment is in direct violation of rule #20.

20. No praise of, condoning of, or calls for violence or other unislamic behaviour will be tolerated whatsoever on the forum. This includes inciting and glorifying combat under the pretense of Jihad. The scholars are to be relied upon in such issues.

It is both condoning and calling for violence. It doesn't get any more violent than a nuclear bomb.

 

[Wahid]

Thanks for pointing me to the forum rules, I read them now and know what is accepted and what is not.
On that note, and further to our discussion about the nuking Israel comment, it is clear to me that the "we should nuke Israel" comment is in direct violation of rule #20.
It is both condoning and calling for violence. It doesn't get any more violent than a nuclear bomb.

i assure you self defence is islamic.
heh

 

[Wild Bill]

can you read? i said if isreal wanted to nuke US FIRST we should attack them not just nuke them with no porpuse. what an idiot

9. Beef will not be tolerated in any forum. Differences in opinion are expected, but please debate respectfully. (Beef are comments made for the purpose of insulting somebody else with negative intent, looking for a negative reaction, or blatantly insulting somebody)

You might have noticed that Woodrow had said that he did not agree with your statement, is he an idiot also?

 

[Woodrow]

Thanks for pointing me to the forum rules, I read them now and know what is accepted and what is not.
On that note, and further to our discussion about the nuking Israel comment, it is clear to me that the "we should nuke Israel" comment is in direct violation of rule #20.
It is both condoning and calling for violence. It doesn't get any more violent than a nuclear bomb.

I do agree with you. However, to understand what was said a person needs to go to the original statement, which is:

thats y pakistan should come at our side and nuke isreal preemtivly if isreal considers nuking anybody.hopfully soon musharf will be deposed inshaAllah

On a personal basis I do not believe a Nuke should be used under any condition.

The statement was not advocating aggression, it is advocating self defence. Perhaps, the words could have been toned down. In good conscious I can not consider this statement as promoting violence or aggression. The obvious intent is to advocate self defence if attacked.

 

[Wild Bill]

I do agree with you. However, to understand what was said a person needs to go to the original statement, which is:


On a personal basis I do not believe a Nuke should be used under any condition.

The statement was not advocating aggression, it is advocating self defence. Perhaps, the words could have been toned down. In good conscious I can not consider this statement as promoting violence or aggression. The obvious intent is to advocate self defence if attacked.

I see now. I need to get this forum thing down, read back in the forum and see what was said first. ok. Wow, though. Rough neighborhood on the newbies, guy calls me an idiot in the first hour. I thought you religious people are suposed to be understanding? I just got here. Cant even give me the first hour to learn the ropes? This forum was a mistake. Nice meeting you Woodrow.

 

[Woodrow]

I see now. I need to get this forum thing down, read back in the forum and see what was said first. ok. Wow, though. Rough neighborhood on the newbies, guy calls me an idiot in the first hour. I thought you religious people are suposed to be understanding? I just got here. Cant even give me the first hour to learn the ropes? This forum was a mistake. Nice meeting you Woodrow.

Wild Bill sit back, relax have a cup of tea. We really don't bite. I apologise if I scared you. It really is a pleasure to have you here and we really are interested in your views. We are simply a group of day-to-day Muslims. We do not consider ourselves to be religious experts. Some here have been Muslim since birth and some like myself are recent newcomers to Islam and came here to learn.

 

[searchingsoul]

Wild Bill sit back, relax have a cup of tea. We really don't bite. I apologise if I scared you. It really is a pleasure to have you here and we really are interested in your views. We are simply a group of day-to-day Muslims. We do not consider ourselves to be religious experts. Some here have been Muslim since birth and some like myself are recent newcomers to Islam and came here to learn.

Please don't leave us so soon! A lot of people hate me but I stick around. There's a lot to learn!

 

[Wahid]

9. Beef will not be tolerated in any forum. Differences in opinion are expected, but please debate respectfully. (Beef are comments made for the purpose of insulting somebody else with negative intent, looking for a negative reaction, or blatantly insulting somebody)

You might have noticed that Woodrow had said that he did not agree with your statement, is he an idiot also?

than you should have been banned long ago i guess

What kind of whack job forum did I join!? Are you seriously talking about nuking Israel?! And kill millions of innocents?! I was told by muslims that muslims are not terrorists, and now I see on this forum you talking about nuking people?! Your cracked! Seriously, get help. You need it.

What kind of whack job forum did I join!? Are you seriously talking about nuking Israel?! And kill millions of innocents?! I was told by muslims that muslims are not terrorists, and now I see on this forum you talking about nuking people?! Your cracked! Seriously, get help. You need it.

What are you talking about Alf? I never said it was ok for anybody to be dead! Lebanese, chinese or other! I dont want anybody getting killed, war sucks. There is some clown saying that "we" (who's "we"?) should nuke Israel and your gonna give me a hard time about saying terrorist?! Well Ill say it again, TERRORIST. There. What do you think of that? That guy earlier that said "we" should nuke Israel is a terrorist in the making.
There are lots of kids and families in Israel, why do you defend a guy that wants to nuke them?

Why is this guy free to keep insulting people and then he complains if someone talks back at him? :?

see my example of self defence here, it perfectly fits this dude, they can attack but when you hit back its unjust or whatever else :giggling: