Bush: Pathological liar or idiot-in-chief?
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Do we know what habeas Corpus is? Because the MCA basically wipes that out.
It does say an ALIEN but in the terms its used it can be used against anyone who is considered an enemy of the government.
If you have proof that habeas corpus hasn't been suspended please enlighten us.
It does say an ALIEN but in the terms its used it can be used against anyone who is considered an enemy of the government.
If you have proof that habeas corpus hasn't been suspended please enlighten us.
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In 2007 a federal appeals court ruled that Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri, a legal U.S. citizen, could not be held indefinitely without charge. The court, 4th Circuit Court of Appeals, ruled that the President of the United States lacked the legal authority to detain al-Marri without charge and that traditional habeas corpus applied to him as a U.S. citizen. Seems alive and well to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus#United_States
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I realize someone told you that, but, as much fun as it might be, it is simply not true.
The law defines "alien" as someone "who is not a citizen of the United States". How much more clear could that be? It's in plain English.
No, it is your duty to prove it has, as that is the claim you made. You can't expect one to "prove the negative". The law also does not impose catch limits on fishermen or change the size of no-parking zones around fire hydrants either. I can't prove that it doesn't do these things as there is no language that is germane. Similarly, there is no language that Habeas corpus "is not supspended" for citizens. There is no need to say such a thing as it is Constitutionally protected.
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He's a nut-case! I've never been hit with so many blatant lies in one sitting before. Sometime next year, I hope to make public the report I sent out to all the politicians and humanitarian groups here - I call it "The Twenty Seven List" which contains the top 27 blatant lies that were told to Americans. That's my best get even!
I cannot believe the number of people who have died over this ********!
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I cannot believe the number of people who have died over this ********!
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He's both... and then some!
I loved that comment (made by, I think it was Chavez - I could be wrong as I have a horrible memory for names) that he leaves a cloud of sulfur when he leaves! Bwahahaha!
I loved that comment (made by, I think it was Chavez - I could be wrong as I have a horrible memory for names) that he leaves a cloud of sulfur when he leaves! Bwahahaha!
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I never said he was. I just found his comment to be quite amusing.
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Yes...isn't that clever..Bush as "El Diablo". Chavez is perhaps the first person in the history of humankind to liken his opponent to "the devil". What brilliance! I'm sure many at the UN were overawed to find such a literary genius springing from the lowly "Indios". He is no less than the Latino Guillermo Shakespeare!
Hugo Chavez is an anti-democratic, tin-pot dictator in the making. Even the other Leftists in South America have grown weary of his self-aggrandizing antics. If it weren't for oil, Venezuela would "that country West of Guyana".
Here is a hilarious clip of King Juan Carlos of Spain running out patience with the self-important Chavez who continues to blabber on. Juan Carlos leans forward and says (unregally) "porque no te calles?".."why don't you shut up?";D
http://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.com/2007/11/king-and-chavez-chaevz-reaching-deep.html
Spaniards thought it was so funny it has become a cellphone ring tone in Spain :giggling:
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Can the sarcasm! I know it's not a new accusation, I just liked the "cloud of sulfur" reference (instead of simply calling him the devil).
I am studying hispanic civilization right now (talking of mainland Spain and America, pre and post colonialism), so I know Mr. Chavez isn't a great (or even mediocre) example of a human being. Anyway, I am not here to get into a huge political debate, just making it clear that just because I find what he said funny doesn't mean I think the guy is good or that he should be the head of a country (or the head of anything for that matter).
I'll make sure to check this out when I get home - maybe I'll have something else to laugh at. :smile:
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Fair enough..though your original comment can hardly be said to be free of political meaning :smile:
The Juan Carlos clip is funny.
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I don't like Bush, and I certainly am not going to hide it. He's to blame for the deaths of many. I just hope to God that my cousin comes home from his 1+ year tour in Afghanistan alive and not in a pine box.
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I don't like Bush, and I certainly am not going to hide it. He's to blame for the deaths of many. I just hope to God that my cousin comes home from his 1+ year tour in Afghanistan alive and not in a pine box.
Here is wishing your cousin well. Let us also remember those Americans killed in Al Quaeda follow-up attacks to 9-11 in the US.....oh wait....there aren't any, are there?
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