Business man pays off niqab fines

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The thing with the French government there is that they only apply their secular laws to Muslims, and they are taking it too far. You don't hear news stories about Christian girls being sent home because they were wearing a cross necklace. Instead, you have Muslim girls in high school, who can't wear their hijab, but still choose to dress correctly either wearing abaya, or a long skirt and long sleeves. There have been instances where the girls have been singled out (sent to the principal's office) and basically interrogated because they were still observing the Muslim dress, but without the hijab. In one particular case, the girl was sent home and asked not to return until she wore "normal" clothes. Other girls have been told that they can't wear long skirts.

So the question is, where will they draw the line? First, they ban "all" religious symbols (which basically just means hijab), then they ban niqab, now they are punishing girls for wearing skirts to school? All of this in the name of "secularism"!

As the man this thread is about put it, it is a dangerous slippery slope to start banning articles of clothing. If they can ban hajib, then why not mini skirts, earings, turbans, black ties, jerseys of other cities' sports teams, whatever suits the current administration's fancy? I'm all for everybody wearing whatever they want, only subject to valid safety and hygiene concerns which may in some places exist regarding head veils and robes (security concern) and nudity (hygiene concern).
 
You don't have to be a lawyer to write wills where you live? You would have to be if you lived in in Canada. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I don't see why non-lawyers shouldn't be able to write wills for people. After all, there are those "do it yourself" will kits around now anyway.

I live in the UK. We have Solicitors, Barristers and Legal Executives, though the differences between the three are narrowing. Yes, I'm aware you don't have to be a lawyer to write wills. However, it is better to get in contact with a solicitor in order for a will to be drafted since they are regulated by the Law Society. Will Writers are not regulated and tend to overcharge their clients, but I did hear that the British government will be doing something about this.

As for those "do it yourself" kits, I would not use them. :skeleton:
 
I wouldn't either (I'm a lawyer in Ontario, Canada). They are really only good for those who have a simple situation and little assets. An ex-wife, property out of the jurisdiction, complicated investments, concerns re probate and fees, all sorts of things are not contemplated in these kits. And really if your life is so simple that a kit will would do, then the default laws would probably do just as well (Succession law reform act in Ontario). I presume they have default laws for estates in the UK too.
 
i bought a v for vendetta mask on ebay and reinforced it with fibreglass and resin - i also cut out the eye-holes and attached some ballistic sunglasses for good measure, you never know - they tear gas and shoot rubber bullets at people these days ...................
if only we could start local groups to turn out in masses with masks on............


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That's a little creepy, but at least it's not a Burger King mask. That dude is uber-creepy, with that child-molester permagrin. If you were to wear a BK mask, I think you and I would tangle.
 
Much as I love both the book and the film of V for Vendetta, what do Guy Fawkes masks have to do with a business man paying ladies' niqab fines?
 
Not much - other than the fact that the thread reminded me of all the people in the movie who came out with masked faces in solidarity and the tyrants stood down.........
 
Now all that remains is for the businessman to close the circle by making up the paid amount via tax evasion ;D
 
As the man this thread is about put it, it is a dangerous slippery slope to start banning articles of clothing. If they can ban hajib, then why not mini skirts, earings, turbans, black ties, jerseys of other cities' sports teams, whatever suits the current administration's fancy? I'm all for everybody wearing whatever they want, only subject to valid safety and hygiene concerns which may in some places exist regarding head veils and robes (security concern) and nudity (hygiene concern).

Exactly. The problem here is that the French don't know where to draw the line, and it is clear that this law is targeting Muslims, not random people wearing face masks in the street. As I mentioned earlier, there were several high school girls expelled from school for wearing dresses that were "too conspicuous" and that they were not allowed to wear jilbeb/abaya (one piece dresses) because they apparently were "religious" items. Here is a video of the girls talking about their experience (note it's in French). So I am all for this guy paying the niqab fines because clearly they have gone too far, and al hamdoulilah this business man is sticking up for the women.



 
Millionaire pledges €1m to pay fines of French Muslim women caught wearing Face Veil

Flamboyant Rachid Nekkaz pledges €1m to pay fines of French Muslim women caught wearing the full veil


BY
Gavin Mortimer


On the eve of tomorrow's Bastille Day celebrations, there is more revolution in the air in France and this time the ringleader is a flamboyant Muslim businessman called Rachid Nekkaz. The 38-year-old property developer is incensed that France has moved one step closer to banning the burka, with women caught wearing the full veil in public liable to a €150 fine and anyone convicted of forcing a woman to cover up facing a fine of up to €30,000 and a year in prison.

The first stage in passing the controversial law was today approved in the National Assembly with members of the Lower House voting overwhelmingly – 335 votes for to one against – to introduce the ban. If the French senators in the Upper House ratify the proposal in September, it will become law by the spring of 2011.

Nekkaz (above), along with the majority of France's five million Muslims, is furious at what he sees as a persecution of his religion, pointing out that fewer than 2,000 French Muslims actually wear the full veil.

He has begun a campaign to fight the law and he's pledged one million euros of his own money to pay the fines of any Muslim convicted. Speaking outside the National Assembly, Nekkaz said: "One million sounds a lot, but to protect one's liberty it's not much, and I hope that others in this country who hold the constitution dear and want to protect our fundamental liberty will join me in fighting this law."

The debonair Nekkaz, a shining example of an integrated, modern French Muslim (he was born in France to Algerian parents), has set up a campaign group called 'Hands off my Constitution', and plans to raise the €1m by selling some of the properties he owns in the Parisian suburbs.

In front of the cameras he wrote a personal cheque for the seven-figure sum before describing the proposed law as 'Anti-Constitutional' and demanding that President Sarkozy shelves the idea.

That seems unlikely. Not only has Sarkozy described the full veil as degrading to women, but it's an issue that has the overwhelming support of his UMP party. Justice Minister Michele Alliot-Marie said last week that wearing the veil "amounted to being cut off from society and rejecting the very spirit of the French republic that is founded on a desire to live together''.

And the likes of Nekkaz haven't been helped in fighting the law by the muddled approach of the opposition Socialist Party. They would like to see a ban restricted to state institutions. But that notion was ridiculed by Alliot-Marie, who said it would be "legally incoherent" and impossible to enforce. "How could we convince the French people that freedom, equality and respect for the dignity of women begins in the train station but stops at the exit?''

The Socialists abstained in today's vote in the Lower House and have said they will adopt a similar stance in September's Senate vote, in which case it seems certain the law will be written into the French Constitution. But the country's police force is bracing itself for a backlash. Security was increased at the National Assembly ahead of today's vote and there are fears of street riots if the bill is passed

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Re: Millionaire pledges €1m to pay fines of French Muslim women caught wearing Face V

Only Allah Knows his intentions but Alhamdulilah this is some relief to the sisters in France. I don't know what life would be like without my niqab :( May Allah grant them strength
 
Re: Millionaire pledges €1m to pay fines of French Muslim women caught wearing Face V

I am a bit confused here. The OP is posted just a short while ago but the article in the post refers to President Sarkozy who is no longer the president of France. Have I missed something along the way?
 
Re: Millionaire pledges €1m to pay fines of French Muslim women caught wearing Face V

The OP is posted just a short while ago but the article in the post refers to President Sarkozy who is no longer the president of France. Have I missed something along the way?

LAST UPDATED AT 19:07 ON Tue 13 Jul 2010
http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/13269/rich-muslim-vows-pay-all-french-burka-fines#ixzz0tmdthh8D


They say, "Oh, poor girl, you're so beautiful you know
It's a shame that you cover up your beauty so."

She just smiles and graciously responds reassuringly,

"This beauty that I have is just a simple part of me.
This body that I have, no stranger has a right to see.
These long clothes, this shawl I wear, ensure my modesty.
Faith is more essential than fashion, wouldn't you agree?"

This hijab,
This mark of piety,
Is an act of faith, a symbol,
For all the world to see.

A simple cloth, to preserve her dignity.
So lift the veil from your heart to see the heart of purity.

They tell her, "Girl, don't you know this is the West and you are free?
You don't need to be oppressed, ashamed of your femininity."

She just shakes her head and she speaks so assuredly,

"See the bill-boards and the magazines that line the check-out isles,
with their phony painted faces and their air-brushed smiles?
Well their sheer clothes and low cut gowns they are in, really not for me.
You call it freedom, I call it anarchy."

This hijab,
This mark of piety,
Is an act of faith, a symbol,
For all the world to see.

A simple cloth, to preserve her dignity.
So lift the veil from your heart to see the heart of purity.

Lift the veil from your heart and seek the heart of purity.
 
Re: Millionaire pledges €1m to pay fines of French Muslim women caught wearing Face V

I am a bit confused here. The OP is posted just a short while ago but the article in the post refers to President Sarkozy who is no longer the president of France. Have I missed something along the way?

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Yes. I heard about this recently and searched for the article and posted it however it seems this story is quite old.

I think it's still worth knowing that there are people out there who are willing to use their own wealth to help our Muslim sisters retain their honour and freedom of expression. May Allaah :swt1: honour those who fight to protect the honour of Muslims everywhere.

Why are women allowed to walk around almost naked, yet when an individual decides to cover herself to protect her modesty, she is demonized by the law and threatened with fines and imprisonment?

Not too long ago it was shameful for even western women to walk around with their hair un-covered.

But look how times have changed.

Honestly, this world is turning crazier and crazier day by day.
 
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