Cain's wife.

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wilberhum said:
Or maybe an even simpler answer.
There never was a need.

I find it impossible to have an intelligent conversation about Adam and Eve.
It would be more fun to debate the Easter Bunny.
But then you don’t believe in Easter, so that don’t work either. :?

You can lead a horse to water
But some will never see the obvious. :laugh:

Keep your “Faith Blinders” handy.
You will need them the rest of your life. :D

I’m off this thread.
Enjoy :)
Wilber
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I've tried to decently reason with you, but you've been making jokes in pretty much every reply. I don't think you've been trying to understand this issue but are rather trying to disprove and insult our beliefs. If you ever want to seriously approach this issue, you're welcome to come back and discuss it.
 
wilberhum said:
Look at nature. Every species has found a way to stop inbreeding.
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not true - some have. many have not.
i am not knowledgeable in this area, but i think the problem with inbreeding depends on the gene pool. i think there is only a problem if there is a defect in the line.
 
snakelegs said:
not true - some have. many have not.
i am not knowledgeable in this area, but i think the problem with inbreeding depends on the gene pool. i think there is only a problem if there is a defect in the line.
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Can you name some that have not?
 
snakes and rats for sure, but there are many others. even dogs - say, siblings who are not raised together, will mate if given the chance.
myself, i avoid it (not personally, but in the animals i raise) to be on the safe side.
even humans - if they didn't know that they were closely related - there is no alarm that goes off if they mate.
of course, many species have indeed, found many and ingenious ways to prevent it, but many have not.
another example would be the parsees (zoroastrians) in india - they are forbidden to marry outside the religion and they are not allowed to convert people. i'm sure they follow the usual taboos about parents/kids, and siblings.
 
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snakelegs said:
snakes and rats for sure, but there are many others. even dogs - say, siblings who are not raised together, will mate if given the chance.
myself, i avoid it (not personally, but in the animals i raise) to be on the safe side.
even humans - if they didn't know that they were closely related - there is no alarm that goes off if they mate.
of course, many species have indeed, found many and ingenious ways to prevent it, but many have not.
another example would be the parsees (zoroastrians) in india - they are forbidden to marry outside the religion and they are not allowed to convert people. i'm sure they follow the usual taboos about parents/kids, and siblings.
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First of all I have no inclination to tell you anything about snakes. :D

But Rats, that different. Boy was it fun looking up information about rat mating. :?
My wife thinks I have lost it. :skeleton:
Have a look at this:
http://beheco.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/11/1/7
A preference by reproductively active females for unfamiliar males is interpreted as inbreeding avoidance.

As far as dogs, well if you are talking about domestic dogs, you are talking about a man created situation. Domestication is a process where humans, not nature, control breeding.
With wild dogs, when young males are chased out of the pack at maturity. Breeding is limited to the dominate male. The dominance cycle of the male is usually two generations or less which limits the inbreeding between father and daughters.

No matter how you cut the cake, inbreeding is a problem. In world of survival of the fittest, (or rat race:D (sorry I just had to do that)) inbreeding can spell the end.
 
naked mole rats are fascinating, but they are not really rats. they are very different.
btw, i saw some at living desert museum - they're cool to watch! much better than cain's wife!
 

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