Camel Urine Cure Humans

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cant we say same thing for the naroctics found in medicines? where it becomes halal b/c of the same reasons if it is urgently and highly needed
 
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I seriosly don't know why some people may have something against it, because if something is made permissible for us, then theres nothing wrong with having that insha'Allaah, and if something is made haraam for us - we should avoid it as much as possible insha'Allaah. It's that simple.


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and please let us not forget that in the past the substitute for such medicines were not available since there were no chemical factories

so herbal / natural medicine was practiced by ALL people christians, jews, athiests, muslims and everyone else
 
Alaikumassalam,

This may not be an expression that is acceptible in every Muslim Madhab, but it is readily an formidable external aspect of Australian Aboriginal culture that not many Aborigines give up when entering the Ummah of Islam:

it is that ever animal within which a Human Soul can abide for a time as a form of accepting a small portion of the total fire that is necessary in Allah, can produce substances that are health providing,

in fact that whole of the "bio-dynamic" farming philosophy is based entirely within such comprehension.

For myself as an Australian to eat the meat of a Kangaroo, when such aligns with the location of my birth and also my ancestry; is a form of being forced to accept my self, and that I may need to accept of the fire in the future, but that aspect that is causal to my having manifested too much within a herd animal pattern of behaviour.

So, within such context, I wonder what it is like drinking camel urine? Would it make me think "oops I had temporarily forgotten that hump on my back! better go and clean the toilet!" ???

Mu'asalam
 
ishkabab said:
Asslamu Alaikum
ok ok im sorry but i had to ask this question to a trustful person:
http://www.shariahboard.org/
Question 10109
I would like to know if this is true..ive heard from some people that Camel Urine Cures Humans....and people also say that the Prophet saw. has said so him self...is this true..and read this also..Narrated Abu Qilaba: "Anas said, "Some people of 'Ukl or 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine)... " (Sahih Bukhari, Ablutions (Wudu'), Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234)" [United States]

Answer :
The events of “Aukal” and “Oraina” indicate that usage of medicines made out ‘haraam’ items, to be permissible. But, according to the Hanafis and the Shafais, the urine of the animals we eat, is considered as defiled and unclean. In this regard the details are that “Tadawi-bil-Haraam” is permitted in a state of pain and suffering, that without using it, the life cannot be saved, or else if there is fear of loss of life, property or honour. Further, if an expert doctor or a Muslim physician says that it is not possible to save the life unless it is used, then in such a case it is correct. But if there is no danger to life and if it is to be used as a treatment to cure the disease, then a few Islamic jurists have given total permission, while there are other jurists, who outrightly deny permission. This is the position of the Hanafis and Shafais. However, Abu Yusuf (RA) holds that if an expert Doctor or Hakeem says without this it is not possible to cure the disease, then in such a case, “Tadawi-bil-Haraam” is correct. The explanation to the event of “Aukal” and “Oriana” is that the Holy Prophet (SAWS) was informed through a “wahi”(revelation) that their cure was through the use of the camel’s urine. Therefore, the Prophet (SAWS) gave them permission to use camel’s urine, as they were in terrible pain and suffering, and this permissible for those who were suffering. Perhaps, the Prophet (SAWS) did not give any express permission to drink camel’s urine, but only to use it externally.

Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) Knows Best


Mufti Ghulam Samdani Qasmi

hope this enlightens u guys...:)
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Muslimgirl01 said:
Im confused!!! Isnt animal urine is najis?
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apparrantly accordin to the clear clear clear hadith its good 4 u... im simply gessin it dont break ur wudhu.

The hadeeth referred to by the questioner is a saheeh hadeeth, in which it says that some people came to Madeenah and fell sick. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told them to drink the milk and urine of camels, and they recovered and grew fat. In the story it also says that they apostatized and killed the camel-herder, then the Muslims caught them and executed them. Narrated by al-Bukhaari (2855) and Muslim (1671).
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hmm naa i gess it aint najis... I GUESS !!

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Muslimgirl01 said:
Im confused!!! Isnt animal urine is najis?
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no it is impure, best to my knowledge - however we have to realze that in the old days there were no factories producing chemicals for use in medicine

so people ALL over the world - christians, jews, muslims, whatever belief relied on NATURAL ingredients to make medicines.

This process usually involved mixing different herbs, fluids, etc together to produce a remedy

So this particular reference in the hadith is to that type of medicine "using natural ingedients" to cure people. Such things may be allowed since there were no alternatives, and it was a question of peoples health.

As mentioned earlier in this thread even today we use natural ingredients in many things:
- premarin was metioned (taken from male horses)
- gelatin (from different animals)
- whale fat used in cosmetics
- monosodium glutomate taken from both plants and animal brains

and i am sure there are many others
 
So the conclusion my dear brothers and sisters???.....I say no:D
 
Mazed said:
apparrantly accordin to the clear clear clear hadith its good 4 u... im simply gessin it dont break ur wudhu.




hmm naa i gess it aint najis... I GUESS !!

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Why did they killed the camel herder? His camels helped them to cure their illness.I could not understand who was executed also. :-[
 
salam alaykum

so where do they use this daily? user name-nawal was saying her imam took it daily anyone can name places it is used regularly?

BTW I agree it should be taken with milk to make it palatable otherwise its not easy to down, apparently only 150ml per day for two months can cure many serious liver ailments.

such as hepatitis, cirrhosis, dropsy.
 
Perhaps its just me, but the article talks about *extracts* of horse urine, not urine itself. Yes there is a difference as one is waste with some chemicals in it while the other is simply chemicals w/o the harmful other stuff.
 
I would have to be seriously ill, to try this medical.
 
Aaron85 said:
I would have to be seriously ill, to try this medical.
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Yes, seriously ill! That would be mentally ill. :thumbs_do

Some have posted how bad Coke is. :offended:

I know what my choice of drink would be. :D
 
And if this insulting of Allaah's Messenger (peace be upon him) continues, then it'll lead to a ban. :)




Peace.
 
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