Can Allah's Presence Be Felt?

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

I think it would all depend on how you define and interpret feeling Allaah's presence. People cry whilst worshipping. It could be argued they are feeling Allaah's presence, through being mindful of him. Sometimes after praying Salaah people feel serenity, it could be argued they are feeling Allaah's presence. So on and so forth.

:wasalamex

Hmmm, but wouldn't that be defined as Taqwah? Being aware of Allah? Or even khashyah? I think whatever it is people feel, there is a legal definition for it. Using the term 'Feeling Allah's Presence' may confuse some people who are not well grounded in 'aqeedah, and personally I would rather stay away from it.

 

[seeker_of_ilm]

:wasalamex

Hmmm, but wouldn't that be defined as Taqwah? Being aware of Allah? Or even khashyah? I think whatever it is people feel, there is a legal definition for it. Using the term 'Feeling Allah's Presence' may confuse some people who are not well grounded in 'aqeedah, and personally I would rather stay away from it.

I agree, it being termed "feeling Allaah's presence", could open doors to innovative beliefs. Which is why I said "feel his presence through being mindful of him". Being mindful of Allaah and being aware of him, can be a way of "feeling his presence", in the sense that your imaan is strengthened by it.

 

[Woodrow]

:wasalamex

Hmmm, but wouldn't that be defined as Taqwah? Being aware of Allah? Or even khashyah? I think whatever it is people feel, there is a legal definition for it. Using the term 'Feeling Allah's Presence' may confuse some people who are not well grounded in 'aqeedah, and personally I would rather stay away from it.

Good suggestion.

Perhaps this can be used as a means to give us a chance to describe what we mean in compliance with what is correct. Those of us who are reverts are aware of what is felt when the words feeling the presence of God(swt) are spoken. However, I see now that is not the correct description or terminology of what is felt.

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

I agree, it being termed "feeling Allaah's presence", could open doors to innovative beliefs. Which is why I said "feel his presence through being mindful of him". Being mindful of Allaah and being aware of him, can be a way of "feeling his presence", in the sense that your imaan is strengthened by it.

:wasalamex

I guess I have a problem with is the word 'presence'. I still think that it would be better to say, 'Being mindful of Allah'. But I suppose it depends on how you understand the term.

 

[seeker_of_ilm]

Yes, the phrase "feeling his presence" can be very ambiguous. This is why I said it would depend on how you define and interpret "feeling his presence". There are many baseless beliefs, whereby some people even go into trance like states, where they claim they are "feeling Allaah's presence". This is why its important to be clear.

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

Good suggestion.

Perhaps this can be used as a means to give us a chance to describe what we mean in compliance with what is correct. Those of us who are reverts are aware of what is felt when the words feeling the presence of God(swt) are spoken. However, I see now that is not the correct description or terminology of what is felt.

Yeah that's true 3amu. However, someone may intend something good yet it may lead to something bad. Abdullah Ibn Mas'ud said to group of Muslims who were sitting in a masjid and performing collective dhikr (saying Alhamdulillah, Allahu akbar, etc.)

'Woe to you, O Ummah of Muhammad! How fast is your distruction. The companions of the Prophet are still around, and his clothes are not warn out yet (meaning the Prophet's) and his utensils are not broken yet. By the One in Whose hand is my life, you are either following a religion better than the deen of Muhammad, or charging into a gate of deviation.' They said, 'By Allah, O Abu Abdurrahman, we only intended to do good.' He said 'How many who intend to do good, but never accomplish it.' [Ad-Daarimee]

Allahu A'lam. Perhaps I am exaggerating.

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

Yes, the phrase "feeling his presence" can be very ambiguous. This is why I said it would depend on how you define and interpret "feeling his presence". There are many baseless beliefs, whereby some people even go into trance like states, where they claim they are "feeling Allaah's presence". This is why its important to be clear.

Yeah that's why I was very unsure about the term. There are even some who actually think that Allah is everywhere, wa na'udhubillah min dhalik. Ok let's go back on-topic inshaAllah. I think i've hijacked this thread.

 

[Woodrow]

Far better we take the best choice to avoid the possibility of misleading anyone.

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