can anyone tell me about yoga?

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ardianto said:
I show you that thread because I want to tell you.
You right, shalat posture is akin to yogic posture, but shalat posture is not adaptation from yogic posture.
As Muslims, we have no objection to yogic posture. But of course we cannot adopt Hinduism behind yoga.
I know, yoga is good for health. And I think Muslim must create 'Islamic Yoga'.
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islamic yoga?! thats kinda ... :hiding: the way i see it is yoga is to them like salah is to us :?
 
amani said:
islamic yoga?! thats kinda ... :hiding: the way i see it is yoga is to them like salah is to us :?
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Wrong name, sorry.
I mean 'halal yoga'. New kind of yoga without Hinduism inside.
 
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islamic yoga?! thats kinda ... :hiding: the way i see it is yoga is to them like salah is to us :?
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Salat is about praying to God or worshiping God. Yoga has nothing to do with praying to God or worshiping God - it is about discovering our potential. It is another matter that in discovering our potential we discover God.
 
K.Venugopal said:
Salat is about praying to God or worshiping God. Yoga has nothing to do with praying to God or worshiping God - it is about discovering our potential. It is another matter that in discovering our potential we discover God.
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is it because it is to unite with the "god" that is in you?
 
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doorster said:
is it because it is to unite with the "god" that is in you?
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I have a feeling that one of the moderators is going to step in and terminate this discussion of Hinduism in an Islamic forum. But I think it would be interesting if this discussion is allowed to continue.

It is not about "uniting with the 'god' that is in you". (This implies that there is something alien within you.) The Hindu understanding is that all existence is one. Yoga is about discovering this in practical living. Yogis (the practitioners of Yoga) are seeking to achieve a state of integrity in the very act of living. The result is the living of an enchanted and harmonious life, which is our very birthright but often obscured because we tend to think that the truth is "out there" - when we are ourselves the truth.
 
K.Venugopal said:
I have a feeling that one of the moderators is going to step in and terminate this discussion of Hinduism in an Islamic forum. But I think it would be interesting if this discussion is allowed to continue.
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Surely, you jest!
It is not about "uniting with the 'god' that is in you". (This implies that there is something alien within you.) The Hindu understanding is that all existence is one. Yoga is about discovering this in practical living. Yogis (the practitioners of Yoga) are seeking to achieve a state of integrity in the very act of living. The result is the living of an enchanted and harmonious life, which is our very birthright but often obscured because we tend to think that the truth is "out there" - when we are ourselves the truth.
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really? thanx so only some people are Brahmin (dalits definitely have no gods in them)
K.Venugopal said:
Ardianto is quite right in saying that Yoga originated from Hinduism. I would add that the goal of Yoga reflects the Hindu philosophy of discovering divinity within ourselves. However, the yogic steps leading to its ultimate goal are many and in the early stages it is largely about achieving physical health and its practice is not dependent on the practitioner owing allegiance to any particular religious belief system.
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would you please make-up your mind? what is the difference between me saying " discovering god within oneself" and you ealier saying "discovering divinity within ourselves"

"A Yogi is one who wants liberation from all worldly suffering and the cycle of birth and death, at which point there is a realisation of identity with the Supreme Brahman (the ultimate Reality or supreme self). In the Mahabharata, the goal of yoga is described as entering the world of Brahma.
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It is a service to svayam bhagavān (Sanskrit for "The Lord" or Lord Himself),which is the ultimate goal of the yoga process, wherein perfection culminates in an eternal union with Hindu trinity or gods Vishnu, Rama or Krsna"​
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oopse!
every living being is Brahman and It is said:"Any one who knows the supreme Brahman becomes Brahman indeed"
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what better way to find him than to become a jogi? You can read all about it in > Bhagavad-gītā
 
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doorster said:
"A Yogi is one who wants liberation from all worldly suffering and the cycle of birth and death, at which point there is a realisation of identity with the Supreme Brahman (the ultimate Reality or supreme self). In the Mahabharata, the goal of yoga is described as entering the world of Brahma.
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It boils down to an individual attaining "peace that surpasseth all understanding". This yogic legacy of Hinduism is there to be claimed by any individual. Any denial of access to it, for whatever reason, would be artificial and temporary - Man needs to know himself before he can know anything else.
 
Any denial of access to it, for whatever reason, would be artificial and temporary - Man needs to know himself before he can know anything else.
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so it is 2 step process?

1 I find myself
2 after having found myself Brahman will just pop up and take up residence in me?

oh and what is this:
K.Venugopal said:
Ardianto is quite right in saying that Yoga originated from Hinduism. I would add that the goal of Yoga reflects the Hindu philosophy of discovering divinity within ourselves. However, the yogic steps leading to its ultimate goal are many and in the early stages it is largely about achieving physical health and its practice is not dependent on the practitioner owing allegiance to any particular religious belief system.
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doorster said:
so it is 2 step process?

1 I find myself
2 after having found myself Brahman will just pop up and take up residence in me?
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"Brahman" as used in Hinduism (not to be confused with Brahma or Brahmin, which words have a different meaning) does not mean God or Allah. God or Allah primarily means 'creator'. Brahman does not mean 'creator' but is the 'is-ness' of existence.

I do not blame Muslims of being contemptuous of what they think is the Hindu claim of everyone being "God". For the Abrahamic religions, God is the entity that makes "footstools of nations". When Hindus say everyone or everything is God, they only mean that all existence is one. The oneness of all existence they call Brahman. This word Brahman has been misunderstood as God, the creator. God the creator is a concept that is transcended in the highest teachings of Hinduism - generally known as Advaita.

Therefore, to answer your question - discover yourself and discover you are God, nay - beyond God.
 
doorster said:
would you please make-up your mind? what is the difference between me saying " discovering god within oneself" and you ealier saying "discovering divinity within ourselves"
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So long as it is understood that by God we do not mean a creator separate from his creation, there is no difference between saying 'discovering god within oneself' and 'discovering divinity within ourselves'. We are thereby only saying that we are discovering the oneness of existence. God is not an alien.
 
I cannot wait to go to a Buddhist Temple, and start Yoga (Nearly all buddhist temples, if your a "trainee" monk, teach you a very intense form of Yoga, and they use Meditation during it, and after it.
 
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