Can I be a dhimmi?

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Can I ask what kind of things makes you not relate to our Prophet Muhammad? (PBUH) If it's possible to know! Out of curiosity :)
 
I am wondring how this thing goes at nowadays in the Islamic countries? Is there some special tax for non-Muslims who is categorized as "dhimmi" and some different citizenship and rights than for Muslims? Or is this term dhimmi using in practice at all? How with in the court - different laws to Muslims and for dhimmis?
 
There's no such thing in the gulf at least lol. Since no one pays tax [emoji39]. Everyone receives protection under the state as long as you don't do things that are illegal, or insult Islam in any way.
 
UAE is the back yard of UK as KSA is the back yard of USA..Actually I wonder if there is a real Islamic State in the World today? Iran seems to me the closest one if not a real one, though most of the sunnis do not consider them even muslim..
 
fschmidt said:
Jewish is an ethnicity. I think you mean a follower of Judaism. But Judaism follows the Talmud, not the Old Testament. Just look at the core values of Judaism. They have no basis in the Old Testament. At its core, Judaism is racist. Yet Moses married a Midianite and a black woman. Judaism has detailed dietary laws like seperating milk and meat which have no basis in the Old Testament. I could go on and on, since I know quite a bit about Judaism. But the bottom line is that Judaism has strayed further from the Old Testament than either traditional Christianity or Islam have. This is one of the reasons that Jesus was so annoyed with the Pharisees.
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You are mixing Zionism with Judaism. Zionism is what prevails today in the Zionist State where they put more stock in the Talmud over the Torah. Zionism has hijacked Judaism for its nefarious aims. Most of its followers are not even Semitic and are not descendants of Abraham through Isaac. Rather, they originated from Khazaria and then migrated to Eastern Europe. They are called Ashkenazi Jews. It is these that are the rascals of the world.
 
anatolian said:
UAE is the back yard of UK as KSA is the back yard of USA..Actually I wonder if there is a real Islamic State in the World today? Iran seems to me the closest one if not a real one, though most of the sunnis do not consider them even muslim..
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Well, I am wondering is there any country which legislation would has mentions about dhimmis or is this just the historical practise? I have read about this word while I was reading the history but what about nowadays...
 
sister herb said:
Well, I am wondering is there any country which legislation would has mentions about dhimmis or is this just the historical practise? I have read about this word while I was reading the history but what about nowadays...
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Jizyah tax that the dhimmies pay to live under the Shariah of Allah has and will never be abrogated until the return of Jesus a.s. When he descends and destroys the the Dajjal, the jizyah tax is no longer needed because nothing but Islam will be accepted by the masses.
 
:bism: (In the Name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful)

I'd second that question, @fschmidt. And welcome to IB (though I know in technical detail you'd registered many years before and recently started posting again.) But welcome, welcome! Also, I'd say as an ex-atheist that part of the ability to relate to the Quran comes from understanding classical Arabic - I'd recommend lectures of Brother Nouman Ali Khan who breaks down classical Arabic Quran in a way that's relatable and easy to understand for non-native Arabic speakers like myself.

Also, non-Muslims are typically respected in Muslim communities, and if you want to live in a Muslim community, that would not be a problem; what I'd repeat is what [MENTION=38772]Bhabha[/MENTION] had already informed you that cultural Muslims might not be practicing because they perceive their culture as more important than Islam and might be ignorant of their own religion. That said, practicing Muslims will God-willing be able to give you the flavor of having an Islamic culture, but unfortunately I cannot point you in the right direction of where this perfect community exists as I'm still trying to find my way to it.

Bhabha said:
Can I ask what kind of things makes you not relate to our Prophet Muhammad? (PBUH) If it's possible to know! Out of curiosity :)
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sister herb said:
Well, I am wondering is there any country which legislation would has mentions about dhimmis or is this just the historical practise? I have read about this word while I was reading the history but what about nowadays...
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Acctually I dont know. Turkey is a secular republic and I dont know other muslim countries so much..

But as far as I know no there is no jizyah in any muslim country today. It is so hard to implement today where the world is ruled economically by the non Muslim west.
 
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Bhabha said:
Can I ask what kind of things makes you not relate to our Prophet Muhammad? (PBUH) If it's possible to know! Out of curiosity :)
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I just relate much more to the Old Testament than to the Quran. I have nothing against the Quran, but when I read it, it doesn't seem nearly as compelling to me as the Old Testament does.
 
fschmidt said:
I just relate much more to the Old Testament than to the Quran. I have nothing against the Quran, but when I read it, it doesn't seem nearly as compelling to me as the Old Testament does.
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That's because it's read in English [emoji39] do you read the Old Testament in Aramaic and Hebrew ?
 
Bhabha said:
That's because it's read in English [emoji39] do you read the Old Testament in Aramaic and Hebrew ?
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Not very much. I am starting to learn Hebrew but it is difficult, and I have no plans to learn Aramaic.

I have heard of the importance of learning Arabic to read the Quran. But my understanding is that Hebrew and Arabic are similar languages, so then why is to so much more difficult to translate the Quran to English than to translate the Old Testament? I can appreciate the Old Testament in English, but I appreciate it even more in Hebrew.
 
fschmidt said:
So my question is simple, can I be a dhimmi in an Islamic community and be socially accepted by that community and offered refuge from the horrors of modern culture?
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You can also do that without paying jizya, because there is no islamic state to pay jizya. And a community is not allowed to collect jizya. The reason of paying jizya is to protect non-muslims (their wealth, freedom, religion etc.) but communities don't have the capability to do this.
I agree with [MENTION=16149]anatolian[/MENTION], and I hope you will learn more about Islam and become a muslim, to save your eternal life in the hereafter.

The second caliph Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) and several companions were passing in front of a monastery, he saw a weak, old priest and started to cry. The companions asked him why he was crying. He pointed at the priest and read these verses of the Quran:

''Labouring (hard), weary.
Entering into Blazing Fire''
(Ghashiya 3,4)

He works hard and leaves the enjoyment of this world but is still not save from the fire, because he worships others besides Allah (God).
 

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