Can I make dua for a non-muslim?

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i_m_tipu;450606]First let me remind u
Not required <>(not equal to) Haram or prohibited or not allowed to doing.

Not required =(mean) useless if u do it.
Prohibited =(mean) u are not permitted/allow to do.
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Important: u must understand help only come when Allaah will forgive and mercy.
Ask for forgiveness is first action than ask for help.
May Allaah give us proper understanding.

So Allah only helps non muslims after forgiveness and mercy? Allah is already merciful to them. He Alone is The Provider for all mankind. Is that not Allah's mercy that He has blessed those with health and wealth even though He is displeased with them?

Quran-:"God is the Creator of everything. He is the guardian over everything. Unto Him belong the keys of the heavens and the earth." (39:62, 63)

If u study my post
I used quote a sentence
“Allaah knows the best”
Only bcoz there is lacking of concrete evidence.
I agree.


If u study ur post
It seem u r quite obvious of ur believe
Even thou there is no evidence of praying dua for non believer
Even thou there is many evidence of praying for hedayat for non believer.
There is sufficient evidence on praying for hidayah. We agree upon that. But you seem to be stuck on posting that fact repeatedly when I've already made clear my opinion.

Is not it looks unapropeate to ask help/ forgiveness to Allaah(SWT)
Forgiveness again? ZzZzZzZzzzz..... as for praying for help, I don't see the harm. Like I said Allah is there for all mankind. Muslim or not.

for non believer who does not believe is god (believe in partner of God or disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah).
Wouldn't you pray for a sick non muslim child, because his parents associate partners with God? Or does that shake your opinion because you realise that a child is innocent and yet ignorant of knowledge? Would that be OK with you? Would you not pray for those in distress who have never heard of Islam?
If so why not? If yes, then why differentiate between them?

Allah is displeased and hates what they believe. That is not the same as hating them. Allah is already showering His mercy upon them, then what is wrong if we ask Allah to do the same?

If u say to a non believer that I make a dua for u.
I m sure he will asking in mind may my God help me (may this/that doctor/policeman/driver (whatever) help me get rid of my problems)

Did you not see the reaction of non muslims on this thread when they saw that muslims shouldn't pray for them. Far from minding if a muslim prayed for them, I think they would've been rather impressed by a caring attitude. Furthermore a prayer is a plea to Allah from one's heart. You don't stop to think whether someone will approve or not. You're not doing it to gain points. It's only the essence of humanity and compassion that would enable you to pray for someone in the first place.

u must not forget we do not have better thought than Allaah and His Prophets
No one denied that.


[B]Extract taken from another site:[/B]
However, it will be permitted to pray for the guidance of a non-Muslim when he/she is alive, hoping that he/she is guided and accepts Islam. It will also be permitted to pray for the good-health and well-being of a particular non-Muslim. (See: al-Mawsu’a al-Fiqhiyya, Kuwait)

Visiting and offering condolences at the time of bereavement

It is permitted to visit a non-Muslim to offer one’s condolences for a family bereavement. It is stated in al-Fatawa al-Hindiyya:

“If a non-Muslim dies, one may say to the deceased’s father or some other relative of his: “May God recompense you with someone better and honour you with Islam, and that He bestow you with a Muslim child…” (al-Fatawa al-Hindiyya, 5/348)


The highlighted part of the sentence has nothing to do with guidence but is a prayer for comfort and sympathy for the deceased's relative. Anything wrong with that?

All in all, I've spent hours (which I don't have) researching this topic. My aim is not to make anyone agree with me. I merely stated my opinion and tried to explain and justify it. Everyone should do what they feel comfortable with. I don't have time to continue with endless debate, especially when the topic keeps revolving around praying for forgiveness etc.. which never was the issue.

If I do, it may be a while before I reply.

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Muslimah_Sis said:
i_m_tipu said:
Important: u must understand help only come when Allaah will forgive and mercy.
Ask for forgiveness is first action than ask for help.
May Allaah give us proper understanding.

So Allah only helps non muslims after forgiveness and mercy? Allah is already merciful to them. He Alone is The Provider for all mankind. Is that not Allah's mercy that He has blessed those with health and when, even though He is displeased with them?

Quran-:"God is the Creator of everything. He is the guardian over everything. Unto Him belong the keys of the heavens and the earth." (39:62, 63)

here we go again :p

i am afrid i do not .......

but i should not continue:X

Quran-:"God is the Creator of everything. He is the guardian over everything. Unto Him belong the keys of the heavens and the earth." (39:62, 63)

this aya in above topic :?....:-\


Muslimah_Sis said:
Extract taken from another site:

However, it will be permitted to pray for the guidance of a non-Muslim when he/she is alive, hoping that he/she is guided and accepts Islam. It will also be permitted to pray for the good-health and well-being of a particular non-Muslim. (See: al-Mawsu’a al-Fiqhiyya, Kuwait)

Visiting and offering condolences at the time of bereavement

It is permitted to visit a non-Muslim to offer one’s condolences for a family bereavement. It is stated in al-Fatawa al-Hindiyya:

JajakAllaah for the info

can u provide the source or the dalil behind this Fatawa

i m sure it will give me knowledge.
willing to take any better proof insAllaah.....


Muslimah_Sis said:
“If a non-Muslim dies, one may say to the deceased’s father or some other relative of his: “May God recompense you with someone better and honour you with Islam, and that He bestow you with a Muslim child…” (al-Fatawa al-Hindiyya, 5/348)

:-\.....:-\

There are very clear indications in Quran.
Chapter: 9
At-Tawba (Repentance, Dispensation)
verse: 113


مَا كَانَ لِلنَّبِيِّ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا أَنْ يَسْتَغْفِرُوا لِلْمُشْرِكِينَ وَلَوْ كَانُوا أُولِي قُرْبَى مِنْ بَعْدِ مَا تَبَيَّنَ لَهُمْ أَنَّهُمْ أَصْحَابُ الْجَحِيمِ​
It is not fitting, for the Prophet and those who believe, that they should pray for forgiveness for pagans (Mushrikun, polytheists, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah), even though they be of kin, after it is clear to them that they are companions of the Fire.

tafsir of this aya
Bukhari, VI, No. 197.
This aya was revealed firstly in connection with the death of the Prophet's uncle Abu Talib, where Muhammad said 'I will keep on asking (Allah for) forgiveness for you unless I am forbidden to do so'. Then there was revealed: it is not fitting for the Prophet and those who believe that they should pray for forgiveness for pagans, even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are the companions of the Fire.

Wahidi, op. cit., p. 152.
The other occasion reported is when the Companions and in particular 'Umar b. al-Khattab found the Prophet shedding tears when he visited the graveyard. The Prophet explained that he had visited his mother's grave and that he had asked his Lord's permission to visit it which had been granted to him and that he had also asked his Lord's permission to pray for her forgiveness which had not been granted to him and the above aya had been revealed.

Tafsir Al-Qurtubi
And Ibrahim's (Abraham) invoking (of Allah) for his father's forgiveness was only because of a promise he [Ibrahim (Abraham)] that he (his father) is an enemy of Allah, he disassociated himself from him. Verily Ibrahim (Abraham) was Awwah (one who invokes Allah with humility, glorifies Him and remembers Him much) and was forbearing.​


Chapter: 9
At-Tawba (Repentance, Dispensation)
verse: 84


وَلا تُصَلِّ عَلَى أَحَدٍ مِنْهُمْ مَاتَ أَبَدًا وَلا تَقُمْ عَلَى قَبْرِهِ إِنَّهُمْ كَفَرُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ وَمَاتُوا وَهُمْ فَاسِقُونَ​
Nor do thou ever pray for any of them that dies, nor stand at his grave; for they rejected Allah and His Messenger, and died in a state of perverse rebellion.

tafsir of this aya

Sahih Bukhari: Volume 2, Book 23, Number 359:
Narrated Ibn 'Umar: When 'Abdullah bin Ubai (the chief of hypocrites) died, his son came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Please give me your shirt to shroud him in it, offer his funeral prayer and ask for Allah's forgiveness for him." So Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) gave his shirt to him and said, "Inform me (When the funeral is ready) so that I may offer the funeral prayer." So, he informed him and when the Prophet intended to offer the funeral prayer, 'Umar took hold of his hand and said, "Has Allah not forbidden you to offer the funeral prayer for the hypocrites? The Prophet said, "I have been given the choice for Allah says: '(It does not avail) Whether you (O Muhammad) ask forgiveness for them (hypocrites), or do not ask for forgiveness for them. Even though you ask for their forgiveness seventy times, Allah will not forgive them. (9.80)" So the Prophet offered the funeral prayer and on that the revelation came: "And never (O Muhammad) pray (funeral prayer) for any of them (i.e. hypocrites) that dies." (9. 84)
 
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I am not sure whether I should 'resurrect' this thread - it seemed to get quite heated.

Personally I find the concept of deliberately not praying for non-believers very strange, and also very sad.

I pray for people of all faiths and none, when the situation arises!

Why?
Firstly and largely, because I feel compassion for people of all faiths and none. We share the same emotions and feelings, we react to pain and suffering in the same way! Why should I not ask God to show his grace and intervene???
Secondly, because God made us all - so who am I to judge who deserves God's blessing or not???

If I see a person in need, should I enquire about their faith before I pray for them? I don't think so!

I understand the Muslim desire to lead people onto the right path. As a Christian I share a similar desire.
But Jesus asked us to love our neighbours. That means to help them and meet their needs whenever we can. That means not just like-minded friends, but all neighbours! And it includes prayer as much as practical help (in my book, anyway) :)

Peace
 
oviously your allowed 2 pray 4 non muslims 2 be guided, Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) prayed plenty of tyms for his enemies 2 become muslims ....bt im nt sure if your allowed to pray 4 them for other reasons! ...I'll try & find out! ...Inshallah!...x
 

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