Can Muslims celebrate Christmas?

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cheese said:
What a twisted, taunting hand it is. "Hi, i want to be your friend by offering that you celebrate with me something..........

No thanks. :offended:
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I am an athiest and believe there is no Allah

I want to offer my hand in friendship in mid December with a an invitation to social gathering of friends at my house.

I have used the word "christmas" in my invitation and therefore you reject the hand of friendship.

Can Muslims ever find non-muslim friends in a non-muslim country?
 
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Joe98 said:
These are examples of Muslims rejecting the hand of friendship.

In which case we cannot live together.
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they are doing what their religion tells. nothing doing with friendship. i dun care if they don't come and sip or munch something at my flat in x mas eve. we can still live 2gether without bothering tha'.
 
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lol joe you're an athiest, that's the point. So don't even bother trying to get your head around advanced concepts when you still havnt understood the simple stuff...


ps: i agree wtih duke.
 
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Joe98 said:
I am an athiest and believe there is no Allah

I want to offer my hand in friendship in mid December with a an invitation to social gathering of friends at my house.

I have used the word "christmas" in my invitation and therefore you reject the hand of friendship.

Can Muslims ever find non-muslim friends in a non-muslim country?
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Will there be drinking at this gathering? Will there be free mixing between sexes? Will the food be halal or not? :rollseyes

A smart athiest would invite a Muslim to a gathering they are likely to attend.

I suggest you sit down before you read this following, it might be a huge shock to you: I have non-muslim friends and i live in a non-muslim country. Did i have to give up my beliefs to do so? NO!
 
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The concept is so simple you cannot see it

You are invited to my house for a little celebration in June

You are invited to my house for a little Christmas celebration December.

BOTH CELEBRATIONS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.

BOTH INVOLVE FOOD AND TALKING.

Tell why you refuse the hand of friendship in December??????

Is blind hatred the real reason?
 
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No. The point is we do not celebrate christmas! Why is that so hard to understand?
 
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Joe98 said:
The concept is so simple you cannot see it

You are invited to my house for a little celebration in June

You are invited to my house for a little Christmas celebration December.

BOTH CELEBRATIONS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.

BOTH INVOLVE FOOD AND TALKING.

Tell why you refuse the hand of friendship in December??????

Is blind hatred the real reason?
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what's in june? food and talking is not an essential part. x mas without that is x mas.
 
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Joe98 said:
Is blind hatred the real reason?
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no its not blind hatred. our Prophet told us that our eids are eid ul fitr and eid ul adha. eid-festival/celebration

theres no if but why where when how what.
 
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^^ I agree, and it's not blind hatred because the reasons are mentioned in the Quran, and i gave u a reference some where up the top.
 
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cheese said:
Will there be drinking at this gathering?
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Yes but you are not forced to drink.

You could show people the strengths of Islam by not drinking. Instead you won’t be there.


cheese said:
Will there be free mixing between sexes?
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Of course. Its all in one room, like being on a bus. What is your problem?


cheese said:
Will the food be halal or not?
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Some is and some is not. You are not forced to eat. You could show people the strengths of Islam by not eating food that is against youe belief. Instead you won’t be there.

Ansar Al-'Adl said:
No, it is not permissable for Muslims to celebrate Christmas. Religious acts in Islam are only those in conformity with........
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cheese said:
No. The point is we do not celebrate Christmas!
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Do you celebrate December the 18th?

How about a social gathering in a month starting with the letter “D” ??

How do Muslims in Melbourne socialise with non-muslims in December without the word “Christmas” being involved?



cheese said:
We do not celebrate Christmas. Why is that so hard to understand?
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Because of this:

Joe98 said:
Few Christains treat Christmas as a religious holiday.

Rather it is a time to get together with friends and family you have not seen for a year or so and share a meal and sometimes exchange gifts.
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Joe, like always you bring up some interesting points. One thing you have to keep in mind is some of us Muslims are professional party poopers. I enjoy sociolising with my Non_Muslims friends. But only at quiet small get togethers with no food, drinks, music or smoking. I prefer for men and women to be in seperate rooms and only intermingle out of necessity or business.

With that said, it is foolish for me to accept any invitations to any parties. Now that I think of it I have never been at a party at a Muslim home either, although I have been at a few Muslim friends homes for a meal.

I would be willing to accept an invitation to a party at your home, provided I knew that there would be nothing haraam at the party.

I would avoid:

food
Television
music
dancing
drinking
any socialising with women
No celebration focus, such as birthday, religious event, etc.

With that said, I doubt if you would enjoy having me over as a party guest. My concept of a "wild party" is there are about 5 people at the party. Everybody is related by blood or marriage. No event is being celebrated. I bring my own food and dishes.

Now with all that, the majority of my friends are non-Muslim. Because, at the apartment complex I live in those are the only people that get much time to visit me. I don't get out very often, except for my appointments at the VA clinic.
 
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Quoted from 'Aaidh ibn Abdullah al-Qarni book 'don't be sad''

The word 'isolation' and 'seclusion' have a special meaning in our religion: to stay away from evil and its perpetrators, and to keep those who are foolish at a distance. When you seclude yourself from evil in this manner, you will have an opportunity to reflect, to think, to graze in the meadows of enlightenment.

When you isolate yourself from things that divert you from Allah's obedience, you are giving yourself a dose of medicine, one that doctors of the heart have found to be a most potent cure. When you seclude yourself from evil and idleness, your brain is stimulated into action. The results are increases in faith, repentance, and remembrance of Allah, the Most Merciful.

However, some gatherings are not only recommended, but necessary: the congregational prayer, circles of learning, and all gatherings of righteousness. As for gatherings wherein frivolity and shallowness prevail, be wary of them. Take flight from such gatherings, weep over your wrongdoing, hold your tongue, and be content within the boundaries of your home. By mixing with others based on foolish motives, you endanger the stability and soundness of your mind, for the people you indiscriminately mix with are likely to be experts at wasting time, masters at spreading lies, and skilled in spreading both trouble and mischief.

"Had they marched out with you, they would have added to you nothing except disorder, and they would have hurried about in your midst (spreading corruption) and sowing sedition among you..." (Qur'an : 9:47)

I advise you to fortify yourself to your purpose and isolate yourself in your room, except when you leave it to speak well or to do well. When you apply this advice, you will find that your heart has returned to you. So use your time well and save your life from being wasted. Hold your tounge from backbiting, free your heart from anxiety, and preserve your ears from profanity.
 
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Ansar Al-'Adl said:
Hi SearchingSoul,
A lot of questions today? :)

No, it is not permissable for Muslims to celebrate Christmas. Religious acts in Islam are only those in conformity with the Sunnah of the Prophet pbuh, otherwise they are considered reprehensible innovations (bid'ah). Also, the celebration has its origins in shirk (associating partners with God), and lastly it involves assimilation with non-muslims in cultural celebrations.

This is what I know,Muslims can't celebrate any of the Kufaars' festivals.
Think about chrismas,Christians believe it is the birthday of Jesus,but for sure it's not.From the history it shows on this day some prisoners were being fleed
from the jail .
We have our own festivals,I think they are enough,and in celebrating them we also get the rewards from Almighty Allah, we don't have to find others.
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Crystal4Peace said:
A friend of mine who said Christimas and Easter were both pagan holidays originally and the first orthodox christians did not celebrate it until that guy, i forget his name brought pagan beliefs and mixed them up with christianity. I think this is when Roman Catholicism came into play, someone correct me if im wrong.
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Easter was celebrated before in the time of Moses. This was the time when you asked your enemies to come and sit at your table. For them, were killed a lamb or goat and the entire animal must have been eat entirely. Jesus never were agreed with the animal killing and whats really sad for Easter most of us tend to kill them. :(. The pagan fest was replaced with the Easter.

The Christmas night is dedicated to the church and family. It begins with the family dinner where no one else is invited and its followed by the midnight sermon from the church. For me this night is magical.:) Its the time when i feel most happy and peaceful. Don't ask me why, but i am just content and happy with everything.
 
 
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Thanks for the information. I find this interesting since I know a lot of muslims that enjoy the Christmas festivities. Hmmm Still it's nice to know the official ruling.
 
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^Yeh i was so shocked when i meet a Muslim who celebrated christmas, and that was when i was like 13 or something, i didnt have a clue that it was actually officially forbiden for Muslims to celebrate it but obviously it just didnt make sense. It's like, hello, we dont believe Jesus was God, why are you celebrating christmas?? :?

But then again those same Muslims drank wine so..:rollseyes
 
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cheese said:
It's like, hello, we dont believe Jesus was God, why are you celebrating christmas?? :?

But then again those same Muslims drank wine so..:rollseyes
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I think those who decided to celebrate Christmas are not considering Jesus like God. They want only to respect their friends joy and ,if they are invited, try to take part only at meals without to drink wine.
Also, thats depend of the country. Over here its a family dinner so we are not inviting friends at all.
 
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^^ yeh, they're the ones that Allah cursed, just like the way he cursed the people who broke the sabbath who didn't actually fish, but all they done was eat the fish "to respect their friends joy and only take part in means" but they didn't go out and break god's law about the Sabbath.
 
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lolwatever said:
^^ yeh, they're the ones that Allah cursed, just like the way he cursed the people who broke the sabbath who didn't actually fish, but all they done was eat the fish "to respect their friends joy and only take part in means" but they didn't go out and break god's law about the Sabbath.
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Where have you read about Allah cursed the people which ate fish?
 

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