can some one explain chirstianity ..

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I am trying to educate myself more about christiantiy and what they believe but I am not quite sure where to start..


what is the holy book they refer to ... i know it is the bible, but which one? why are there different books by matthew or paul etc?

Where should I start?
 
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Bro, I like your enthusiasm for knowledge but considering the other questions you've asked previously, I wouldn't really encourage you to go towards the Bible. Now is not the time for you to go that lane. Use all of this time with either the Qur'an or the Ahadeeth or sayings/events of our righteous ancestors. When I started researching, for the outside of Islam part, I relied only on Dr. Zakir Naik and Ahmed Deedat for it. Don't start reading the Bible, watch lectures by those two extraordinary gentlemen.

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Christians worship Isa (PBUH) as God, if that doesn't satisfy your heart or mind then I wouldn't waste my time on a religion of contradiction, pagan practices and no real sense of jurisprudence.
The so-called 'death of Jesus' has different accounts in each of their bibles, his last words the same story, half of the actions attributed to him are made up by scribes whose writing isn't congruent.

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I just want to know purely for comparative purposes... I have watched zakir naik and ahmad deedat and their debates against Christians but I just want to get an understanding of it for my own...

I was on a chirstian forum earlier just going through some of the stuff they talk about and they seem so convinced with their religion while making claims about islam that it is a religion of hate/violence..

i just want too see the common ground between the 2 religions and where we part...

Mashallah i am very content and firmly believe in Islam and Inshallah that will never change.
 
try youtubing Bart Eherman he's a christian scholar and historian he'll teach you alot, or the converts on the board. Like br. Mustafa

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okay, but could you explain why there are many different books? do they all mean the same things?

what is the psalms? or the book of matthews or james or paul, the new testament the OT?

is there one main book i can pick up and read to understand chirstianity? or do I have to go searching different books to get its meaning?
 
different books is your best bet. The psalms are from the old testament they're what the Quran refers to as Zabur.. some are ok, the rest are filled with filthy sexual content.
 
Don't ask about Christianity on an Islamic forum if you're serious about learning the details of what Christians actually believe... I mean, you wouldn't go to Christians for info on Islam would you? You already mentioned that the ones you've spoken to said Islam was a religion of hate and violence... The best way to learn is to ask Christians AND go to their sources (since some Christians aren't very well versed in their own texts/history, just as some Muslims aren't)... Also understand that there are tons of different Christian sects, and each has its own beliefs. You'll have a hard time finding any two Christians that believe exactly the same thing. :p: I'd recommend going to a few churches and talking to people there.
 
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ahhh ... seems like a lot of work.. can some one just tell me one book that i should read .. can't be that hard..

what is the MAIN book.. the MAIN BIBLE -
 
^Haha, if you really want to learn the religion you can't take any easy roads. :p: The bare bones could be summed up by most Christians though, so I suggest you ask them (preferably someone who works in a church). You might be confused if you just consult the Bible on your own, but most of Christianity is based on the New Testament, so if you want you could read that... Although you don't seem to be too interested in something that would require actual studying.

From what I know and have studied, the basic idea behind Christianity is that sin was brought into the world through Adam and Eve's transgression in the Garden. Because of this, all humans are tainted with sin, and the price of sin in the eyes of god is death... To fix this broken relationship between God and mankind, God sends his son (Jesus) to earth so that he can die for the sins of humanity. People are saved if they believe in and accept Christs death on the cross and his sacrifice for humanity. Christians also believe Jesus is God, since in Christianity God is one and three at the same time. He's one God, but in three persons: The Father, the son, and the holy spirit. That's the basic idea.
 
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oh the new testament... I think I have a copy of that somewhere lying around.. I shall go find it

peace
 
To put some of the differences between Islam and Christianity briefly:

  • Christians believe Eesa (AlayhiSalaam) is the only "begotten son" of Allah (nauzbillah) and Muslims don't believe so because "begetting" a child involves an act as low as sex and we don't believe Allah to have animal instinct of sex like humans do. More importantly, Allah says in Surah Ikhlas (Chapter 112) that He doesn't beget.
  • Christians believe Christ died on the cross for the sins of humans and whoever believes in him shall attain salvation whereas Muslims believe he never died on the cross because the Qur'an says so in Surah Nisa 4:157 and was lifted up to the heavens alive.
  • Christians attribute the most disgusting and heinous stories to the pure prophets whom Islam holds in high regard such as accusing Ayub (Job) of having lost faith in Allah's mercy. Accusing Lut (Lot) of incest with his daughters. Solomon/David of polytheism. NAUZBILLAH. And other such ridiculous stories.
  • Christians believe there are 3 gods in 1 : Allah, Eesa (The Son) and the Holy Ghost whereas Muslims believe purely and totally in one and only Allah. No son or ghost.

There are more differences but I need my blood to cool down before I go any further. :raging:

Why are you researching Christianity in the first place?
 
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ahhh ... seems like a lot of work.. can some one just tell me one book that i should read .. can't be that hard..

what is the MAIN book.. the MAIN BIBLE -
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There is no main bible, there are literally thousands of different versions of bibles.

You can start by reading some basic past threads in the comparative religion section of this forum.

A lot of info already in this forum.
 
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oh the new testament... I think I have a copy of that somewhere lying around.. I shall go find it
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you need to learn the history of new testament to get to know why/how christians became what they are.

some of the best books on new testaments are written by one of the most important NT scholars: Bart Ehrman.

http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Christia...=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1322142055&sr=1-4
http://www.amazon.com/Forged-Writin...=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1322142055&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Interru...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1322142055&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Misquoting-Je...=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1322142055&sr=1-3
http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Scriptur...=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1322142055&sr=1-6
http://www.amazon.com/Orthodox-Corr...=sr_1_9?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1322142055&sr=1-9

read those books, and you'll have much better idea what christianity is.
 
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Hey, I know that guy, Bart D. Ehrman, I’ve listened to some of his lectures on the NT, and I’ve got one of his books, “Misquoting Jesus: The story behind who changed the Bible and why” , I still have to check it out…haha.

But I don’t understand; he doesn’t believe the Bible to be the Word of God like the other Christians do, he calls it a “human book”…..then why is he still a Christian?
I guess he's Agnostic though….

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I just want to know purely for comparative purposes... I have watched zakir naik and ahmad deedat and their debates against Christians but I just want to get an understanding of it for my own...
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There are some really good books written by Shk. Ahmed Deedat on the similarities and differences between Islam and Christianity...
I'd suggest....

wassalam.
 
umm ... the main bible? I wish i could help on this... there are so many different bibles... Ive read many times that the jerusalem bible is one of the more correct as far as how many translations it goes from the original to the current. the king james... i used to hate... mainly because it was one that was made for the common person who may not have a lot of education during king james' time.

as far as just one book though.... you have to look at all of the denominations... often times they go for one particular translation .... and of course... you know... when you translate something from one language to another no matter how careful you are... the words are just not going to keep their originial meaning....

i haven't reverted yet but the koran makes so much more sense to me....
serena
 
The best and basic first step comparison of two religions is to hear converts stories on both side of the traffic and compare them.
 
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i'll be honest - i sometimes read the bible for knowledge and comparison and do find some amazing prophecies in there - but i also find much which i can prove has been adulterated and outright fabricated.
still the prophecies and history (what little we can still find) are useful and these were our prophets, so it is not "their" book, - the corrupt scholars and politicians changed it.

when i do read it and am not looking for a specific verse, i just open anywhere randomly with eyes closed and start reading from the first verse or chapter if on that page.
that way - i let Allah choose what knowledge (good or bad) He wants me to gain.
 
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Hey, I know that guy, Bart D. Ehrman, I’ve listened to some of his lectures on the NT, and I’ve got one of his books, “Misquoting Jesus: The story behind who changed the Bible and why” , I still have to check it out…haha.

But I don’t understand; he doesn’t believe the Bible to be the Word of God like the other Christians do, he calls it a “human book”…..then why is he still a Christian?
I guess he's Agnostic though….



There are some really good books written by Shk. Ahmed Deedat on the similarities and differences between Islam and Christianity...
I'd suggest....
wassalam.
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I don't believe that he considers himself a Christian anymore. I could be wrong on that, but he certainly doesn't believe very many of the things that would be considered a mainstays of orthodox Christian beliefs.
 

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