Can't read Surah Ikhlas?

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I have a question regarding surah ikhlas. Someone was telling me today that for the salat that includes 3 or 4 rakats, your not supposed to read Surah Ikhlas? I know this isn't true but I dont get it. I don't know why this person said that. Thing is this "person" has been tellin my cousin this. She recently started praying and she wanted to know. Obviously this doesnt sound right. Sooo if it's not, can you guys explain it to me with evidence, so i can show it to her InshaAllah. It's pretty important obviously. Or does anyone know a good site where I can ask? InshaAllah. Ok my mom doesnt know I still come on this forum lol. So InshaAllah a reply from a reliable scholar would be better otherwise, at least some evidence :)

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http://tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=112&tid=59465

Al-Bukhari reported from `Amrah bint `Abdur-Rahman, who used to stay in the apartment of `A'ishah, the wife of the Prophet , that `A'ishah said, "The Prophet sent a man as the commander of a war expedition and he used to lead his companions in prayer with recitation (of the Qur'an). And he would complete his recitation with the recitation of `Say: He is Allah, One.' So when they returned they mentioned that to the Prophet and he said,

«سَلُوهُ لِأَيِّ شَيْءٍ يَصْنَعُ ذَلِكَ؟»


(Ask him why does he do that.) So they asked him and he said, `Because it is the description of Ar-Rahman and I love to recite it. So the Prophet said,


«أَخْبِرُوهُ أَنَّ اللهَ تَعَالَى يُحِبُّه»


(Inform him that Allah the Most High loves him.)''
This is how Al-Bukhari recorded this Hadith in his Book of Tawhid. Muslim and An-Nasa'i also recorded it. In his Book of Salah, Al-Bukhari recorded that Anas said, "A man from the Ansar used to lead the people in prayer in the Masjid of Quba'. Whenever he began a Surah in the recitation of the prayer that he was leading them, he would start by reciting `Say: He is Allah, One' until he completed the entire Surah. Then he would recite another Surah along with it (after it). And used to do this in every Rak`ah. So his companions spoke to him about this saying; `Verily, you begin the prayer with this Surah. Then you think that it is not sufficient for you unless you recite another Surah as well. So you should either recite it or leave it and recite another Surah instead.' The man replied, `I will not leave it off. If you want me to continue leading you (in prayer), I will do this; and if you all do not like it, I will leave you (i.e., I will stop leading you).' They used to consider him to be of the best of them to lead them in prayer and they did not want anyone else to lead them other than him. So, when the Prophet came they informed him of this information and he said,


«يَا فُلَانُ، مَا يَمْنَعُكَ أَنْ تَفْعَلَ مَا يَأْمُرُكَ بِهِ أَصْحَابُكَ، وَمَا حَمَلَكَ عَلَى لُزُوم هَذِهِ السُّورَةِ فِي كُلِّ رَكْعَةٍ؟»


(O so-and-so! What prevents you from doing what your companions are commanding you to do, and what makes you adhere to the recitation of this Surah in every Rak`ah) The man said, `Verily, I love it.' The Prophet replied,


«حُبُّكَ إِيَّاهَا أَدْخَلَكَ الْجَنَّة»

(Your love of it will cause you to enter Paradise.) This was recorded by Al-Bukhari, with a disconnected chain, but in a manner indicating his approval.
 
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that companion read it in every raka'ah and he even read it as Imam in congregation (i.e. the Fardh prayers - 4 raka'ah, or 3 in maghrib) - but Allah's Messenger (sal Allahu alaihi wasalam) didn't stop him.


Allah knows best.
 
SubhanAllah, I was told by a few people that in four rakah fard, you only read surah Ikhlaas in the first two rakahs and have been doing this since :x
 
^^Omg I'm glad I asked this then Alhamdulillah.

JazakAllah Khair bro Qatada, that was helpful :)

InshaAllah maybe I'll wait for more replies, incase some others can help :D I just found out my dad prays like this =/. So I guess the more evidence, the better! But this explains it still.

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Ok I have a problem now...my aunt was saying this also. She prays this way too. I'm realllly confused now lol. So basically there are four people saying this! Ahh.
 
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no, don't misunderstand what i quoted. what may have been implied is that this companion read surah ikhlaas so much, hence the 'every' - i'm not sure.. i've been taught that you recite upto ameen in the last 2 raka'ahs of the 4 fardh too..


we'll have to confirm that by a scholar insha Allah..
 
What that hadith is saying is that this sahabi has a favorite ayah and loved that ayah and used to recite that ayah after Fatiha in every salaah. And because of his love for that ayah, prophet (saw) said what he said. I"m sure we all have some ayah we love more and is our favorite :)
 
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I've been taught like sis Jazzy and Muslimah_Sis...help! :ooh:
 
I've learned that you have to recite fatiha in every rakah, after that anything you recite is optional....didn't find anything on islamqa on this either...
 
Ok I think I'm not doing it right. So far anyone I've asked is saying only up to two rakats. I dunno how I even started to pray like that. But still I think I WILL get it confirmed InshaAllah. JazakAllah Khair though :)

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I've learned that you have to recite fatiha in every rakah, after that anything you recite is optional....didn't find anything on islamqa on this either...

So after Surah Fatiha EVERY surah is optional?? I Mean Can you read Whatever Surah you want After Surah Fatiha????
 
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I Mean Can you read Whatever Surah you want After Surah Fatiha????

Yeh, thats right akhee^

However it is better too read in order of the Quraan. For example if a person reads Surah Duha in the first Rak'ah, then they should read Surha Inshirah, Teen, Alaq, Qadr etc etc. They shouldn't read from above i.e Surah Layl, Shamsh etc. waAllahu A'lam

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^ no no no...u understood it all wrong! lol @ Guven

He means that you have to recite Surah Fatiha in every rakah, but whatever Surah u recite after that, u can choose. You dont have to recite Surah Ikhlaas.
 
This is the abstract from the way the Prophet (sallalho alaihi wassalam) prayed.

7- Witr prayer
"He (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) used to recite "Glorify the Name of Your Lord Most High" (al-A'laa 87:19) in the first rak'ah, "Say: O you who disbelieve" (Kaafiroon 109:6) in the second, and "Say: He is Allaah the One and Only" (Ikhlaas 112:4) in the third.268 Sometimes he would add on to the last one "Say: I seek refuge with the Lord of Daybreak" (Falaq 113:5) and "Say: I seek refuge with the Lord of Mankind" (Naas 114:6).269 Once, "he recited a hundred aayaat from soorah an-Nisaa' (4:176) in the third rak'ah."270

As for the two rak'ahs after witr271, he used to recite "When the earth is shaken " (Zilzaal 99:8) and "Say: O you who disbelieve" (Kaafiroon 109:6) in them.272
Source:

http://muttaqun.com/prayer/09.html#RTFToC21
http://muttaqun.com/prayer/toc.html

Hope that helps.
 
Yea but still thanks. I'm not sure if anyone really understood my question. Everyone is tellin me that when u get to the 3rd and 4th rakat, you can't recite Surah Ikhlas. The imam at my local Masjid said to do 2 sajadas at the end if you do recite Ikhlas by mistake. Any legitimacy to that? Just to be safe, I make sure I stop at the second rakat.
 
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Everyone is tellin me that when u get to the 3rd and 4th rakat, you can't recite Surah Ikhlas.

This is what I was taught as well...
 

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