Carrying a knife for self defence

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Blackpool said:
These people do not attack alone. People attack in gangs and they regularly occur in gangs of at least 6
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That is because they are afraid to fight one on one.
Carry an alarm with loudly sound. The alarm sound will call people to come, and that will make this gang afraid and leave you.
 
Blackpool said:
These people do not attack alone. People attack in gangs and they regularly occur in gangs of at least 6
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I never been in that situation. I would run and not look back. :skeleton:

Boxing doesn't really help against several people, good exercise though. Nor throwing cold water will help here either -_-;;;
 
I carry a screwdriver, not for self defense though but for... school. :hmm:

I detest weapons.

The best thing you should remember whenever you are in this kinda situations is to never show any fear, no matter how many they are.
 
Carrying a knife or any other kind of weapon is a very bad idea in the UK, because we have completely silly laws regarding self-defense here. Even hitting somebody in self-defense unarmed can land you in prison. I don't support gun ownership or other Americanesque things like that, but can't we just be a bit more tolerant towards people who risk their own lives to save their dignity or the lives of others?
 
The best thing you should remember whenever you are in this kinda situations is to never show any fear, no matter how many they are.
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I don't think this is very good advice. In situations like that, everyone will panic like hell, unless they've had brilliant training and/or is used to those kinds of situations. No one knows how they'll react if they have knife next to their face and risk loosing their sight and/or looks.
 
Supreme said:
I don't think this is very good advice. In situations like that, everyone will panic like hell, unless they've had brilliant training and/or is used to those kinds of situations. No one knows how they'll react if they have knife next to their face and risk loosing their sight and/or looks.
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Showing fear makes them more confident.

Not showing fear makes you have a better chance to get away.
 
Fishman said:
Carrying a knife or any other kind of weapon is a very bad idea in the UK, because we have completely silly laws regarding self-defense here. Even hitting somebody in self-defense unarmed can land you in prison. I don't support gun ownership or other Americanesque things like that, but can't we just be a bit more tolerant towards people who risk their own lives to save their dignity or the lives of others?
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Ah it depends. Sometimes people use unreasonable force. For example, A punches B twice. B pushes A on the ground. A cannot get back up and is hurt. Here it is considered reasonable force.

When B jumps on top of A's face, stamps his face several times, then that is considered unreasonable force considering A was in no position to harm you.

Though it does depend on the case itself.
 
Guestfellow said:
Ah it depends. Sometimes people use unreasonable force. For example, A punches B twice. B pushes A on the ground. A cannot get back up and is hurt. Here it is considered reasonable force.

When B jumps on top of A's face, stamps his face several times, then that is considered unreasonable force considering A was in no position to harm you.

Though it does depend on the case itself.
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The scario that happened to a friend of somebody I know was:
A and Co. jump on B's sister
B punches A and Co.
A is severely hurt

B is currently the one in trouble with the law, despite responding to the situation in an entirely reasonable and justifiable manner.
 
Legally, it's not a very good idea to carry a knife, as Trumble has made clear earlier in the thread.

Fishman said:
The scario that happened to a friend of somebody I know was:
A and Co. jump on B's sister
B punches A and Co.
A is severely hurt

B is currently the one in trouble with the law, despite responding to the situation in an entirely reasonable and justifiable manner.
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From the facts you've shared, perhaps A is trying to (mis)use the 'Thin Skull Rule' to his or her advantage.

The Thin Skull Rule is, if A strikes B's head without intending to do him serious harm, but B nontheless suffers serious harm because of his abnormally thin skull, A is still culpable for any harm caused, even if A was unaware of B's abnormality at the time.

In real life, B does not necessarily need a literally thin skull - just something that makes him abnormally vulnerable. I don't know if this is the case with your friend. In the absence of detailed information, I'm simply speculating. So don't take this particular section of my post too seriously. I'm just thinking aloud. Or onscreen. You get the point.

Regardless, in your case, B's legal representation could reverse the situation if they do their jobs properly and persuasively argue that B was acting in self-defence and presumably did not intend to seriously harm A.

Abdul Qadir said:
better to carry a sword or a gun brother...
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If he wants to get arrested, yes.
 
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The best defense is to avoid being in a time or place you will need self defense. If that is unavoidable concentrate on a means of getting help if you think you are going to be going into an area where a confrontation is probable do not go alone, also let somebody else know you are going, plan an escape route in the event something happens, stay alert and aware of your surroundings, stay in well lighted areas, avoid walking past suspicious looking groups, cross the street or look for an alternate route. If none of this can be done, try to replan and reconsider even going into the area.

It is also best to take martial arts courses. The best self defense weapon you will ever have is your own brain and body.

Prepare yourself physically and mentally and after you have done all you can do trust in Allaah(swt) to make up for any lackings and always make du'a for a safe journey even if the journey is just going next door.
 
Fishman said:
The scario that happened to a friend of somebody I know was:
A and Co. jump on B's sister
B punches A and Co.
A is severely hurt

B is currently the one in trouble with the law, despite responding to the situation in an entirely reasonable and justifiable manner.
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Well this raises several questions.

What was B charged with? Which court was he sent off to? It could be either the Magistrates or Crown Court? (It will give me an idea of what offence he may have committed).

Did A jump on B's sister, B who happened to be with his sister, punched A to stop the fighting/confrontation? OR was A who jumped B's sister, then B's sister tells her brother, B gets angry, finds A and punches him.

As Muezzin stated the ''thin skull rule.'' In other words, take your victim as you find them. If A suffered from a condition, and by B punching A happened to trigger that condition that A suffered, B could be found guilty of causing harm to A.
 
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Well this raises several questions.

What was B charged with? Which court was he sent off to? It could be either the Magistrates or Crown Court? (It will give me an idea of what offence he may have committed).
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Don't know.

Did A jump on B's sister, B who happened to be with his sister, punched A to stop the fighting/confrontation? OR was A who jumped B's sister, then B's sister tells her brother, B gets angry, finds A and punches him.
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The former. B's sister was attacked by stranger A in a public space whilst she was with B.

As Muezzin stated the ''thin skull rule.'' In other words, take your victim as you find them. If A suffered from a condition, and by B punching A happened to trigger that condition that A suffered, B could be found guilty of causing harm to A.
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As far as I know there was no condition, B was just good at punching.
 
Fishman said:
Don't know.

The former. B's sister was attacked by stranger A in a public space whilst she was with B.

As far as I know there was no condition, B was just good at punching.
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Well was he found guilty? A fine or a prison sentence? It sounds like he committed an offence under the Non-fatal Offences Against The Person Act 1997.

Like Common Assault (Battery) or Assault Occasioning Actual Bodily Harm. Highly doubt it was Grevious Bodily Harm. :skeleton:

Did he punch him more than once? I'm assuming he did.

What injuries did B receive?
 
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Güven said:
I carry a screwdriver, not for self defense though but for... school. :hmm:

I detest weapons.

The best thing you should remember whenever you are in this kinda situations is to never show any fear, no matter how many they are.
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:sl:;Dthats what my brother use to say when i was getting bullied i mean how is a nine year old not going to feel any fear:'(
 
i dont recommend it... its not really a deterant as people who do that sort of thing dont really pay attention (usually) normally attackers look for the weakest person or who APPEARS the weakest... (example someone whos hands are too full or is really preoccupied with something) it is proven that if you walk like you have a purpose and pay attention to your surroundings you give off an aura of confidence and to people who attack other people that means you are not a weak link... think of a lion picking out a gazel from a heard... stronger gazel are too much trouble... its the same with humans.
most people who carry weapons even tazers and such often tend to become victoms of their own devise.
 
speaking of hiding fears..i just thought of a good strategy...
pretend you're scared to death... fake cry and act like a total coward.
either get sympathy...or make them gain over-confidence...and when they approach, kick their groins and run like you've never ran before.
 
afzalaung said:
speaking of hiding fears..i just thought of a good strategy...
pretend you're scared to death... fake cry and act like a total coward.
either get sympathy...or make them gain over-confidence...and when they approach, kick their groins and run like you've never ran before.
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ha ha ha ha ha ha that might work! :-) sounds like a plan :-) he he he he
 

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