Cartoons in Europe, whats your opinion....

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They printed the cartoons because they are jealous of muslims because Islam is spreading very fast in Europe.
They printed because they knew how much muslims love their Prophet and they will react. and then they will make their Images negative and show it in the Media to make the public go against them. its a well planned scheme against the muslims
 
Sis786 said:
Back to Topic, - I think that these Pictures are degrading and an insult to a religion of peace,

Further i fail to believe that the Authors did not know that they would cause offence and were testing the "Boundries of free speech" My reponse is the same as Dr Azim Tamimi "Who are you bull s****ing"
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Hang on, you are confusing two issues - did they know they would cause offense? Well obviously. One of the cartoons shows a cartoonist drawing a picture of a Muslim hunched over his table, with the blinds pulled down, the lights low and looking over his shoulder. They, or at least one, clearly saw that what they were doing was dangerous. Was it testing the limits of free speech? Well that is a different issue. And yet clearly it was that as well. There is no point having the right to say whatever everyone agrees with. It is only useful if you have the right to say what you want even if you offend others.

I am sure the Syrian government claims it has free speech. I am also sure that it has to be "responsible" free speech. Which means Syria has no free speech at all.
 
The media (Peace be upon them) are the prophets of western free speech. Mahommed (Peace be upon him) is the prophet of Islam.

This is a clash of prophets. The west blaspheme the Muslim prophet and Islam and the Muslims blaspheme the western prophets and their free speech.

This is better than shooting each other with bullets and bombs don't you think? When we've all done with the fighting we can then get round and have a few drinks and a laugh.
 
PESHAWAR, Pakistan - Gunfire and rioting erupted Wednesday as tens of thousands of people took to the streets in several Pakistani cities during the country's third consecutive day of violent protests over the Prophet Muhammad cartoons. Three people were killed, including an 8-year-old boy.

More than 70,000 people flooded the streets of the northwestern city of Peshawar, said Saeed Wazir, a senior police officer. The massive crowd went on a rampage, torching businesses and fighting police, who struck back with tear gas and batons. A bus terminal operated by South Korea's Sammi Corp. was torched, police said.

Protesters burned a KFC restaurant, three movie theaters and the offices of the main mobile phone company in the country. A Norwegian mobile phone company's offices were also ransacked. Gunfire was heard near the burning KFC, as police tried to clear people from a main street, witnesses said.

An 8-year-old boy died after being struck in the face by a bullet fired by a protester, police officer Shahid Khan said. A 25-year-old man was killed by an electric cable that was snapped by gunfire, said the man's cousin, Jehangir Khan.

At least 45 people were being treated for injuries in Peshawar's two state-run hospitals, Khan and witnesses said.

This is an excerpt of recent news story. It is because of things like this that I started this thread....violent protests. Rioting, burning buildings, people injured a child killed...what good does this do anyone? Does burning a buisness in Pakistan have any adverse affect on the people who created or printed the cartoons in the first place?? Of course not!! It only breeds more fear and hatred towards Muslims. And perhaps by destroying these neighbourhood buisnesses they have only managed to hurt thier own muslim brother and sisters. How many muslims will be out of work now because their place of employment went up in flames? What will those families do now for money?? Actions like this do nothing to help the cause and everything to hinder it. If we dont act like civilized people we wont be treated like civilized people. How can we expect anyone to respect us if we dont respect ourselves enough to refrain from this kind of behavior.

Of course we are angry, outraged even, and we have the right for this, but behavior like what is described above only makes matters worse for us all! I continue to pray these occurances stop!
 
Salaam

The media (Peace be upon them) are the prophets of western free speech
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The media are pure evil the amount of lives they've ruined the american media are the worse, they won't dare tell the truth about 9/11 cause they don't want to be seen as anti-american
 
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"Back to Topic, - I think that these Pictures are degrading and an insult to a religion of peace",

OK ... let's do a little historical review. Just some lowlights:

  • Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslim officials block the exit where school irls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.
  • A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.
  • Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage
  • Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.
  • Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.
  • British squaddies getting some back on all 101 fatalities in iraq the media kicks the arse out of it and there is outraged
 
A few stupid cartoons and everyone kicks off, I know lets kill a few people as well, very peaceful. I would have never even know about the cartoons if it wasnt for your marches and protests all youve done is draw attention to something that you yourselves dont wish to be published. You might aswell have been paid for advertising the cartoons
 
Robert.Lane@Ora said:
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"Back to Topic, - I think that these Pictures are degrading and an insult to a religion of peace",

OK ... let's do a little historical review. Just some lowlights:

  • Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslim officials block the exit where school irls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.
  • A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.
  • Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage
  • Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.
  • Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.
  • Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.
  • British squaddies getting some back on all 101 fatalities in iraq the media kicks the arse out of it and there is outraged
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Assalam alikam

Point Number 1) No evidence Muslims Did 9/11 released to the public i challenge you to bring any evidence, and watch loose change 9/11

2) Where is this?

3) Its their actions not all or muslims or Islam, When serial killers kill in america i dont see them Going Greek orthodox Ted Bundy murdered this girl. If a muslim man did something, My point you would hear a Muslim Islamic Ahmed who goes to this masjit so and so did this.

4) Dont even go ANYWHERE ON WHO MURDERS WHO IN IRAQ, So much evidence stacked against you, you would just keep your mouth quiet on this subject

5) Again The persons fault not All the muslims or the religion. When the US invaded iraq, whats that justification? what the russians doing to chechnians wheres that justification?

6) The rest of them im not going to discuss because your not giving specific details.

As for the British, What justification was there for Iraq? Oh thats right weapons of mass destruction yet nothing found and nothing shown to the public?

Hmmmm i wonder... Whats your situation and problem? You have something Against Muslims? Do you? Im asking not saying you do or dont im asking you?
 
islam-truth said:
Salaam

The media are pure evil the amount of lives they've ruined the american media are the worse, they won't dare tell the truth about 9/11 cause they don't want to be seen as anti-american
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The only reason you know about the cartoons or the riots is because of the media (PBUT). It is the cornerstone of free speech and westerners revere it very much. In fact, this forum is yet another part of that media (PBUT), evil that it might be, it is still very useful -hey, you have blasphemed what I hold near and dear!! How dare you!! I am outraged!! (Grrr.. I can deal with this...I'll.. I'll just turn the other cheek)

Despite what you might think, westerners actually do have strong beliefs and they are willing to stand up for them, which is why newspapers have continued to print the cartoons. They don't do it to offend, but merely to point out to Muslims that they are wrong if they think we are faithless.
 
I have nothing against Muslims just hypocrites. As for your mention of why Britain invaded Iraq, I think its one of the best things ever to happen to iraq, or was it mutch better under Sadam's rule. Is it for oil? who knows! as for weapons of mass destruction, Sadam had already proved he had them and was prepared to use them by gasing his own people or was that just propaganda. Ive been out to Iraq and whitnessed first hand experience what is going on out there. Dont think Im anti muslim just a realist, it just seems that every problem in the world seems to be because of this peaceful religion. The banners down in London said it all, Kill those who talk bad about mohammed. I dont know the bloke or really care. Evil seems to be the root of all evil, people pick an choose what they want to keep even though their religion blantantly says otherwise. Whether it be cristians, jew, moslims etc.. you are all hypocrites. I believe in god but I dont need a religion or prophet to tell me so. Has anyone ever sat down layed all the religions out and thought them all through or have they just gone along with the easy option of believing what they were brought up to believe. I peronally believe that there is a god and that all the prophets ad religions point to the same god. Jesus, Moses, Mohamed none of them are god, they all belived in god, How are these gods different from one another? Please let me know! Jesus was supposedly jewish and the muslims came from abraham the same as in the bible(please correct me if Im wrong), does this mean that we're all related.
 
Robert.Lane@Ora said:
I have nothing against Muslims just hypocrites. As for your mention of why Britain invaded Iraq, I think its one of the best things ever to happen to iraq, or was it mutch better under Sadam's rule. Is it for oil? who knows! as for weapons of mass destruction, Sadam had already proved he had them and was prepared to use them by gasing his own people or was that just propaganda. Ive been out to Iraq and whitnessed first hand experience what is going on out there. Dont think Im anti muslim just a realist, it just seems that every problem in the world seems to be because of this peaceful religion. The banners down in London said it all, Kill those who talk bad about mohammed. I dont know the bloke or really care. Evil seems to be the root of all evil, people pick an choose what they want to keep even though their religion blantantly says otherwise. Whether it be cristians, jew, moslims etc.. you are all hypocrites. I believe in god but I dont need a religion or prophet to tell me so. Has anyone ever sat down layed all the religions out and thought them all through or have they just gone along with the easy option of believing what they were brought up to believe. I peronally believe that there is a god and that all the prophets ad religions point to the same god. Jesus, Moses, Mohamed none of them are god, they all belived in god, How are these gods different from one another? Please let me know! Jesus was supposedly jewish and the muslims came from abraham the same as in the bible(please correct me if Im wrong), does this mean that we're all related.
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Jewish Folks - Believe in God, Denied the Messiah ( jesus Christ Pbuh)

Christian Folks - Believe in Trinity Father Son Holy Spirit ( When in fact jesus never says worship me)

Muslim Folks - Believe in All the Prophets and Messangers , but Submit your Will To God because unto him we all shall return on the day of Resurrection. God has fathered no son nor has he have any attachments.

Lets take into defination Hyprocrit - You say something others when in fact you do it yourself, Pretend, To play apart.

Where do you see Muslims pretending?


As for your own information on propoganda, hasnt all wars majority of them under Propoganda? I sure as hell know Afghanistan was. The United States Govt never gave any evidence to the taliban that Osama bin laden did 9/11. Osama bin laden even denied the attacks. And dont bring up the tape that he said he did it watch loose change 9.11. That tape is so fake its unimaginable.

HAD the US gave evidence to the taliban, afghanistan would have been different. I was firsthand in Afghanistan you want any stories i will clarify them the best i can.
 
What part am I tring to play? Maybe we are all being fed a pack of lies by the people who govern our countries. however all wars are due to religion
 
Salam alaikam

Peace and blessings upon you,

Noooooooooooooooo Well some cases Religion MAJORITY OF THE CASES GREED AND THE $$$.

I know what your thinking over money slaughtering of thousands of people? Some people dont care these days.

If you go to pakistan tell a guy i give you 10k dollars kill this person, Some people would do it in a instant.
 
As for afghanistan, do you agree with growing poppies and supplying the world with heroine not to mention the farmers who are in debt with the drug lords and have to pay them with their own children, right... Afghanistan would have been different. I guess all of that was made up aswell.
 
Salam Alaikam

Well im from afghanistan, Uh that situation isnt only in afghanistan. In Pakistan a man owed another man i believe 200 dollars. The Pathan ( Afghan) Offered him his daughter. So that doesnt happen in afghanistan. And i have no recollection of that going on in afghanistan. MAYBE The shiites northern alliance members yes.

But you must understand there is allways righteous and wrong people in society these days. so you cant really trust anyone.

I for instance had to be careful if i had entered afghanistan i myself would be kidnapped by my own family held for randsom. See situation out there is rough.

Growing poppies and Opium not heroine my friend. If you studied your history the CIA was gaining profit from that drug business the CIA from the taliban Yes i have knowledge and experience in that and have spoken with many FBI officers.

Im part of the new govt to stabilize afghanistan, You dont understand. If you knew who was with bin laden before 9/11 You would not believe anything i tell you.

I agree that happens, But you dont understand Afghan Ghairut. A Afghan allways is arrogant but a strong warrior. Never has afghanistan lost a war and neither will it ever. Inshallah.
 
Sorry supplying the workd with opium, still a drug that kills thousands, but I guess thats ok, I suppose they as a peaceful nation of Muslim find this morall ok, something allah would approve of. (not meaning to be disrespectfull of your god)
 
The media are pure evil the amount of lives they've ruined the american media are the worse, they won't dare tell the truth about 9/11 cause they don't want to be seen as anti-american
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So what is the truth???
 
I belive that jews
Did 9/11 and they did it because
They knew they(As in stupid-bush and others)would blame
The muslims.

Islam is peace and anyone who studied it would know

SaLaMz
 

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