Ceasefire is active in Holy Land

[Dahir]

NOW Israel can move into Gaza and bomb the daylight out of Hamas. If Israel has ever wanted support from the international community, this is the opportunity to make its move.

This is the chance to show that Hamas only lives for war, and it literally does by the way.

Isreal, prepare your troops, march to Gaza, drag the bandits, and march back to Tel Aviv with confidence.

Go NOW Israel, because every other move you made was untimely, well, this is the chance, you have moral and logical reason to defend yourself.

 

[Malaikah]

Isreal will never cease to exist, unless you kill every Jew who resides there. That's not even possible. So like i conclude, peace will never be achieved!

There will be peace when Jesus (as) comes back and the whole world submits to Islam!:happy:

 

[lavikor201]

There will be peace when Jesus (as) comes back and the whole world submits to Islam!:happy:

:giggling:

Don't you mean the Moshiach comes and all follow the will of G-d and his teachings in the Torah.

 

[north_malaysian]

Should Israel follow the ceasefire, although within 2 days, Palestinians have already broken it, or should Israel sit there and just continue to let rockets hit them because the world will condemn them if they break the ceasefire, and fail to see the whole picture.

So the world could see, that Israel is the patient and trusted one. Shame on those who broke the ceasefire... :grumbling

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

There will be peace when Jesus (as) comes back and the whole world submits to Islam!:happy:

Can you link me up to this particular verse please, i'd love to read up on it?

 

[north_malaysian]

NOW Israel can move into Gaza and bomb the daylight out of Hamas. If Israel has ever wanted support from the international community, this is the opportunity to make its move.

This is the chance to show that Hamas only lives for war, and it literally does by the way.

Isreal, prepare your troops, march to Gaza, drag the bandits, and march back to Tel Aviv with confidence.

Go NOW Israel, because every other move you made was untimely, well, this is the chance, you have moral and logical reason to defend yourself.

Yeah... why not...

 

[sister herb]

So the world could see, that Israel is the patient and trusted one. Shame on those who broke the ceasefire... :grumbling

Israel broke ceasefire in the West Bank as killing two palestinians. As:

AMB fires missiles at Sderot in retaliation to IOF truce violations
By
Nov 27, 2006, 17:42


Gaza - The AMB fighters on Monday fired two Aqsa-103 missiles at the Sderot settlement to the north of the Gaza Strip in retaliation to the IOF troops violations of the fragile truce concluded between the Palestinians and the Hebrew state on Sunday.

The IOF troops murdered at an early hour on Monday a field commander of the popular resistance committees' armed wing in Qabatia to the north of the West Bank along with a 50-year-old woman.

The AMB, the armed wing of the Fatah Movement, said it was no longer halting its home made rockets as long as the IOF soldiers continue to kill Palestinians, construct the separation wall and persist in the economic and political siege of the Palestinian people.

The AMB called on the PA chief, Mahmoud Abbas, to issue urgent orders to the PA security forces deployed along the borders of the Gaza Strip with the green line (Palestinian lands occupied since 1948) to confront the IOF soldiers and not to block the resistance fighters.


© Copyright palestine-info.co.uk


Source: http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/article_20692.shtml

 

[lavikor201]

Hahaha! Palestinian Info com????? Are you kidding?

The UN observers have already proven that kassam rockets were launched hours before Israel responded.

You have it backwards, Israel gets shot at and responds... not the other way around.

Your mind is brainwashed with propaganda!


Al-Jazeera an ARAB news network even reported that the Palestinians borke the truce already hours after it was signed!

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/666CE826-6550-4A92-80A4-A0A31F831CD0.htm

A ceasefire between Israeli and Palestinian fighters in Gaza has held, despite a rocket attack on an Israeli town just hours after the truce began.

Islamic Jihad earlier claimed responsibility for firing several rockets into Sderot and said it would not agree to a ceasefire unless Israeli military activity also ended in the occupied West Bank.
Israel later pledged restraint and after public backing of the truce by Hamas and Fatah, the attacks halted during Sunday afternoon.

Thousands of Palestinian security officers have taken up positions across northern Gaza in an attempt to prevent fighters from launching more raids on Israel.

Abdel Razek Mejaidie, the security adviser to Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, said: "The instructions are clear. Anyone violating the national agreement will be considered to be breaking the law."

An official said 13,000 Palestinian security officials were on the ground in Gaza to stop the rocket attacks.

 

[afriend]

Isreal will never cease to exist, unless you kill every Jew who resides there. That's not even possible. So like i conclude, peace will never be achieved!

Not true...There was a program on TV called 'Inside Middle East', and it showed Jews and Muslims drinking tea together....I mean...Why not?

:giggling:

Don't you mean the Moshiach comes and all follow the will of G-d and his teachings in the Torah.

Why not put it, Allah will send down the guide (Isa[AS]) And he will instill the Laws of Allah (God) in the Earth...No need for specifications right?

*Iqram, back on the scene...

 

[sister herb]

Hahaha! Palestinian Info com????? Are you kidding?

No. I am not kidding. I know it is official site of Hamas. Am I brainwashed when I believe news from Hamas more than from zionists?

:giggling:

 

[abdil han]

salam all,
whatever happens there,israle is using tooo many force,,
jew friends,you are saying hezbullah have to give back 2 israeli prisoners,,,so, how many babies must be killed for them??!!

you are always defending yourlands, right!! you are the stronger side now and bo need to be reasonable for now,,building walls,killing innocents,,and all after ,when a muslim patriot bombed himself,you said ''muslim teerorists'',,...

since the ottomans over,you began to move to palestine more than ever and now peace needs a miracle,,,

the only country was ''muslim'' ottomans , who accepted you when the ''christians'' were killing n forcing you to move from spain in 1490s,,
(and isakhaleva,,,your ancestors must have come to turkey in these affairs,,right?)

and now, you became friends with those europeans and fighting against ur saviours huh!, you are thanking in a good way,,keep on!!

this is not honest..!

but the day will come,,

inshaAllah,,,,amin.

wasallam

 

[afriend]

way to go!

Everybody done with this discussion?

 

[Skillganon]

NOW Israel can move into Gaza and bomb the daylight out of Hamas. If Israel has ever wanted support from the international community, this is the opportunity to make its move.

This is the chance to show that Hamas only lives for war, and it literally does by the way.

Isreal, prepare your troops, march to Gaza, drag the bandits, and march back to Tel Aviv with confidence.

Go NOW Israel, because every other move you made was untimely, well, this is the chance, you have moral and logical reason to defend yourself.

In what part of rational thought and evidence you are calling this for and more importantly what part of the Quran and the Sunnah are you basing your Judgement.


I have no qualm that Israel-Zionist must be removed and nullified. This racist entity a remnant of the crusaders must be nullified.

 

[Fishman]

I have no qualm that Israel-Zionist must be removed and nullified. This racist entity a remnant of the crusaders must be nullified.

Actually I would call Israel a remnant of colonialism.

I have no problem with Jews moving to the holy land, and living there. In fact, I support it, since they have been persecuted so much elsewhere. But I do oppose people who conspire to take over a country by mass-immigration, which is essentially what zionism did.

 

[lavikor201]

since the ottomans over,you began to move to palestine more than ever and now peace needs a miracle,,,

Actually, the only reason immigration began then, was because the rascist idealogy, of many Arabs who would never allow a Jew to touch the so called "holy land". My family can trace my roots back as far as we can to living in Israel. As an Arab who is Jewish, my family never left Israel or survived all the invasions. Many other Jews were pushed out by invaders. They have a right to return to there land.

No. I am not kidding. I know it is official site of Hamas. Am I brainwashed when I believe news from Hamas more than from zionists?

Since when is Al-Jazeera "zionist"? I brought you a biased news source against israel isntead of the complete LIES you are reading.

Actually I would call Israel a remnant of colonialism.

The Jewish presence in "the Holy Land" -- at times tenuous -- persisted throughout its bloody history. In fact, the Jewish claim -- whether Arab-born or European-born Jew -- to the land now called Palestine does not depend on a two-thousand-year-old promise. Buried beneath the propaganda -- which has it that Jews "returned" to the Holy Land after two thousand years of separation, where they found crowds of "indigenous Palestinian Arabs" -- is the bald fact that the Jews are indigenous people on that land who never left, but who have continuously stayed on their "Holy Land." Not only were there the little-known Oriental Jewish communities in adjacent Arab lands, but there had been an unceasing strain of "Oriental" or "Palestinian" Jews in "Palestine" for millennia.1

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The Reverend James Parkes, an authority on Jewish/non-Jewish relations inthe Middle East, assessed the Zionists' "real title deeds" in 1949.2[/FONT]

It was, perhaps, inevitable that Zionists should look back to the heroic period of the Maccabees and Bar-Cochba, but their real title deeds were written by the less dramatic but equally heroic endurance of those who had maintained the Jewish presence in The Land all through the centuries, and in spite of every discouragement. This page of Jewish history found no place in the constant flood of Zionist propaganda.... The omission allowed the anti-Zionists, whether Jewish, Arab, or European, to paint an entirely false picture of the wickedness of Jewry trying to re-establish a two thousand-year-old claim to the country, indifferent to everything that had happened in the intervening period. It allowed a picture of The Land as a territory which had once been "Jewish," but which for many centuries had been "Arab." In point of fact any picture of a total change of population is false....​

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]It was only "politically" that the Jews lost their land, as Parkes reminded us. They never abandoned it physically, nor did they renounce their claim to their nation -- the only continuous claim that exists. The Jews never submitted to assimilation into the various victorious populations even after successive conquerors had devastated the Jewish organizational structure. But, more important, despite becoming "much enfeebled in numbers and deprived both of political and social leaders and of skilled craftsmen,"3 the Jews, in addition to their spiritual roots, managed to remain in varying numbers physically at all times on the land.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Thus, despite "physical violence against Jews and pagans" by the post-Roman Christians, more than forty Jewish communities survived and could be traced in the sixth century -- "twelve towns on the coast, in the Negev, and east of the Jordan [land ihat was part of the Palestine Mandate, called Transjordan in 1922, and declared the "Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan" only thirty-odd years ago] and thirty-one villages in Galilee and in the Jordan Valley."4[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]In A.D. 438 the Jews from Galilee optimistically declared, "the end of the exile of our people" when the Empress Eudocia allowed the Jews to pray again at their holy temple site.5 Recent archaeological discoveries determine that in A.D. 614 the Jews fought along with the Persian invaders of Palestine, "overwhelmed the Byzantine garrison in Jerusalem," and controlled that city for five years.6 By the time the Arabs conquered the land two decades later, the Jews "had suffered three centuries of Christian intolerance, and monkish violence had been spasmodic during at least half of that period."7 And the Jews hopefully welcomed the Arab conquerors.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The Muslim Arabs who entered seventh-century Jerusalem found a strong Jewish identity. At that time, "we have evidence that Jews lived in all parts of the country and on both sides of the Jordan, and that they dwelt in both the towns and the villages, practicing both agriculture and various handicrafts"* A number of Jews lived in Lydda and Ramle-which have been identified by modem propaganda and even by more serious documents as historically "purely Arab" towns. "Large and important communities" of Jews lived "in such places as Ascalon, Caesarea and above all Gaza, which the Jews ... had made a kind of capital [when] ... they were excluded from Jerusalem.'"8[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Jericho was home to many Jews9 -- the seventh-century Jewish refugees from Khaibar in Arabia among them. Khaibar had been a thriving Jewish community to the north of Mecca and Medina. After the Jews had "defended their forts and mansions with signal heroism," the Prophet Muhammad had "visited upon his beaten enemy inhuman atrocities," and "by the mass massacre of... men, women and children," the Prophet of Islam exterminated "completely" two Arabian Jewish tribes.10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The consequences of the war were catastrophic. For centuries the Jews of Khaibar had led a life of freedom, peace, labor and trade; now they had to bow under the yoke of slavery and degradation. They had prided themselves on the purity of their family life; now their women and daughters were distributed among and carried away by the conquerors.11[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]An Arab "notable" from Medina, who visited the site of hostilities afterward, was quoted by a ninth-century Arab historian:[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Before the Moslem occupation, whenever there was a famine in the land, people would go to Khaibar.... The Jews always had fruit, and their springs yielded a plentiful supply of water. After the conquest of Khaibar, the Jews were said to design evil schemes against the Moslems. But hunger pressed us to go to their fields.... We found the landscape completely changed. We met none of the rich Khaibar landowners, but only destitute farmers everywhere ... When we moved on to Kuteiba we felt much relieved....12[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The Jewish survivors from the area surrounding Khaibar were expelled from "the Arabian Peninsula" when the extent of the Muslim conquest was sufficient to add enough Arab farmers and replace the detested Jews. [See Chapter 8] Based on the Prophet Muhammad's theory, Caliph Omar implemented the decree "Let not two religions co-exist within the Arabian Peninsula."13[/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The Arab theologians' 1968 conference, 1,300 years later, continued to justify the Khaibar extermination of its Jews. One participant explained: ... Omar ... got experience that the Jews were the callers and instigators of the sedition at any time and everywhere. He purified Arabia from them. Most of them dwelt at Khaibar and its neighborhood. That was because he was informed that the Prophet said while he was dying: "Never do two religions exist in Arabia." [Sheikh Abd Allah Al Meshad]14[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Another Arab participant at that conference emphazised,[/FONT]

All people want to get rid of the Jews by hook or by crook.... People are not prejudiced against them but the Jewish evil and the various wicked aspects ... are quite clear.... ​

When Bani Qoraiza were punished, an end was put to the Jews of Madina. Those Jews had been the strongest, the richest and the most pernicious and harmful ones. They had been deeply rooted in the society and they had had a high rank and an important status.... ​

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Some orientalists ignore the various reasons why the Jews of Khaibar and others were punished.... These orientalists alleged that the invasion of Khaibar was launched because the Prophet wished to reward the Muslims of Hodaibeya and comfort them.... but we have mentioned the most evident reasons of the punishment befalling the Jews. The question of the booty is casual and always subsidiary for waging the wars of the Prophet. It is mentioned in the Verses of the Quran about Jihad [holy war] as a secondary reason for striving against the Unbelievers. [Muhammad Azzah Darwaza]15[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The seventh-century Jewish refugees from Khaibar's environs joined the indigenous Jewish population in "Transjordan, especially in Dera'a." In fact, Arabian Jewish exiles settled "as far as the hills of Hebron," but had they not "intermarried" with the established Jewish communities and connected somehow to the "Diaspora centers, they [the Jewish settlements] could hardly have survived as Jewish communities for hundreds of years." A settled Jewish community was present then in the northern Transjordanian city of Hamadan, "or Amatus" -"a city famed for its palms"-in the area that one day would be part of the League of Nations' [See Chapter 12] Mandated "Jewish National Home" in Palestine.16[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The Christian Crusaders of the eleventh century were merciless but unsuccessful in their efforts to remove any vestige of Jewish tradition. In 1165, Benjamin of Tudela, the renowned Spanish traveler, found that the "Academy of Jerusalem" had been established at Damascus. Although the Crusaders had almost "wiped out" the Jewish communities of Jerusalem, Acre, Caesarea and Haifa, some Jews remained, and whole "village communities of Galilee survived."[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Acre became the seat of a Jewish academy in the thirteenth century. And while "many may have merged themselves into the local population, Christian or Muslim," the Jews "stayed, to share and suffer from the disorder" of the aftermath of the Crusaders' "feudalism,"17 resisting conversion. During the twelfth and thirteenth centuries, "there was a constant trickle of Jewish immigrants into the country ... some from other Islamic territories and especially North Africa."18[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Jews from Gaza, Ramle, and Safed were considered the "ideal guides" in the Holy Land in the fourteenth century, as Jacques of Verona, a visiting Christian monk, attested. After the Christian had "noted the long established Jewish community at the foot of Mount Zion, in Jerusalem," he wrote,[/FONT]

A pilgrim who wished to visit ancient forts and towns in the Holy Land would have been unable to locate these, without a good guide who knew the Land well, or without one of the Jews who lived there. The Jews were able to recount the history of these places since this knowledge had been handed down from their forefathers and wise men.​

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]So when I journeyed overseas I often requested and managed to obtain an excellent guide among the Jews who lived there.19[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]In 1438 a rabbi from Italy became the spiritual leader of the Jewish community in Jerusalem,20 and fifty years afterward, another Italian scholar, Obadiah de Bertinoro, founded the Jerusalem rabbinical school that dealt authoritatively "in rabbinic matters among the Jewish communities of the Islamic world."21[/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The Jews, meanwhile, were plentiful enough so that in 1486 "a distinguished pilgrim" to the Holy Land, the Dean of Mainz Cathedral, Bernhard von Breidenbach, advised that both Hebron's and Jerusalem's Jews "will treat you in full fidelity -- more so than anyone else in those countries of the unbelievers."22[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The "Ishmaelite," or Islamic-bom, Jewish immigration to the Holy Land was prominent, and became intensified after the Spanish Inquisition. The Holy Land's throbbing, spirited Jewish life continued, even in Hebron, where "the prosperous Jewish community ... had been plundered, many Jews killed and the survivors forced to flee" in 1518, three years after Ottoman rule began. By 1540, Hebron's Jewry had recovered and reconstructed its Jewish Quarter, while the first Jewish printing press outside Europe was instituted in Safed in 1563.23[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Under Turkish rule the Jews in Jerusalem and in Gaza maintained "cultural and spiritual unity," and Sultan Suleiman I allowed many Jews "to return to the Holy Land." In 1561, "Suleiman gave Tiberias, one of the four Jewish holy cities, to a former 'secret' Jew from Portugal, Don Joseph Nasi, who rebuilt the city and the villages around it." Nasi's efforts attracted Jewish settlement from many areas of the Mediterranean.24 And those "Ishmaelite" Jewish communities that did not or could not make the pilgrimage were nonetheless spiritually attached to their brothers in the Holy Land.[/FONT]

Sources
1. See Palestine Royal Commission Report (London, 1937), pp. 2-5, 7, 9, particularly p. 11, para. 23.
2. James Parkes, Whose Land?, A History of the Peoples of Palestine (Harmondsworth, Middlesex, Great Britain: Penguin Books, 1970), p. 266.
3. Ibid., pp. 31, 26.
4. Samuel Katz, Battleground: Fact and Fantasy in Palestine (New York, 1973), p. 88.
5. Avraham Yaari, 1grot Eretz Yisrael (Tel Aviv, 1943), p. 46; see F. Nau, "Sur la synagogue de Rabbat Moab (422), et un mouvement sioniste favorisk par l'imperatrice Eudocie (438), d'apres la vie de Barsauma le Syrien," Journal Asiatique, LIX (1927), pp. 189-192.
6. A. MaIamat, H. Tadmor, M. Stern, S. Safrai, Toledot Am Yisrael Bi'mei Kedem (Tel Aviv, 1969), p. 348, cited by Katz, Battleground, p. 88.
7. Parkes, Whose LandZ p. 72.
8. Ibid.; also see S.D. Goitein, A Mediterranean Society, 3 vols. (Berkeley, Los Angeles, London, 1971), vol. 2, p. 61 the main synagogue [in Ramle] was the Palestinian."
9. Al-Waqidy, ninth-century Arab historian, recorded a Jewish-settled area in Jericho in the seventh century and "there are other references to Jewish communal life in Jericho as late as the ninth century." Cited by Itzhak Ben-Zvi, The Exiled and the Redeemed (Philadelphia, 1961), p. 146.
10. Ben-Zvi, The Exiled, pp. 144-145. The Nadhir and Kainuka Arabian-Jewish tribes' "battles for their survival ... is found in Dr. Israel Ben-Zeev's remarkable book, Jews in Arabia, " Ben-Zvi states.
11. Israel Ben Zeev, Jews in Arabia, cited by Ben-Zvi, The Exiled, p. 145.
12. Ben-Zvi, The Exiled, p. 145. Ben-Zvi cites Arabian historian Al-Waqidy, as reported in Ben-Zeev, Jews in Arabia.
13. Ibid., p. 146. Ben-Zvi states that some Jews who could "produce letters of protection and treaties signed by or on behalf of the Prophet" were permitted to remain. "...there is reason to believe that these surviving Jewish communities were maintained intact until the twelfth century."
14. Quoted from SheikhAbd Allah Al Meshad, "Jews' Attitudes Towards Islam and Muslims in the First Islamic Era," in D.F. Green, ed., Arab Theologians on Jews and Israel (Geneva, 197 1), p. 22. Darwaza, "The Attitude of the Jews Towards
15. Quoted from Muhammad Azzah nto Him]-at the Islam, Muslims and the Prophet of Islam-P.B.U.H. [Peace Be Unto Him] - at the time of His Honourable Prophethood," in ibid., pp. 29-30.
16. Ben-Zvi, The Exiled, pp. 146-147 the existence of which we have records."
17. Parkes, Whose Land?, pp. 97-99.
18. Ibid., p. 110.
19. Martin Gilbert, Exile and Return, The Strugglefor a Jewish Homeland (Philadelphia and New York, 1978), p. 17. "In 1322 Jewish geographer from Florence, Ashtory Ha-Parhi, had settled in the Jezreel Valley where he wrote a book on the topography of Palestine....
20. Ibid., pp. 17-19. Elijah of Ferrara.
21. Parkes, Whose Land?, p. I 11.
22. Gilbert, Exile, p. 17.
23. Ibid., p. 21. 24. Ibid. For a more detailed account, see Joachim Prinz, The Secret Jews (New York, 1973), p. 147ff

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

Me again.....

OK, i'm trying to understand this better.

When the UN decided to deliver a homeland for Jews, did they ot encounter oppostion then? And was it not put to the Palestinians that resided there at that time? Or was it all forced upon them. Please explain as i don't konw much about the past.

 

[lavikor201]

When the UN decided to deliver a homeland for Jews, did they ot encounter oppostion then? And was it not put to the Palestinians that resided there at that time?

Very simple, there was a Palestine mandate, and the UN wished to divide up the land into two. 80% of the land would go to the Arabs, (now Jordan) and 20% to the Jews who numbered 4 million at this point. The Jews accepted, and Arabs rejected, but the resolution was passed. All the Jews who were in the territory given to Jordan left. All the Arabs in Jewish areas, many left because advancing armies told them to, and then to come back when every Jew died. Well, the jews survived and won.

The Jews helped and harbored all the Jews who were kicked out of the 80% given to Arabs... And the 800,000 many expeled and forced to leave or discriminated against by Arab anti-jewish sentiments.

The Arabs in Jordan and all over the Middle East, never harbored the arabs in the 20% jewish land. The Jews actually offered for them to stay if they would ally with them but they did not, the ones who did live happy lives in Israel, vote in elections, have Muslim members of congress ect. Many get free education because Israel wishes to provide opurtunity for them!

The Arab world continues to keep the rest in refugee camps and keep the ill feelings in them to continue there struggle.

Well many wars later, the Arabs not only lost all of the wars they initiated, but lost land to.

Oh yeah, *cough*, under UN terms Jerusalem was to be an international city. Arabs took control, expelled Jews, and did not allow worship at the Western Wall.

Now Israel owns the city, and they allow full control of Islams 3RD holiest site to Muslims. Who sounds more discriminatory?

 

[sister herb]

Did You Knew That?


1 - THAT, when the Palestine Problem was created by Britain in 1917, more than 90% of the population of Palestine were Arabs, and that there were at that time no more than 56,000 Jews in Palestine?

2 - THAT, more than half of the Jews living in Palestine at that time were recent immigrants, who had come to Palestine in the preceding decades in order to escape persecution in Europe?... And that less than 5% of the population of Palestine were native Palestinian Jews?

3 - THAT, the Arabs of Palestine at that time owned 97.5% of the land, while Jews (native Palestinians and recent immigrants together) owned only 2.5% of the land?

4 - THAT, during the thirty years of British occupation and rule, the Zionists were able to purchase only 3.5% of the land of Palestine, in spite of the encouragement of the British Government?... And that much of this land was transferred to Zionist bodies by the British Government directly, and was not sold by Arab owners?

5 - THAT, therefore, when British passed the Palestine Problem to the United Nations in 1947, Zionists owned no more than 6% of the total land area of Palestine?

6 - THAT, notwithstanding these facts, the General Assembly of the United Nations recommended that a "Jewish State" be established in Palestine?... And that the Assembly granted that proposed "State" about 54% of the total area of the country?

7 - THAT, Israel immediately occupied (and still occupies) 80.48% of the total land area of Palestine?

http://www.rense.com/general31/didyouknow.htm

No, you didn´t know this before. ffended:

 

[lavikor201]

1 - THAT, when the Palestine Problem was created by Britain in 1917, more than 90% of the population of Palestine were Arabs, and that there were at that time no more than 56,000 Jews in Palestine?

How many Arabs were in "Palestine" when you go back a little more in history. Lets say 830 BCE? Did you consider that Arabs possibly immigrated to the Holy Land in the same manner Jews did at one point in history?

2 - THAT, more than half of the Jews living in Palestine at that time were recent immigrants, who had come to Palestine in the preceding decades in order to escape persecution in Europe?... And that less than 5% of the population of Palestine were native Palestinian Jews?

And? Big deal, are you saying that Muslims have never created an "Islamic country" by becoming a majoirty population through immigration and other means? Your crazy if you do not think so.

3 - THAT, the Arabs of Palestine at that time owned 97.5% of the land, while Jews (native Palestinians and recent immigrants together) owned only 2.5% of the land?

Provide fact. Where are the recipts? The proof of Jewishe xistance in the Holy Land is evident through archeology, showing Jewish life in palestine way before Arabs came onto the scene.

4 - THAT, during the thirty years of British occupation and rule, the Zionists were able to purchase only 3.5% of the land of Palestine, in spite of the encouragement of the British Government?... And that much of this land was transferred to Zionist bodies by the British Government directly, and was not sold by Arab owners?

Please show proof. I know those figures are inaccurate by the way. Just curious to who made them up.

5 - THAT, therefore, when British passed the Palestine Problem to the United Nations in 1947, Zionists owned no more than 6% of the total land area of Palestine?

That is including Jordan 80% of the area. It is far greater, when you actually present correct facts, and just include the 20% mandate given to Jews.

6 - THAT, notwithstanding these facts, the General Assembly of the United Nations recommended that a "Jewish State" be established in Palestine?... And that the Assembly granted that proposed "State" about 54% of the total area of the country?

Actually it was only 20% look at the map of the British madate, and the land area. If you know simple math it is an easy calculation.

7 - THAT, Israel immediately occupied (and still occupies) 80.48% of the total land area of Palestine?

Untrue. Israel had Jewish residence way before Christian and Arabs came in and took the land. Are you so bold to attack Israel for being a country, wif so by your logic, return Mecca to its rightful owner, the pagans! That is who owned it before war.

 

[lavikor201]

1. 630,000 Palestinian, and 820,000 Jewish, refugees were produced by the 1948 war, which was launched by Palestinians, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon against Israel.

2. The Jewish refugees - from Muslim countries - were absorbed (590,000 in Israel), as were millions of European refugees in the aftermath of WWII. In contrast, Palestinian refugees have been confined to camps, by Arab and PLO leaders, fomenting terrorism. None of the financial aid received by the PLO, from the US and other countries, has been directed at the refugee camps!

3. 810,000 Arabs resided in Israel (defined by the 1949 ceasefire lines) on November 30, 1947. At the end of the war there were 168,000 Arabs in Israel (including 14,000 Bedouins, down from 66,000 before the war). Considering the 1%-2% war fatalities (Israel lost 1% of its people!), the 52,000 displaced Bedouins, who joined tribes in Jordan and Sinai, the Palestinians who rejoined their families in Lebanon and Syria (please see below) and the wealthy Palestinians who were resettled in the Mideast and in other parts of the globe, the actual number of Palestinians in refugee camps, in 1949, was no more than 550,000!

4. Many Palestinians are descendants of Egyptian, Sudanese, Syrian and Lebanese migrants, who settled in the current boundaries of Israel during 1830-1945. Migration by Arab citizens of the Ottoman Empire did not require any permit until WWI. Migrant workers were imported by the Ottoman and (since 1919) by the British authorities for infrastructure projects: The port of Haifa, the Haifa-Qantara, Haifa-Edrei, Haifa-Nablus and Jerusalem-Jaffa railroads, military installations, roads, quarries, reclamation of wetlands, etc. Illegal Arab laborers were also attracted by the relative boom, stimulated by Jewish immigration, which expanded labor-intensive enterprises (construction, agriculture, etc.).

5. The (1831-1840) conquest, by Egypt's Mohammed Ali, was solidified by thousands of Egyptians settling empty spaces between Gaza and Tul-Karem up to the Hula Valley. They followed in the footsteps of Egyptian draft dodgers, who fled Egypt before 1831. The British traveler, H.B. Tristram, identified Egyptian migrants in the Beit-Shean Valley, Acre, Hadera, Netanya and Jaffa. The British Palestine Exploration Fund indicated that Egyptian neighborhoods proliferated in and around Jaffa: Saknet el-Mussariya, Abu Kebir, Abu Derwish, Sumeil, Sheikh Muwanis, Salame', Fejja, etc. Many of those who fled in 1948 attempted to reunite with their families of origin.

6. "30,000-36,000 Syrian migrants (Huranis) entered Palestine during the last few months alone" (La Syrie daily, August 12, 1934). Syrian rulers have always considered the area as a southern province of Greater Syria. Az-ed-Din el-Qassam, the role-model of Hamas terrorism, who terrorized Jews in British Mandate Palestine, was a Syrian, as were Said el-A'az, a leader of the 1936-38 anti-Jewish pogroms and Kaukji, the commander-in-chief of the Arab mercenaries terrorizing Jews in the thirties and forties.

7. Tristram, and other travelers, identified over 15 Arab nationalities who settled in Jaffa. Libyan migrants and refugees settled in Gedera, south of Tel Aviv. Algerian refugees (Mugrabis), escaping the French conquest of 1830, settled in Safed, Tiberias and other parts of the Galilee. Their leader, Abd el-Kader el-Hasseini, headquartered in Syria! Circassian refugees, fleeing Russian oppression (1878), Moslems from Bosnia, Turkomans, Yemenite Arabs (1908) and Bedouin tribes from Jordan (escaping wars and famine) diversified Arab demography there. The aforementioned data are contained in the book The Claim Of Dispossession (Arieh Avneri, 1982) and in From Time Immemorial (Joan Peters, Harper, 1984).

8. Habib Issa, Secretary General of the Arab League: In 1948, Azzam Pasha, the former Secretary General, "assured Arabs that the occupation of Palestine, including Tel Aviv, would be as simple as a military promenade...Brotherly advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes and property, and to stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states." (Al-Hoda Lebanese daily, New York, June 8, 1951).

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