Ceasefire is active in Holy Land

[AvarAllahNoor]

Very simple, there was a Palestine mandate, and the UN wished to divide up the land into two. 80% of the land would go to the Arabs, (now Jordan) and 20% to the Jews who numbered 4 million at this point. The Jews accepted, and Arabs rejected, but the resolution was passed. All the Jews who were in the territory given to Jordan left. All the Arabs in Jewish areas, many left because advancing armies told them to, and then to come back when every Jew died. Well, the jews survived and won.

The Jews helped and harbored all the Jews who were kicked out of the 80% given to Arabs... And the 800,000 many expeled and forced to leave or discriminated against by Arab anti-jewish sentiments.

The Arabs in Jordan and all over the Middle East, never harbored the arabs in the 20% jewish land. The Jews actually offered for them to stay if they would ally with them but they did not, the ones who did live happy lives in Israel, vote in elections, have Muslim members of congress ect. Many get free education because Israel wishes to provide opurtunity for them!

The Arab world continues to keep the rest in refugee camps and keep the ill feelings in them to continue there struggle.

Well many wars later, the Arabs not only lost all of the wars they initiated, but lost land to.

Oh yeah, *cough*, under UN terms Jerusalem was to be an international city. Arabs took control, expelled Jews, and did not allow worship at the Western Wall.

Now Israel owns the city, and they allow full control of Islams 3RD holiest site to Muslims. Who sounds more discriminatory?

Is this true to the Muslims i ask?? (Have to be unbaised you see )

If so, then i'd say the Arabs were very unjust and didn't handle this at all well. How many arab lands are there?? 20? 30? 40? Many more than any Jews got (1) - Palestinas have fought over this for many years, had they spent more time on building their own country then, it would be just as nice as Israel is today! No?

Also Fatah (Arafats Gov) had millions in swiss banks, why was this not spent on the palestians? Something tells me, this constant upheavel between the two countries is benefitting somebody financially. Hence peace would not be welcomed by the perpetrators!

 

[abdmez]

Is this true to the Muslims i ask??

Partially. As an Arab Muslim in Palestine, I must say it is insulting to hear someone say that every Arab left voluntarily, but it is true a majority did leave because the "call" made for people to leave bcause everyone who remained would not be differentiated between Jew and Muslim I believe (a lot of arab jews live in israel)

What is true is that Israel did harbor the Jews from Arab lands, but let me ask you, because of Arabs did injustice to Jews, should the Jews expect Arabs to leave as well, and go to Arab countries? It seems unfair, and my family stayed. I have a generally good life here, but the conflict rages on, and it is hard to side with one side because I believe they are both wrong.

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

Partially. As an Arab Muslim in Palestine, I must say it is insulting to hear someone say that every Arab left voluntarily, but it is true a majority did leave because the "call" made for people to leave bcause everyone who remained would not be differentiated between Jew and Muslim I believe (a lot of arab jews live in israel)

What is true is that Israel did harbor the Jews from Arab lands, but let me ask you, because of Arabs did injustice to Jews, should the Jews expect Arabs to leave as well, and go to Arab countries? It seems unfair, and my family stayed. I have a generally good life here, but the conflict rages on, and it is hard to side with one side because I believe they are both wrong.

What will ease the tensions do you think? And please be realistic

Palestinians refuse to aknowledge Israel, how is that the right way to go about things?

 

[Fishman]

To respond to Lavikor, Zionism is a movement which calls for the colonisation of Palestine. Like economic colonialism, the original zionist movements had no respect for the native inhabitants (people living there at the time) of the land, and viewed them as just another problem to get over.

Don't get me wrong here. I do not dispute the right of Jews to live in their ehtnic and spiritual homeland. If the zionists simply wanted Jews to immigrate to Palestine to enjoy the country and get away from the persecutions of Europe, then I would have supported them. But those are not the only aims of zionism. Zionism is a malicious attempt to steal a country off it's inhabitants, under the guise of legitimate immigration.

I do not hate Jews either. If I ruled an Islamic state I would give them special protection from persecution and riots, and certainly have let them have access to the Western Wall. The Prophet (pbuh) stood up out of respect at the funeral of a Jew, and he supported some persecuted Christians as well.

 

[IzakHalevas]

the original zionist movements had no respect for the native inhabitants

Did the conquerers not do the same thing to the Jews? Are you arrogant enough to say that no Jew was every displaced because of Arab conquests of the Holy Land which was majority until invaders came in.

Or are you under the false pretense that Islam has always been a majority in the Holy land and they never occupied the land which belonged to someone else in the first place.

 

[GARY]

But I do oppose people who conspire to take over a country by mass-immigration

So, you have something in common with the BNP.

I agree, I oppose mass immigration as well.

 

[eagleye]

the ones who did live happy lives in Israel, vote in elections, have Muslim members of congress ect. Many get free education because Israel wishes to provide opurtunity for them!

too true to believe IMO, that all who do live in Israel, are very be enthusiastic. I read that were Israeli-citizen-Muslims who aid terrorists.
perhaps they are not very much happy how the system works...?