Cheating

τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1319115 said:
you really have no way of knowing whether someone is a virgin or not after marriage.. yes I am aware of all the blah blahs about hymens and whatnot when you finish medicine you'll come up with a different understanding of that!

so as br. said it will have to come down to trust.. do you trust the person you are marrying or not, also considering that there is such a thing as 'V rejuvenation' thirty minute procedure that practically every woman who has had three kids or more seems to want to have to put the spark back in her life for three more!

:w:
lol ...

jazakAllah for that response.
 
Forgiveness is important not only for the other person, but also for ourselves. When we forgive, we release the poisonous thing. To hold a grudge and harbor ill for another is like a poison to the body and the mind. When you release it and forgive another then you have gained freedom. When you forgive another you have also released them from their burden. This does not mean that they are not held accountable for their sin or that you should allow the person to take advantage of you. Only God can forgive them of their sin and wipe it away.
You are right!
Forgiveness is important.

Sounds like you're a strong lady for having a heart that knows to forgive.


I don't know that someone would confess to cheating either. I think that I have only met one man in my lifetime who said to me that his marriage ended because he messed up and cheated.
Though, I do agree that it was admirable of him to confess the sin, I wonder how he could do it again. By your sentence I understand that he cheated on his first wife and then he cheated on you, also?
How can a repentant man do that again?
Sorry if I'm getting into details about your personal life. This is not my intention. I'm trying to understand how people say they regret something and do it again.
 
Are you serious?? lol.

yep :shade:, if you commit adultery and get caught, the punishement is stoning to death

if you're not married then its 100 lashes

it just shows the emphasis we have in islam of chastity, modesty and rights
 
yep :shade:, if you commit adultery and get caught, the punishement is stoning to death

if you're not married then its 100 lashes

it just shows the emphasis we have in islam of chastity, modesty and rights
Oh my God, but does Q'uran allow punishment to death? Doesn't Q'uran prohibit killing people no matter what mistake they did? Shouldn't the punishment be left to God??


That's not fair, to me.
 
Though, I do agree that it was admirable of him to confess the sin, I wonder how he could do it again. By your sentence I understand that he cheated on his first wife and then he cheated on you, also?
How can a repentant man do that again?
Sorry if I'm getting into details about your personal life. This is not my intention. I'm trying to understand how people say they regret something and do it again.


No, you misunderstood. I only said that I have known one man in my life who confessed to his infidelity ending his marriage. I did not marry that man. I would not marry someone who I knew had previous problems with infidelity, no matter how much I respect them for confessing their wrong doing.
 
Oh my God, but does Q'uran allow punishment to death? Doesn't Q'uran prohibit killing people no matter what mistake they did? Shouldn't the punishment be left to God??


That's not fair, to me.

are you God? what is fair to you and what is not is a matter of whims and desires. If that was the truth, we would not need any God.
 
Oh my God, but does Q'uran allow punishment to death? Doesn't Q'uran prohibit killing people no matter what mistake they did? Shouldn't the punishment be left to God??


That's not fair, to me.

Again its only if you get caught, the punishment removes your sin. The punishment is carried out in islamic states, but its extremely rare probably non existent.

The punishment is prescribed by god in the Qur'an

This is Justice by Allah and I think its fair, adultery and fornication are major sins, they ruin families, societies and effective punishment helps prevent it.
 
are you God?
Yes.

Also, you didn't answer to my questions because you don't know how to answer.
If Q'uran prohibits killing people, and on the other side commands people to kill/punish the cheaters, then no doubt why many religious person are hypocrites, just like the Holy book they are brainwashed by.
 
Again its only if you get caught, the punishment removes your sin. The punishment is carried out in islamic states, but its extremely rare probably non existent.

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I thought this punishment is applied every time there is a cheating partner in a couple.
 
are you God?
Yes.

Also, you didn't answer to my questions because you don't know how to answer.
If Q'uran prohibits killing people, and on the other side commands people to kill/punish the cheaters, then no doubt why many religious person are hypocrites, just like the Holy book they are brainwashed by.

This punishment is not murder, its not carried out by any random person its done by the state
 
are you God?
Yes.

Also, you didn't answer to my questions because you don't know how to answer.
If Q'uran prohibits killing people, and on the other side commands people to kill/punish the cheaters, then no doubt why many religious person are hypocrites, just like the Holy book they are brainwashed by.

yes. you are right. By God I do not know how to answer stupid illogical questions.
 
are you God?

This punishment is not murder, its not carried out by any random person its done by the state
And the state is made of normal people like everyone else. People who commit sins and make mistakes like all of us. This doesn't make them more special and doesn't give them the right to punish through death.
If Q'uran allows punishment through death, then clearly it's being contradictory when saying that God has the right to punish those who sin.
 
And the state is made of normal people like everyone else. People who commit sins and make mistakes like all of us. This doesn't make them more special and doesn't give them the right to punish through death.
If Q'uran allows punishment through death, then clearly it's being contradictory when saying that God has the right to punish those who sin.

You're a bit confused nothing is being contradicted here, Allah has commanded us to carry out this punishment if caught, but only an islamic state can do it
 
this must be some sort of wind up?............what's going on in here?

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Elly, let me answer your questions before this thread deteriorates further ...

- What would you do if your husband/wife cheated on you? Would you forgive them?
It's difficult to say, because I have never been in that situation.
But I have a wonderful life with my husband and children.
If my husband cheated on me once, I think I would probably be able to forgive him and continue with our life together.

If he continued to cheat on me, then it would probably affect our family life and marriage to such an extend, that we could not continue in our relationship together.

- Would you marry someone who has cheated a husband/wife/partner before?
Don't know.

- Have you ever been cheated / Did you ever cheat?
No. My husband and I have been faithful to each other for 24 years.

Only yesterday we were chatting and saying how amazing it really is to be faithful to one partner throughout life, given that the world population is more than 6 billion! :statisfie
 
Oh my God, but does Q'uran allow punishment to death? Doesn't Q'uran prohibit killing people no matter what mistake they did? Shouldn't the punishment be left to God??

you are misinderstanding ^^ let me please explain this and clear it out to you , by the way most of answers are based in opinions without real knowledge

i will give you an example like cutting the hand if someone steals,when you read it and have no knowledge about it you would be scared, wouldnt you?^^ but under this rule

you have many things actually, if they catch the stealer there are many things they have to deal with,like the things that have been stolen have to be expensive and there have to be no problems
between the stealer and the victim.for example if the stealer stole something because the victim have some problems with him or he orders him money or anything like that then there will be no punishment.If the victim does not care about his money or his stuff.For example if he put his money in a taple in the restaurant and show it for all people or if he does something that makes the stealer thinks to steal or any things like that,then there will be no punishment.If the victim forgives him its fine.However there are many things i really forgot because i studied it when i was in high school in Saudi Arabia.i can tell you 99% of stealers,their hands are not cutting down,its just to scare them and let them think ^^

let us move to cheating,its the same things, its to scare people and prevent them from doing that.I will give you some things that have to be done before they judge

first of all.there have to be 3 witnesses ant these 3 witnesses have to see the boy or the girl in their eyes,not just because they see them naked, its not enough,even if they see them
kissing each others it still not enough and they will be asked a question what did you see exaaaaactly,each one of them will be asked alone,if there is a very small contradiction then there will be no punishment ^^ and these witnesses have to be good people and righteous and they have no bad history.Actually the things i just mentioned you know its impossible really
you will never have these things except for few very few.

i will tell you a story of the prophet mohammed so that you may understand . a woman came to the prophet peace be upon him and told him i did zina she was mohsanah wich means married
and the prophet mohammed did not respond and she repeted it and the prophet was kindful he does not want to do it and he did try that the woman may just go back then the woman said please i want to clean my sin and i am pregnant from that and she also said do you want to reject me as you reject maez then the prophet respond and said go until you he or she gets born,
after that she came back and said ok this is the child i want you to clean my sin completely and he looked at the child and said go back and take care of him until he grow up then she came back and ask him and he did it because she wants it to clean the sin completely.

i hope you get the clear answer,there is no singal contradiction in the quran the problem is that you are talking without knoeledge ^^ so please be careful before you judge

there are many kind of sins in islam some are high some are low

high like,if you kill other person then there will be a punishment in this life because its a big sin, and it causes a lot of problems if there is no strict punishment for it. sounds good?
and if you want to remove the sin so that there will be no punishment in the hereafter like zina.

low, you can just ask for forgiveness and God willing it will be accepted

i suggest that you learn,it might give you better understanding in many aspects in islam

i hope this is helpful and sorry for my bad English ^^




That's not fair, to me.
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