Christ in the Three Abrahamic Faiths

[Burninglight]

But John the Baptist was also humble. He did not claim that greatness for himself. He spoke of a greater one who was to come after him. He is quoted as saying:
After me will come one more powerful than I, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and untie (Mark 1:7)

So the Prophets never claimed this kind of superiority. This is the work of human beings who attribute to Prophets what they did not teach.

Don't you find it a little strange that this huge doctrine of Christ's divinty was never explicityl mentioned by any of the Prophets? Don't you find it strange that you have to base this entire doctrine of the inferences made from a few verses in the later passages of the Bible?

It is not strange to me. I find it strange that you cannot see that John was considered the greatest of all prophets next to Jesus. But if John was the greatest prophets and was not worthy to tie Jesus sandel, then, how great is Jesus? Jesus is the Prophet of prophets; Lord of lords. He is the last Adam. It is written, "Kiss the son lest you perish from the way when His wrath is kindle but a little"

A greater distinction beween Jesus and any other prophet could not be thought up if one tried. If there is this wide gulf between Jesus and everyone else, it must of been that God had a greater purpose for Jesus as well.

I absolutely believe this to be true.

 

[Hamza Asadullah]

It is not strange to me. I find it strange that you cannot see that John was considered the greatest of all prophets next to Jesus. But if John was the greatest prophets and was not worthy to tie Jesus sandel, then, how great is Jesus? Jesus is the Prophet of prophets; Lord of lords. He is the last Adam. It is written, "Kiss the son lest you perish from the way when His wrath is kindle but a little"
I absolutely believe this to be true.

Noah, Abraham and Moses were greater Prophets than John the Baptist.

You say Jesus is the lord of lords? You said previously that you only worship the father as he is the lord of lords and now you are giving this title to his alleged "son".

You also said you do not make up anything that is not from the Bible then what does God and Jesus state that Jesus is the "lord of all lords"? Where does God and Jesus state that Jesus was the last Adam?

You are making things up which were never taught by God or Jesus. You keep contradicting yourself. You also have admitted that you dont understand why you would worship the son but you df o anywsy even though God and Jesus never even mentioned nor taught such a thing. Why do you believe random men whos origins are unknown (gospels) over the words and teachings of God and Christ.

You will not have any excuses on the day of judgement when you will face the wrath of your creator for worshipping other than him. That is unforgivable in the eyes of God and monotheism was taught by EVERY Prophet from Adam to Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh). They all had the same message to their people which was to establish the true oneness of God.

The paganistic concept of God manifesting himself as "3" was NEVER taught by any Prophet, nor was it taught in the explicit words of God or Jesus but you would rather believe such blasphemys by referring to random men in the Gospels who had never met nor had anything to do with Jesus or God.

The truth and falsehood are clear but you are too blind to see reality.

 

[Burninglight]

Noah, Abraham and Moses were greater Prophets than John the Baptist.

No

You say Jesus is the lord of lords? You said previously that you only worship the father as he is the lord of lords and now you are giving this title to his alleged "son".

You also said you do not make up anything that is not from the Bible then what does God and Jesus state that Jesus is the "lord of all lords"? Where does God and Jesus state that Jesus was the last Adam?

Paul calls him the last Adam. I can say the same to you. Show me where Allah says "say not three" Just like you believe that Muhammad was inspiried by Gabriel so the apostles were inspiried by God, So anything the disciples of Jesus wrote it is like God said to us. Paul was an apostle of Jesus by divine revelation!

It is written: "The preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness, but unto us that are being saved, it is the power of God"

 

[Hamza Asadullah]

No
Paul calls him the last Adam. I can say the same to you. Show me where Allah says "say not three" Just like you believe that Muhammad was inspiried by Gabriel so the apostles were inspiried by God, So anything the disciples of Jesus wrote it is like God said to us. Paul was an apostle of Jesus by divine revelation!

It is written: "The preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness, but unto us that are being saved, it is the power of God"

Was I not clear enough when I asked you to provide proof from the WORD AND TEACHINGS OF GOD AND JESUS. Not from a man who never met Jesus nor had anything to do with him. It is clear that whenever you are asked for proof you can only cite unauthentic unreliable sources like the gospels because none of your false beliefs are backed up by the words and teachings of God and Christ.

How can you compare Paul to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)? Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)recieved divine revelation (the Quran) which is a true miracle and scholars confirm that not one contradiction, incon sd istency or adfitions or deletions can be found and the original language is always there for vetification. He was also given Prophethood. He is CLEARLY mentioned in the Quran as God commanded us to follow his way as he is the perfect example unto mankind.

Whereas Paul had nothing to do with Jesus nor did he ever directly meet him. Paul is NOT mentioned ANYWHERE in the words and teaching of Jesus or God. So there is no compulsion on any Christian to follow a random man who is merely a self proclaimed Prophet. There is NO comparison at all.

 

[Burninglight]

Was I not clear enough when I asked you to provide proof from the WORD AND TEACHINGS OF GOD AND JESUS. Not from a man who never met Jesus nor had anything to do with him. It is clear that whenever you are asked for proof you can only cite unauthentic unreliable sources like the gospels because none of your false beliefs are backed up by the words and teachings of God and Christ.

I thought you meant prove it with Scripture

 

[Ramadhan]

I thought you meant prove it with Scripture

Prove it using Jesus (pbuh) ACTUAL words.

you cannot do that, can you?

 

[Hamza Asadullah]

I thought you meant prove it with Scripture

Scripture = The word and teachings of God and the Prophet of the scripture NOT the word and teachings of random men whos identities and the books were written at an unknown time in history.