Church of Scientology Convicted in France

[tetsujin]

Isn't that the whole point?

I fail to see how it is. If an argument or point can be made, it doesn't need my anecdotal experience to make it valid. You can address that alone.

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ عَلَيْكُمْ أَنفُسَكُمْ لاَ يَضُرُّكُم مَّن ضَلَّ إِذَا اهْتَدَيْتُمْ إِلَى اللّهِ مَرْجِعُكُمْ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمْ تَعْمَلُونَ {105}​

[SIZE=-1][Pickthal 5:105] O ye who believe! Ye have charge of your own souls. He who erreth cannot injure you if ye are rightly guided. Unto Allah ye will all return; and then He will inform you of what ye used to do.[/SIZE]


So actually it is the general response of what I personally believe to be divine revelation. It really shouldn't and doesn't matter who believes and who doesn't as each soul is held in pledge by its own deeds!
If religion isn't for you, you can and I believe you have walked away rendering all your points on this thread moot!

You missed the point precisely. A new religious movement is not distinguishable from a "cult", but only in hindsight. Scientology is as bizarre today to an outsider as any established religion during its formative years.

You are telling me you have no concern for this forum, yet here you are replying to a thread that didn't address you nor does the subject matter concern you on any level.. should I take that as conscious design apathy?

I've said nothing of that sort. You must take my arguments at face value, as I do when I start my posts.

The problem is we don't know what your baseline is or how you define your boundaries or what the terms actually denote to you as a person!

Again, that doesn't matter. If an argument or point can be made, it doesn't need my anecdotal experience to make it valid.

All the best,


Faysal

 

[جوري]

I fail to see how it is. If an argument or point can be made, it doesn't need my anecdotal experience to make it valid. You can address that alone.

What is the point you are trying to make? I am not into guessing.. I only work with what you wrote, it wasn't that cryptic for me to misconstrue it into other than what it is!

You missed the point precisely. A new religious movement is not distinguishable from a "cult", but only in hindsight. Scientology is as bizarre today to an outsider as any established religion during its formative years.

There is nothing 'religious' about their movement.. and obviously my views is that all folks are born on fitrah and that religion (as we monotheists) understand without the minor variants that distinguish each has always been.. it is satisfactory to both the heart and mind without anything bizarre, new or outlandish about it.. and it doesn't include batteries and alien spaceships.. thus your contrast and analogies again fail very short

I've said nothing of that sort. You must take my arguments at face value, as I do when I start my posts.

So which is it, you care to impose your presence on an Islamic forum and in posts where you weren't specifically invited, or you are AWOL and don't like to spend your free time here?

Again, that doesn't matter. If an argument or point can be made, it doesn't need my anecdotal experience to make it valid.

All the best,

Anecdotal? I have no idea what you are trying to say here.. do you have standards or you don't and what are they? Vacillation of principles doesn't interest me and isn't suitable when engaging in a topic specific to clearly characterized definitions.

 

[Raphael]

GS - I wanted to ask what you meant by your signature.

"for the believer no amount of proof is necessary"

I'm not sure whether this is a compliment or a gross insult! opcorn:

 

[جوري]

it has no complimentary value ................

 

[Raphael]

Thought so, just checking.

 

[AlHoda]

You still did not explain what scientology is? :/

 

[ardianto]

You still did not explain what scientology is? :/

Click links in post #9 (page 1).

Those are information about their organization, the founder and their 'holly book'.