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Crackdown in Iran over dress codes
By Frances Harrison
BBC News, Tehran

Thousands of Iranian women have been cautioned over their poor Islamic dress this week and several hundred arrested in the capital Tehran in the most fierce crackdown on what's known as "bad hijab" for more than a decade.

It is the talk of the town. The latest police crackdown on Islamic dress has angered many Iranians - male, female, young and old.

But Iranian TV has reported that an opinion poll conducted in Tehran found 86% of people were in favour of the crackdown - a statistic that is surprising given the strength of feeling against this move.

Police cars are stationed outside major shopping centres in Tehran. They are stopping pedestrians and even cars - warning female drivers not show any hair - and impounding the vehicles and arresting the women if they argue back.

Middle-aged women, foreign tourists and journalists have all been harassed, not just the young and fashionably dressed.

Individual choice

Overnight the standard of what is acceptable dress has slipped back.
I want the whole world to know that they oppress us and all we can do is put up with it
Tofiq, 15

Hard-won freedoms - like the right to wear a colourful headscarf - have been snatched away.

It may sound trivial but Iranian women have found ways of expressing their individuality and returning to drab colours like black, grey and dark blue is not something they will accept easily.

"If we want to do something we will do it anyway, all this is total nonsense," says a young girl, heavily made up and dressed up.

She believes Islamic dress should be something personal - whether you're swathed in a black chador or dressed in what she calls "more normal clothes".

Interestingly many women who choose to wear the all enveloping chador agree - saying it's a personal choice and shouldn't be forced on people.

"This year is much worse than before because the newspapers and the TV have given the issue a lot of coverage compared to last year; it wasn't this bad before," says Shabnam who's out shopping with her friend.

Permission denied

At the start of every summer the police say they will enforce the Islamic dress code, but this year has been unusually harsh.

Thousands of women have been cautioned by police over their dress, some have been obliged to sign statements that they will do better in the future, and some face court cases against them.

Though the authorities want coverage internally to scare women - they don't want the story broadcast abroad.

The BBC's cameraman was detained when he tried to film the police at work and the government denied us permission to go on patrol with the police.

"Really we don't have any security," complains Shabam's friend Leyla.

"Since we came out this morning many people we met have continuously warned us to be careful about our headscarves and to wear them further forward because they are arresting women who are dressed like this," she says.

Boutique owners are furious. Some shops have been sealed - others warned not to sell tight revealing clothing.

One shopkeeper selling evening dresses told us the moral police had ordered him to saw off the breasts of his mannequins because they were too revealing.

He said he wasn't the only shop to receive this strange instruction.

Respect

There's even been less traffic on the streets because some women are not venturing out - fearful they will be harassed.

And it's not even safe in a car. Taxi agencies have received a circular warning them not to carry a "bad hijabi".

"They have said we shouldn't carry passengers who wear bad Islamic dress and if we do we have to warn them to respect the Islamic dress code even inside the car," said one taxi driver.

And it's not just women who are being targeted this year. Young men are being cautioned for wearing short sleeved shirts or for their hairstyles.

Morad - a hairdresser whose gelled hair is made to stand straight up - says it's necessary for him to look like this to attract customers.

"These last few days I don't dare walk down the main roads looking like this case I get arrested," he says.

"I use the side streets and alleys."

Morad is scared because his friends have told him they've seen the police seize young men and forcibly cut their hair if it's too long.

Fifteen-year-old Tofiq who'd also gelled his hair to stand on end said he too was afraid but he wasn't going to change.

"I want the whole world to know that they oppress us and all we can do is put up with it," he said.

Some parents have complained that harassing the young over their clothing will only push them to leave the country.

But one MP has said those Iranians who cannot cope with Islamic laws should leave.

Some commentators have suggested that the government is conducting this crackdown to distract attention from the rising cost of living in Iran and increasing tension with the international community over the nuclear issue.

If so, it's a strategy that risks alienating people who've got used to years of relative social freedom and do not want to return to the early days of the revolution when dress rules were much more tightly enforced.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/middle_east/6596933.stm

Published: 2007/04/27 08:28:36 GMT

© BBC MMVII

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Salaam,

pretty sad,they calim to be muslim but choose to go the secualr way..

It is liken to those"moderate muslim" whom are eager to please the western rule of thumb..

they say iYes i am a muslim and Yes i am to wear modestly but wear a bikini.

to prove that Islam is for peace ,and unoppressive,the break the laws of Islam..just to be 'free"

Sad,,,
 
from a western point of view, I would say that this seems wrong and that people should be able to dress how they wish. From an impartial view I have to say, that these people know where they live and these are the laws of the land. The government has every right to enforce these laws and the people should abide by them, if they dont like it they should leave :D
 
I call it a breakthrough in Iran. Finally, the women, for several years controlled, taken from every freedom of speech, now have the guts to fight for their rights.
I mentionned that a few posts ago, but my posts have been deleted by a Mod (for whatever reason).
Every iranian woman leaving Iran and landing in Heathrow Airport rush like crazy to Ladies Room to take of their veils/hijabs and come out with the finest GUCCI Dresses they bought in the Tax-free Shops.
A fresh new wind is coming up in Iran and nobody can stop it, also not by policecars on every corner.
 
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I am curious. Doesn't this crackdown contradict with the following ayah (verse) from the Qur'an (2:256)?

There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tâghût[]and believes in Allâh, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower.


Is the government really acting in an Islamic manner here?

:w:
 
:sl:

I am curious. Doesn't this crackdown contradict with the following ayah (verse) from the Qur'an (2:256)?

There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tâghût[]and believes in Allâh, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower.


Is the government really acting in an Islamic manner here?

:w:



It seems that way to me too.............

Islam calls for women and men to dress a certain way. But that is for them to decide if they are going to follow those teachings. It should not be forced upon you.
 
:sl:

I am curious. Doesn't this crackdown contradict with the following ayah (verse) from the Qur'an (2:256)?

There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tâghût[]and believes in Allâh, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower.


Is the government really acting in an Islamic manner here?

:w:

It seems that way to me too.............

Islam calls for women and men to dress a certain way. But that is for them to decide if they are going to follow those teachings. It should not be forced upon you.

This is what I see as a problem for a country that is ruled from a religious standpoint. On one hand you could applaud iran for actually enforcing the laws that it says it institutes in its land. On the other hand there are Muslims who do not wish to dress a certain way. In any case, whether or not there should be any "compulsion" there always will be if you live in a land that is ruled by Shariah or any other religious law. To me democracy is the only way to go, but these people live in Iran knowing full well that they live there by choice and must abide by the rules, if they dont like it they should leave. Same with anyone who comes to my country and doesnt want to live by the law. You have 3 choices, like it, love it or leave
 
Iran isn't an Islamic State, nor does it rule by Sharia'. I think that's been mentioned many times over on the forum.
 
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When I said 'I am curious' I wasn't being sarcastic, I was genuinely curious.

I'm confused. As brother Fi_Sabilillah said, the Sharia' is not implemented in Iran.

My question: Under Sharia', would a woman be punished if she does not observe the Hijab?


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Assalam alaykum,

Iran does a lot of things contrary to Islam. I still remember clearly the parade of dead american bodies at the US Embassy in the late seventies. I have a hard time accepting that our Prophet, saw, would EVER parade a dead body around. (nor would he take civilians hostage but that's another story for another day :) ).

Iran is clearly afraid of women gaining power in that country.

:sl:

I am curious. Doesn't this crackdown contradict with the following ayah (verse) from the Qur'an (2:256)?

There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tâghût[]and believes in Allâh, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower.


Is the government really acting in an Islamic manner here?

:w:
 
As Islamic State, Iranian Women have the rights (to the highest level possible) to:
1. go schooling + teaching
2. working + running healthy business.
3. sporting including swimming + driving cars
4. practicing fixed time (temporary) marriage that is not allowed in other lands
on the pretext that the 2nd Caliph made it unlawful leaving what God says:
(4:24) Then as to those whom you profit by, give them their dowries as appointed
And there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed.
5. transferable+ non-transferable ownership that is denied even in some western countries.
6. inheretence of Spouse, father, Mother, brothers , sisters ++++

They have NO right to:
1. provoke men with their well-engineered bodies + ?-erecting movements.
2. build many relationships with more than one man at one time.
3. sing and dance in public.

Moreover, they are well-protected: They do not have to work or go (w)hole-selling to live.
They are looked after by the closest relatives first then by God-fearing spouses.

For more details, see the rights of Women in Islam at: ...
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There are the Rules of Islam + the Land : No Sex-Shops, No Cheap TV+Cinema, No Bad Hijab.
Peace + Flowers
 
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As Islamic State, Iranian Women have the rights (to the highest level possible) to:
1. go schooling + teaching
2. working + running healthy business.
3. sporting including swimming + driving cars
4. practicing fixed time (temporary) marriage that is not allowed in other lands
on the pretext that the 2nd Caliph made it unlawful leaving what God says:
(4:24) Then as to those whom you profit by, give them their dowries as appointed
And there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed.
5. transferable+ non-transferable ownership that is denied even in some western countries.
6. inheretence of Spouse, father, Mother, brothers , sisters ++++

They have NO right to:
1. provoke men with their well-engineered bodies + ?-erecting movements.
2. build many relationships with more than one man at one time.
3. sing and dance in public.

Moreover, they are well-protected: They do not have to work or go (w)hole-selling to live.
They are looked after by the closest relatives first then by God-fearing spouses.

For more details, see the rights of Women in Islam at: ...
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There are the Rules of Islam + the Land : No Sex-Shops, No Cheap TV+Cinema, No Bad Hijab.
Peace + Flowers

That's alright then. Let's ban the hijab and niqab and force them to dress the way we dress :) It's alright because they'd still be able to work, go schooling and teaching, run a healthy business, go swimming, drive cars, play football, sing, dance, whatever they desire :)

Who needs to wear the hijab, niqab when you've got all those rights in this country? :D
 
Well England,
1. We — Human beings walk on 2 legs not 4, i.e marks are not hidden?!
2. Forcing females to go half-naked does not save them from men like me.
3. Females are created lovely+shy, once bitten, twice thrown.
4. Hijab is to encourage healthy sex not to suppress it.
5. All the above-mentioned activities are means not goals.
6. Tell me what happens when a child sees parents (Pin)balls?
7. What is the difference between indoors + outdoors?
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Forcing the good is good but forcing the bad is bad?!
Peace + Flowers
 
Well England,
1. We — Human beings walk on 2 legs not 4, i.e marks are not hidden?!
2. Forcing females to go half-naked does not save them from men like me.
3. Females are created lovely+shy, once bitten, twice thrown.
4. Hijab is to encourage healthy sex not to suppress it.
5. All the above-mentioned activities are means not goals.
6. Tell me what happens when a child sees parents (Pin)balls?
7. What is the difference between indoors + outdoors?
_______________________
Forcing the good is good but forcing the bad is bad?!
Peace + Flowers

What you state is what you believe :) We're not muslims. I know alot of women that go out in revealing tops or even a skirt and I don't know ONE that's had been in any problems because of it. None of them have been raped, attacked or anything :rollseyes

In our country the government gives you the freedom to wear what you want. In Iran you don't get a freedom to wear what you want. Whether you're muslim or not you have to cover yourself in a veil even though we don't believe we should. You lot should really stop whining about this Great country of ours. When I look countries like Iran it makes me think of how spoilt people are about this country after emigrating from the middle east. It makes me think "ungrateful...." :)
 
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Just curious Osman am guessing to understand the ayah we turn to the one who recieved it right??

Also, I'd want to say that I think you do get arrested in the UK for walking around naked, so who in reality is to say what level of nudity is allowed.

I know some members iwll think 'Common Sense' others 'Kofy from the UN :p' and others I hope will say the Islamic Faith.

I dont know if what's hapening is supposed to happen but in reality I rather see a place where men and women cover than uncover.
 
As Islamic State, Iranian Women have the rights (to the highest level possible) to:
1. go schooling + teaching
2. working + running healthy business.
3. sporting including swimming + driving cars
4. practicing fixed time (temporary) marriage that is not allowed in other lands
on the pretext that the 2nd Caliph made it unlawful leaving what God says:
(4:24) Then as to those whom you profit by, give them their dowries as appointed
And there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed.
5. transferable+ non-transferable ownership that is denied even in some western countries.
6. inheretence of Spouse, father, Mother, brothers , sisters ++++

They have NO right to:
1. provoke men with their well-engineered bodies + ?-erecting movements.
2. build many relationships with more than one man at one time.
3. sing and dance in public.

Moreover, they are well-protected: They do not have to work or go (w)hole-selling to live.
They are looked after by the closest relatives first then by God-fearing spouses.

For more details, see the rights of Women in Islam at: ...
________________
There are the Rules of Islam + the Land : No Sex-Shops, No Cheap TV+Cinema, No Bad Hijab.
Peace + Flowers

So how do you reconcile this crackdown with no compulsion in religion? Aren't our deeds judged by intent? So if these women who have not yet decided to wear hijab are forced to now, how does this help them? They're still judged by their intent. Or is Iran really not taking into consideration what these women's intent is?:?
 
It's fine if men too are dressing modestly and not taking off t-shirts whilst women are draped in cloth. That's fair I think Equalty and that....
 
Just out of pure curiosity, does the police go around enforcing that all men have beards as well? If not then they should if they're going to do this to the women.
 
As Islamic State, Iranian Women have the rights (to the highest level possible) to:
1. go schooling + teaching
2. working + running healthy business.
3. sporting including swimming + driving cars
4. practicing fixed time (temporary) marriage that is not allowed in other lands
on the pretext that the 2nd Caliph made it unlawful leaving what God says:
(4:24) Then as to those whom you profit by, give them their dowries as appointed
And there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed.
5. transferable+ non-transferable ownership that is denied even in some western countries.
6. inheretence of Spouse, father, Mother, brothers , sisters ++++

They have NO right to:
1. provoke men with their well-engineered bodies + ?-erecting movements.
2. build many relationships with more than one man at one time.
3. sing and dance in public.

Moreover, they are well-protected: They do not have to work or go (w)hole-selling to live.
They are looked after by the closest relatives first then by God-fearing spouses.

For more details, see the rights of Women in Islam at: ...
________________
There are the Rules of Islam + the Land : No Sex-Shops, No Cheap TV+Cinema, No Bad Hijab.
Peace + Flowers

Some people just don't see the good but are quick to judge for anything they perceive as evil when it is not so. Iran is not the only one, malaysia is enforced proper dress code as well. And they are enforcing it on non-muslims too. Why? becuase it is a muslim country that has the right to protect the decency in their land. They were always open and relaxed but it till them chinese women started wearing see thru and other skanky clothes that were just too inappropriate to be ignored. People get out of hand when you give them freedom, look at nude beaches in france and US and other countries. Laws are made to discipline and protect the society. Those who are crying about this news, what have they done to protect or even cry about the oppression against muslim women in the so called liberated and free kuffar nations like UK, France, turkey and other places where you can't even go to school if you have hijaab on.
 
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