Cut..CUT..=Yes/No?!

[qassy!]

:salamext:

^ Look, I don't want to go round in circles. If you don't understand you don't understand. Khalaas.

Theres nothing to understand

 

[truemuslim]

Well let me tell you why I think there beyond help in my opinion
My girlfriend I had, i didn't like her and I said I have 2 stop seeing u she didn't take it well. I didnt think much of it but then 1 week later she cut my name in her body. Now see thats so stupid and I spoke 2 her and shes just giving so many stupid reasons to me.

Thats why in my opinion I believe they have no hope. and in UR opinion they have hope

I think its in human nature to avoid hurting your self. look what people do and Im not saying just girls i am saying about 2 all males and females who harm them selves

also

like im so stressed out with my work atm its 2 much doesnt mean ill start cutting my leg off does it? (ok thats abit extreme)

^ HAHAHAHA MADE ME LAUGH HAHAHAHAHA




okey im done...back on topic lol...just to put this in this lil thing yall r havin here...........its haram to self harm urself!!!!haram to not take care of ur body!!HARAM

thats all..

 

[qassy!]

^ HAHAHAHA MADE ME LAUGH HAHAHAHAHA




okey im done...back on topic lol...just to put this in this lil thing yall r havin here...........its haram to self harm urself!!!!haram to not take care of ur body!!HARAM

thats all..

yes thats another point its haram! so theres no understanding!

 

[ummsara1108]

there beyond help.............

Well i'm so sorry you have given up hope for those who need it,
and i'm glad your life has been so wondeful that you have never turned to or even concidered selfhaming yourself,
besides it isn't about you it's about them.
But what we do know your not even interested in helping a fellow or non fellow brother/sister, Thanks for your support.

BTW it's haram to turn away from someone in need...

 

[truemuslim]

^ who is in need?

 

[qassy!]

Well i'm so sorry you have given up hope for those who need it,
and i'm glad your life has been so wondeful that you have never turned to or even concidered selfhaming yourself,
besides it isn't about you it's about them.
But what we do know your not even interested in helping a fellow or non fellow brother/sister, Thanks for your support.

BTW it's haram to turn away from someone in need...

A) I have never given hope for people who harm them selves it just doesn't make sense to me therefore I don't care

B) When did I say my life is do wonderful I have my problems but I solve them other ways not my harming my self

C) I know its not about me its about them I am giving my opinion

D) I am interested in helping people regardless or race or religion but when it comes down to things like this I don't bother

 

[qassy!]

^ who is in need?

people who harm them selves

 

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:salamext:

1st of all, moderators, please delete off topic posts. I don't want this thread to be closed.

A request to brothers and sisters - stay on topic.

2ndly

yes thats another point its haram! so theres no understanding!

Music is haraam, people try to justify that? I'm not justifying Self harm, but I am saying that people that self harm need other people that are understanding and need people to support them, because they go through a very rough time.

 

[Woodrow]

The question that has bantered around for the past page or 2 is "Why do people self harm?" The question is not if it is haram or halal, that is a separate topic.

The answer to "Why do people self harm?" is to distract away from the main problems.

It is very similar to having a bad toothache that the pain is unbearable, so you bash your hand into a door. Hurts, like crazy, but for a few minutes you forget you have a toothache.

 

[sevgi]

everyone is going round in circles...

i made a post earlier..which answers all of these...and yet i feel as though i need to post the same post all over agen...

qassy...do u really want answers or ar u after a nice opinion justification debate?

if u want answers...they are in this thread...including my last two posts.

there is no justification for it...its been said...and there is reasoning behind it...as in there are reasons why ppl do it...that doesnt open grounds for you to 'reason' with such an issue...

if u dnt feel that u wud like to, or cannot...or shud not deal with such issues and ppl...u dnt have to...

and i dnt think u shud as u just quite frankly do not understand the sincerity and instability of the ppl who go through this problem...

ur ex-gf...thats not self harm...thats adorning her body with the name of the guy she loves and will get over it...how old is she 16? lol...no one above that age wud do such a thing..trust me...ive had every letter of the alphabet carved into my body...it was the cool thing to do...u like a guy called Ahmad and u scrape in an A...it dissapears...lol...
this case is like getting a tattoo...ppl who get them dnt think 'hey...screw the world im gna get a tattoo in order to hurt myself'...

yes...we all know its haraam to self harm..thats y u CANNOT justify it...

so lets start from scratch ay???

sis Ahlaam...maybe u can pose a new direction for this thread...or repose issues which have not yet sunk in properly...we have quite a bit on 'why ppl do it' and 'how stupid it is' and 'why ppl shudnt do it'...

maybe the next step is 'how ppl can stop doing it' or 'how we can help them'..?

peace.

 

[qassy!]

everyone is going round in circles...

i made a post earlier..which answers all of these...and yet i feel as though i need to post the same post all over agen...

qassy...do u really want answers or ar u after a nice opinion justification debate?

if u want answers...they are in this thread...including my last two posts.

there is no justification for it...its been said...and there is reasoning behind it...as in there are reasons why ppl do it...that doesnt open grounds for you to 'reason' with such an issue...

if u dnt feel that u wud like to, or cannot...or shud not deal with such issues and ppl...u dnt have to...

and i dnt think u shud as u just quite frankly do not understand the sincerity and instability of the ppl who go through this problem...

ur ex-gf...thats not self harm...thats adorning her body with the name of the guy she loves and will get over it...how old is she 16? lol...no one above that age wud do such a thing..trust me...ive had every letter of the alphabet carved into my body...it was the cool thing to do...u like a guy called Ahmad and u scrape in an A...it dissapears...lol...
this case is like getting a tattoo...ppl who get them dnt think 'hey...screw the world im gna get a tattoo in order to hurt myself'...

yes...we all know its haraam to self harm..thats y u CANNOT justify it...

so lets start from scratch ay???

sis Ahlaam...maybe u can pose a new direction for this thread...or repose issues which have not yet sunk in properly...we have quite a bit on 'why ppl do it' and 'how stupid it is' and 'why ppl shudnt do it'...

maybe the next step is 'how ppl can stop doing it' or 'how we can help them'..?

peace.

shes 17


I understand what you are saying but its not understandable

Ok there depressed then they leave the country for example I can understand that, but I wouldnt reason with it

like someone harming them selves its somthing I cant understand,



let me read you last two posts like you said brb

EDIT: SOrry sister your quote in bold how can you not call that self harm ? Making your self bleed the pain just a few letters!

Ok even if its a worser case and I am sure there is still doesmt mean they do it

What I am trying 2 get as these people who do it

They are not achiving anything are they? there not getting less depresssed are they?

 

[qassy!]

They are not achiving anything are they? there not getting less depresssed are they?

 

[sevgi]

those last two posts u quoted aint mine...

in my post it states that 'they arent trying to achieve anything...it doesnt make them less depressed...

i then stated what it does do for them..

hold on..ill grab it for u and post it agen

 

[sevgi]

salams..

people harm themselves not for a solution or a way to get somewhere with an issue...

they do it out of confusion...they have mixed emotions...and dont know how to channel or vent it...

the main emotion is usually hopelessness...

another thing is that they feel as tho their issues are 'greater' or 'diffrent' to others' issues....in order to portray this to themselves...or perhaps to other ppl, they harm themselves...

the moment one realises that they have come to the point of harming themselves...it escalates the issue to a higher level...to a new realm...and ppl who find out actually take the issue seriously...coz unfortunately...in todays day n age...ppl are selfish..and ppl who harm themselves feel as tho noone will understand them...or noone will care...bt the moment u hurt urself...bang...u get the attention U FEEL UR ISSUE DESERVES...

keep in mind that this isnt intentional or strategic...they dnt sit there and calculate these things...they are merely messages from the brain to the body..subconsiously...

peace.

here it is...

 

[Souljette]

Lol honestly i don't get it...i don't understand why people are arguing over certain things that argument isn't even needed for....bro qassy has his opinion of why people cut themselves and i agree with him on the fact that they don't achieve anything and that they shouldn't do it and its not justifiable..ok we all agree on this...so now bro qassy is rite in this part..there's no need of argument..now we have to tell sisters and bro's in this forum how to tell people to stop this..how to tell sisters or bros..most of the time these sisters/bro's aren't really islamic or don't have faith in Allah (s.w.t) ...either they are just childish like sis sumeyye said..teenagers...being a teenage girl myself there are times i can't bear things so i just keep praying to Allah(s.w.t) hoping everything will be aiight..or punch sumthing and i recommend people have something they can hit so they vent their anger out that way...now these are teenagers ....but there are people who reallyyyy have problems ..and these people need support from both family and every1 else around them and doctors ofcourse and their family's prayers as well..

Now this thread is not about agreeing with people cutting themselves...i don't know what the real point of this thread was but i'm thinking it's to help people to stop it..and till now i haven't reallyy seen anyting in regards to stopping them..and let's talk logic here please..every'1's entitled to their own opinion...many people are weak while others are strong in controling themselves..we have to make these weak ppl feel strong...and help them build themselves up...yes we all agree it's haram and this is the main pointtttt....i had a talk wit my friend about this...and alhamdullahhh a month or so later her friend told me htat she actually stopped cutting herself..so c'mmon people let's stop arguing when we're supposed to stop being on the cutting person's side and instead help them cope wit it..

 

[sevgi]

Lol honestly i don't get it...i don't understand why people are arguing over certain things that argument isn't even needed for....bro qassy has his opinion of why people cut themselves and i agree with him on the fact that they don't achieve anything and that they shouldn't do it and its not justifiable..ok we all agree on this...so now bro qassy is rite in this part..there's no need of argument..now we have to tell sisters and bro's in this forum how to tell people to stop this..how to tell sisters or bros..most of the time these sisters/bro's aren't really islamic or don't have faith in Allah (s.w.t) ...either they are just childish like sis sumeyye said..teenagers...being a teenage girl myself there are times i can't bear things so i just keep praying to Allah(s.w.t) hoping everything will be aiight..or punch sumthing and i recommend people have something they can hit so they vent their anger out that way...now these are teenagers ....but there are people who reallyyyy have problems ..and these people need support from both family and every1 else around them and doctors ofcourse and their family's prayers as well..

Now this thread is not about agreeing with people cutting themselves...i don't know what the real point of this thread was but i'm thinking it's to help people to stop it..and till now i haven't reallyy seen anyting in regards to stopping them..and let's talk logic here please..every'1's entitled to their own opinion...many people are weak while others are strong in controling themselves..we have to make these weak ppl feel strong...and help them build themselves up...yes we all agree it's haram and this is the main pointtttt....i had a talk wit my friend about this...and alhamdullahhh a month or so later her friend told me htat she actually stopped cutting herself..so c'mmon people let's stop arguing when we're supposed to stop being on the cutting person's side and instead help them cope wit it..

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[Cabdullahi]

I dont do self harm but when i mess up on a particular thing i just smack self on the head ..does that count?

 

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:salamext:

^ Nah lol.

 

[Cabdullahi]

YEAH i thought so but im very critical of myself and i hope i dont kill myself in the near future

 

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:salamext:

Its got nothing to do with killing yourself!!!!!!!!!!!