"Dad, I'm Dying" -israeli pigs use boy to practice shooting

[sister herb]

We muslims will never fight against children or women or any civilians.

Kafirs might behave like this, not we.

 

[jenwen74]

I'm so sad after reading this. I wish i could help and my heart is breaking with each story i read, and every report on aljazeera. Hamdullah, every brother and sister who suffers in this evil, disgusting torture and murder will go straight to Allahs Paradise.

IT HAS TO STOP NOW!

 

[Amadeus85]

My question is simple but honest - in what way the palestinian victims are more special than the black muslims from Darfur, Sudan, that they got so many threads and your anger. The muslims worldwide, as you say, are all relatives, so why some "brothers" and "sisters" get so much attention and other not. Is it because the Darfurians were killed by co-religionists muslims, or because their deaths werent televised by Al Jazeera.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Blindfolded Palestinian boys whose have lost all they family by zionists/USA air strikes proposed ceasefire for one year. Lets see what zionists say about idea.

:-[

They don´t like to make peace with Palestinians, let me say.

Ceasefire does not equal peace.

 

[sister herb]

Ceasefire does not equal peace.

Surely not peace; Hamas demanded freedom for Gazans. There is still siege, political and economical.

 

[Keltoi]

We muslims will never fight against children or women or any civilians.

Kafirs might behave like this, not we.

Someone should remind the "freedom fighters" in Iraq and Afghanistan about that.

 

[sister herb]

Someone should remind the "freedom fighters" in Iraq and Afghanistan about that.

I would like to remind this; only Allah knows are some fighters muslims or have they left Islam.

:X

Judge others doesn´t belongs to me.

 

[جوري]

My question is simple but honest - in what way the palestinian victims are more special than the black muslims from Darfur, Sudan, that they got so many threads and your anger. The muslims worldwide, as you say, are all relatives, so why some "brothers" and "sisters" get so much attention and other not. Is it because the Darfurians were killed by co-religionists muslims, or because their deaths werent televised by Al Jazeera.

A conundrum indeed.. perhaps we can classify it under those mysteries like, why would a polish fellow preoccupy himself with the affairs of Muslims on an Islamic forum in lieu or trying to solve his own country's crisis? -- simple, but honest!

cheers

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Economy, Poland's Top Problem, Is Ignored by Candidates

By JOHN TAGLIABUE, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: May 30, 1989
LEAD: Although the economy appears to be Poland's most pressing problem, it is not an issue in the nation's freest election campaign since the Communists took power after World War II.
Although the economy appears to be Poland's most pressing problem, it is not an issue in the nation's freest election campaign since the Communists took power after World War II.
The country has a $39 billion foreign debt and a runaway money supply chasing an erratic flow of consumer goods. But candidates of the ruling Communist Party prefer to avoid the big economic problems, limiting themselves instead to nickel-and-dime issues like getting telephones installed in constituencies that lack them.
The Solidarity movement, the challenger to the Communists in the national elections, which will be held on Sunday, has its own reasons to skirt the issue. Critics of Solidarity's economics contend the movement suffers from its hybrid quality. Solidarity, which is neither a pure trade union with exclusively labor interests nor a classic political party with a complete economic program, now resembles a national front, united only by its opposition to the ruling Communists.
Solidarity has been under little pressure to make firm campaign pledges on the economy. With only 35 percent of the lower chamber of Parliament, or Sejm, assured for Solidarity under the present voting arrangement, the union will not be able to control the new Government, and thus can evade responsibility. Major Problem After Vote
But the economy will be the primary problem confronting the Government after the vote.
For example, the Government has acted in recent months to adjust farm prices to production costs by increasing prices for the equipment and materials, such as feed and fertilizers, that farmers use. Now the Government must act quickly after the election to raise food prices, or risk making farming so unprofitable that production would drop drastically and food shortages would result. In Poland, such food price increases have often touched off unrest.
Even more disturbing for Solidarity, the union entered a deal with the regime under which it agreed to maintain labor peace in exchange for political concessions like Solidarity's return to legal status, and the present elections. Until now Lech Walesa, the Solidarity leader, has managed to keep widespread wildcat strikes from spreading.
Even as Election Day approaches, economic indicators are getting worse.
A scathing report last week on the economy in the weekly Zycie Gospodarcze, said that over the first four months of the year the sole bright spot in the economy, industrial production, had begun to dim, adding a third liability to faltering consumer supplies and runaway inflation. Fear of Worsening Conditions
Judging from several rallies and election meetings, the concerns that do arise when discussion turns to the economy are about the risks involved in a free-for-all market economy, with fears that conditions for most people will get worse. But there is also discussion of abuse by Communist Party officials, and worry that heavily indebted Poland, after years of subservience to Russian masters, is about to be sold out to the West.
Concern over party corruption focuses on profiteering by managers of state enterprises. Poland has recently sought to broaden the private sector, allowing small manufacturing and service companies to speed the flow of goods and services.
But Poles have grown familiar through the ever more free-wheeling press with reports of state company managers who take shares in private companies that rely for their profits on equipment and supplies from those same state companies.
In his campaign in rural regions around Piotrkow Trybunalski, west of Warsaw, Andrzej Zawislak, an economist at Warsaw university, said the crushing debt problem, and what people perceived as the Communist leadership's mad dash, hat in hand, for Western credits, caused fears in the constituency of a sellout to the West.
One of the questions most frequently put to him, he said, went like this: ''Do you think that these Communists first sold us to the Russians, and now that the water is up to their necks, they're going to sell us to the West Germans and Americans.''

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[Amadeus85]

A conundrum indeed.. perhaps we can classify it under those mysteries like, why would a polish fellow preoccupy himself with the affairs of Muslims on an Islamic forum in lieu or trying to solve his own country's crisis? -- simple, but honest!

cheers

That article is about elections in 1989... Anyway, it's meaningless. I still haven't got answer for my question.

 

[جوري]

Someone should remind the "freedom fighters" in Iraq and Afghanistan about that.

ah ---Agent Provocateurs? .. one wonders what Iraqis would gain killing one another were it not instigated to begin with, or better yet when impersonated..

UK Soldiers Caught Dressed As Iraqis Killing Local Police
David Cohen |

Jeff - The BBC reported somthing VERY vague about an attack on the Basra jail but it caught my attention, so I switched to the Australian TV channels to find more info:

The reports stated two British commando special forces dressed as Iraqis have been cought by the Iraqis after they were found shooting and killing local policemen. And the Iraqis put them in jail.

The British army then, came with tanks, destroyed the jail and freed the two british commandos. In the process, all the Iraqi prisoners in the jail ran away to freedom.

Riots started, and I saw British tanks engulfed with molotov coktails and British soldiers runing out of thier tanks, some were on fire.

This report give crediblity to the 'conspiracy theorists' who have long claimed many terrorist acts in Iraq are, in fact, being initiated and carried out by US, British and Israeli forces.

The TRUTH is the British had to either rescue or kill these two commandos in order to keep these operations secret. Fortunately for the two Brits, they were saved.

The British Commander of the forces involved gave such idiotic excuses I won't even bother to report them to you. The followng just moved on the net...


Iraqi Prison Stormed By British Tanks And Helicopters

British forces in tanks and helicopters stormed an Iraqi jail tonight to rescue two service personnel who were arrested after allegedly shooting dead a local policeman and wounding another, the governor of Basra said.

The two men had been taken to the Basra jail after violence erupted earlier today in the southern Iraqi city.

Photographs of the two - thought to be special forces officers - were taken and released to the media, showing them bandaged and bloody.

British troops had arrived at the police station where the two men were being held and encircled the building.

They were attacked by demonstrators with rocks and petrol bombs.

One soldier was seen engulfed by flames tumbling from his tank and gunfire was exchanged between the two sides, leaving three soldiers injured and two civilians dead.

Later, more than 10 tanks and helicopters broke down the walls of the jail in the rescue operation to release the two arrested servicemen.

It was also reported that 150 Iraqi prisoners escaped in what Mohammed al-Waili, the governor of Basra, described as a 'barbaric, savage and irresponsible' act.

The MoD refused to comment after officials said that the two men were undercover officers dressed as Arabs.

The spokesman said: "We can confirm that the two military personnel have been released."

Mr al-Waili said: "A British force of more than 10 tanks backed by helicopters attacked the central jail and destroyed it. This is an irresponsible act."

He said the British force had spirited the prisoners away to an unknown location.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/basra_agent_provocateurs.htm

amongst other reports of course (those reported and those not), but we have come to know for your mediocrity especially when it comes to common sense and your ability to draw such satisfaction out of simplistic conclusions!

cheers

 

[جوري]

That article is about elections in 1989... Anyway, it's meaningless. I still haven't got answer for my question.

actually it is dated Saturday, January 17, 2009 even if the events date to back when.. I suppose when you come up with an answer to your presence here as well as preoccupation with affairs that don't seem to be as pressing to you as your own country's problems, would you then receive an answer in return.. start small and work your way up!

cheers

 

[Amadeus85]

actually it is dated Saturday, January 17, 2009 even if the events date to back when.. I suppose when you come up with an answer to your presence here as well as preoccupation with affairs that don't seem to be as pressing to you as your own country's problems, would you then receive an answer in return.. start small and work your way up!

cheers

The reason of my presence here- I like knowing whats going on in the world. Thats why I also visit BBC UK and other sites like this. My own country's problems are solved better or worse by our politicians. But I still think about my question. Is it only because the Darfurians were killed by the co-religionists?

 

[جوري]

The reason of my presence here- I like knowing whats going on in the world. Thats why I also visit BBC UK and other sites like this. My own country's problems are solved better or worse by our politicians. But I still think about my question. Is it only because the Darfurians were killed by the co-religionists?

hmmn no it doesn't seem to be solved by your country's politicians

Corruption in Poland as a result of the 50 years of "communist rule". Law and justice - but what about honesty?​

According to many, Poland is not only one of the most corrupted countries in Europe, but the most corrupted one. Even the former US secretary of state Zbigniew Brzezinski, commented on the subject during his recent visit to Poland in his speech (in Polish) after the death of the Pope.

The communist system, although its ideas were exciting, unfortunately was not embraced nor understood by the people. It either came too early, or the people were simply not able to understand how good it was if applied properly. The ownership of the means of production by the state meant to the great majority of Poles that they did not belong to anyone. "We are the state," some were saying, "thus, nothing improper, if I take home a bit of my property. It is not stealing, you can't steal something that belongs to you."

The Poles, not unlike any other nation, are selfish. Everyone for himself, this is why capitalism works, and communism doesn't. People look after their own property; they don't look after the state's property. In that situation the factories, agriculture, etc were left on its own. No one cared.

On the other hand, the country of "workers and peasants" disrespected the very people it was meant to represent. The educated communist elite was in charge. The people with university degrees enjoyed high incomes and high standard of living while the "working class" was exceedingly poor. The state controlled media lied about the state of the country, about ambitious plans and achievements that were simply false. Everyone lied to each other. And the ruling class gave the worst examples of how you should act. The people in power were speaking with double-tongues; on one hand extolling the virtues of the honesty in a socialist state, on the other hand, stealing like crazy, promoting their own interests in the society, giving the best jobs to family and friends and so on.

The "cheating" system does exist even in other countries, but in the East, in Poland, it was a party doctrine. Join the communist party, be a consummate liar, collect the riches, climb up the ladder. Bribes and lies were an accepted method of gaining success - stealing from the state, a rule.

No wonder that fifty years of this kind of indoctrination resulted in a warped nation. As Abba sang, "Money, money, money" - nothing else mattered.

Formally Poland as a member of EU follows the same set of laws as the other of its members, in practice, the old system is still in place. Since the same people, already educated and in charge during the "socialist" era are still in power, nothing has changed. The former president Mr. Kwasniewski was a communist party member, as an example. Socialism, democracy - the name of the systems may change, all the career politicians care about is to survive. And survive they did.

Almost no one was given the sack, although, the members of the secret police, police, justice system, etc have had held their positions during the "old times" working well within the old system. The Polish laws are supposed to comply with the EUs, but law is one thing, justice yet another. The best proof of the current situation in Poland is the arrival of a new party that finds the need to call itself: "Law and justice". (Funnily enough no one, in this context, talks about honesty.)

It seems the party means that although the laws exist, they are not being applied in a proper way, and although Poland has a justice system, it does not administer justice, as it should.

For any Pole it is obvious that this is the case. The talk about scandals and corruption, that includes even the President (Kwasniewski) and his wife, is the most common subject in the media, that itself is not immune from accusations. It has taken fifty years of "socialism" to create a "new socialist people" (which spells as cheats and an opportunists), the question now is, how long will it take to create an honest one.



corruptionpoland.jp.jpg
http://www.polishforums.com/corruption_poland-7_194_0.html

again-- preoccupy yourself with your own problems and then come ask of the darfurians and and and, or perhaps start a thread about them in a section not dedicated to Gaza so you and yours don't come across like extreme hypocrites-- which in my mind there is no doubt of!

There is really no point of discussing underwater basket weaving in cooking class.. but if you so enjoy the diversions I hope you enjoyed our little skit on Poland!

cheers

 

[Amadeus85]

Yes I enjoyed, I even read the whole article. Although I must say that things improved since 2005 and the lsot of post-communists in elections. It is true, many things must be improved, but still we can be proud of many things.
I ask my question because my muslim friend in university sent me a link with pics of Gaza masacres and he said like this- "We muslims around the world are all relatives, if one of our brother or sister suffers, we pray for peace and cry for them". Then I thought, why he never sent me link with Darfur massacres, which nowadays even flood to Chad. There is enormous disproportion also in this forum, when some say "Zionists" are 1 zillion times worse than nazi, talking about new Holocaust, making dozens of threads. Yes, I agree, human death is a disaster, I have little idea of whats hapenning in Palestina/Israel, as I think that it is a play between USA, arabic regimes and Iran and Russia. Its just double standard if the ethnic cleansing of 250 000 black muslims didnt release same anger of yours.

 

[جوري]

Yes I enjoyed, I even read the whole article.

Great

Although I must say that things improved since 2005 and the lsot of post-communists in elections

others beg to differ but that isn't an issue of concern to me

. It is true, many things must be improved, but still we can be proud of many things.

Good for you man

I ask my question because my muslim friend in university sent me a link with pics of Gaza masacres and he said like this- "We muslims around the world are all relatives, if one of our brother or sister suffers, we pray for peace and cry for them". Then I thought, why he never sent me link with Darfur massacres, which nowadays even flood to Chad.

the Islamic perspective on the matter.. if truly you were interested

America and Europe claim to set the style of religious tolerance for the rest of the world to follow. Africa in some parts of it challenges that assumption and the wave of negative images the Western media have constructed of a continent believed by many scientists to be the origin of mankind. Below is an interview Muslim Affairs conducted with Dr. Ali A. Mazrui on issues of religion, conflict, and democracy in the African continent.

Dr. Ali A. Mazrui is a distinguished Kenyan scholar. He is now Albert Schweitzer Professor in the Humanities and Director of the Institute of Global Cultural Studies at Binghamton University, State University of New York. He is also Albert Luthuli Professor-at-Large at the University of Jos in Nigeria. He is Andrew D. White Professor-at-Large Emeritus and Senior Scholar in Africana Studies at Cornell University. Dr. Mazrui has also been appointed Chancellor of the Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology in Kenya — an appointment made by Kenya’s Head of State.



IOL: Certain conflicts in Africa, particularly in Sudan and Somalia, would be described as religiously motivated, therefore, qualifying to be called manifestations of an ongoing clash between Islam and the West, according to some observers. What do you think about this assumption?Mazrui: With regards to Sudan, religious factors are found in the north-south conflict, but almost there is no religious factor with regard to Darfur; that is the conflict where all sides are Muslims, so they are not quarrelling about religion. They are quarrelling about other matters. But the older conflict which is hopefully coming to an end between North and South in Sudan maybe includes a religious dimension among several other issues.
In Somalia, the country is overwhelmingly Muslim, and they are trying to experiment with an Islamic system before Ethiopians intervened. So again there is a religious issue there, and again it is one issue because Somalis also fight among each others when they are all Muslims. So the conflicts are very often clan conflicts rather than conflicts between religion and secularity.
In the case of Ethiopia, it is not overwhelmingly Christian; It is about half and half, and only because Christians are in political control, to some extent, that there is tension between Muslims and Christians.
​

Where there is no ethnic or tribal tension, relation between Muslims and Christians in Africa are likely better than in most part of the world.IOL: If we look at the history of the relationship between Islam and Christianity in Africa, is there anything that can explain the current conflicts in Somalia and Sudan?Mazrui: The relations between Islam and Christianity are relatively cordial in Africa as compared with the relations between them in other regions. So, Africa is the only continent where you can have a country with 90 percent Muslims and yet can elect a Christian president as in Senegal, or a country that can have half Muslims and half Christians and people share the presidency. Tanzania had a Christian president for two terms followed by a Muslim president, then a Christian president and now a Muslim president. They are not fighting over religion; they are sharing power. So, In general, in Africa the two religions are very often cordial unless they are complicated by other differences.
In Nigeria, almost all Hausa, in terms of ethnic groups, are Muslims and almost all Ibos are Christians. Islam enforces Hausa identity, and Christianity enforces Ibo identity. Yoruba, which is a third group, splits half and half, Muslims and Christians. So, in that situation where u have ethnicity and tribalism being an additional divide, religion then becomes a complicating factor. But where there is no ethnic or tribal tension, relation between Muslims and Christians in Africa are likely better than in most part of the world.
IOL: Do you think religion plays a major role in African politics?
​

Dr. Ali. A. AzruiMazrui: In some countries yes, but not so much in others like Senegal, where a Christian president (Léopold Sédar Senghor) was elected president for 20 years (1960-1980) by the overwhelming Muslim population. So that sort of thing will never happen in any other region of the world. Different African countries, however, have different demographic balances with Christians and Muslims and these can get along quite well. But when there is tribalism which enforces religious divisions, there is the problem.
IOL: But isn't there a difference between how religion affects politics in Africa and how it does so in the United States and Europe?
Mazrui:Yes definitely, As I said in politics, in Africa it is possible for people to elect members of deferent faiths to be heads of states. The United States has never had a Jew for president and only one president was a Roman Catholic and all other presidents had been protestants. In Africa, there are countries with overwhelmingly one religion and have a president from another religion. There is an entirely different orientation with regard to the relationship between religion and state progress; you can not imagine a Muslim being elected as president in the United States.
​

China is for some reason regarded as responsible for not restraining Sudan and that is often an unjust charge against China.IOL: Do you think some big powers, such as the United States, China, and Europe, exploit religious and ethnic differences in some parts of Africa to advance their political and economic interests?Mazrui:Certainly with regard to China vs. the West, there is a new form of rivalry. The old cold war was primarily ideological, this one is resource rivalry. Chinese on one side and Westerners on the other are concerned about comparative advantage with regard to access to Africa's resources, including Sudanese oil. China is for some reason regarded as responsible for not restraining Sudan and that is often unjust charge against China. So, some of the local problems, like the problem of Darfur, become internationalized because they are used as part of the international rivalry between big powers.
The United States decided to regard the conflict in Darfur as a case of genocide and it is only the United States that has taken that position; It is not a United Nations position and it is not a majority position in the world. To describe it as a genocide, you have a good deal of special type of emotions and you aggravate the tensions between those who want to protect the people of Darfur and those who want to protect the sovereignty of Sudan. So, in those situations the local and the global intermingle.
​

Darfur has been dramatized by describing it as a genocide.IOL: How can you explain the current Media disregard of the crisis in Somalia as opposed to that in Darfur?Mazrui:Darfur has been dramatized by describing it as a genocide and having a situation where there is a particular government that can be held accountable, whereas in Somalia there hasn't been much with a government that has been struggling to have an ensemble of institutions on and off.
Second, Westerners argue that Somalia is pretty close to being Africa's Afghanistan and therefore sufficiently anarchic and chaotic to be hospitable for al-Qaeda, because they are watching very carefully in case it comes to what they regard as breeding terrorists. But politics is a matter of perception rather than a matter of fact.
IOL:Can the international disregard of Somalia be attributed to the assumption the United States and other big powers have less interests in Somalia than they have in Darfur.
Mazrui: Somalia is very strategic and it is well located near the Middle East, but it is a very poor country and the United States does not want it to fall into the wrong hands.
IOL: Now I would like to ask about the issue of democracy in Africa. Some parts of Africa, like Kenya and Zimbabwe, have had relatively free and competitive elections, yet those defeated would not step down. What is wrong with the democratic process in Africa?

Mazrui: In Kenya parliamentary elections, one powerful Kenyan after another was defeated and lost their seats including vice president of Kenya at the time. So it looked as if the elections were transparent and open until you go to the presidency and then trouble begins. In Zimbabwe, there is a similar type of situation. Mugabe has lost the majority in parliament and then you have all this stalemate waiting to see how the vote went with regard to the presidency.
Unfortunately, although we have made progress in Africa by having competitive elections of the presidency the progress is not great enough to lead to a full acceptance of defeat at least in some countries. There had been countries where elections defeated incumbents as in Zambia and then somebody else succeeds. Similar thing happened in Malawi in the past; incumbent was defeated and somebody else succeeded. So it has happened before, but usually those who are in power are a bit reluctant to let go and it is very sad.
I still think there is progress because African presidents before would not even allow rivals in competitive elections and so the presidency was never competed for. For quite awhile in Kenya President Jomo Kenyatta never really had a rival when he was alive, and then for nearly two decades there has never been challenge from election to election. Now it is challenging, but there has not being learned how to accept defeat.
IOL: Some observers would say that the violence following the Kenyan elections sent shock waves to other African regimes to beware the consequences of any attempts to hold into power against the will of their people. Now the regime in Zimbabwe does not seem to care about the Kenyan experience. Do you think other regimes would follow Zimbabwe in that step?
Mazrui: Well, never these countries have experienced a situation where someone who is in the presidency was defeated and goes out. It has happened in other parts of Africa like Senegal, where Abdou Diouf was defeated and he stepped down but it has never happened in Eastern Africa.
We are struggling within uncharted territory, and in southern Africa it did happen. In Zambia the president was defeated and stepped out of power, so Mugabe should have followed that example
​

There is enormous disproportion also in this forum, when some say "Zionists" are 1 zillion times worse than nazi, talking about new Holocaust, making dozens of threads. Yes, I agree, human death is a disaster, I have little idea of whats hapenning in Palestina/Israel, as I think that it is a play between USA, arabic regimes and Iran and Russia. Its just double standard if the ethnic cleansing of 250 000 black muslims didnt release same anger of yours.

No disproportion, the zionists are indeed akin to the Nazis except far worst as one war ended after 5 yrs, whilst the Palestinians have been living beneath this injustice for 60+ with the endorsement of others. ..

there is no double standard a discerning look and serious study will clarify that for you... other than that, the article above is more the sufficient!

cheers

 

[sister herb]

Yes I enjoyed, .

For zionists you are same as we as muslims; non-human as non-jew.



Welcome to club!

 

[Banu_Hashim]

My question is simple but honest - in what way the palestinian victims are more special than the black muslims from Darfur, Sudan, that they got so many threads and your anger. The muslims worldwide, as you say, are all relatives, so why some "brothers" and "sisters" get so much attention and other not. Is it because the Darfurians were killed by co-religionists muslims, or because their deaths werent televised by Al Jazeera.

That's a very fair question. Sometimes Muslims often over look the fact that Muslim suffering is endemic not just in the Middle East but all over the World including Africa, as you said. Our hearts go out to those Muslims, as well as the Gazzans. However, the crisis at the moment is not the result of a disagreement from few weeks ago.. but it has a long history of opression. That's why it is a particularly bitter topic, when Israeli's are killing Palestinians left right and centre. No one is more special than anyone else.

 

[sister herb]

Peaceful rabbis:

Israeli rabbis to Olmert:It doesn’t matter even if you kill million Palestinians

[ 18/01/2009 - 02:02 AM ]




GAZA, (PIC)-- A report issued by the Saudi Al-Watan news paper revealed Saturday that Jewish rabbis in the Zionist entity have issued a religious edict allowing the killing of Palestinian women and children and exonerating every Jew doing such horrible thing.

According to the paper, the rabbis opined that the Israeli massacres in Gaza Strip falls in line with Jewish teachings that consider such killing as "mass punishment to the enemies".

The paper also added that one of the rabbis opined that there would be no problem at all in exterminating the Palestinian people even if one million or more of them were killed at the hands of the occupation troops.

Citing verses from the Book of Geneses, Jewish rabbi Mordachi Elyaho, who is the religious reference of the popular religious current in the Zionist entity sent outgoing Israeli premier Ehud Olmert a weekly leaflet containing articles allowing the Jews to carryout the idea of massive punishment against the enemies in accordance with the ethics of war in the Torah, the paper pointed out.

"This standard could also be applied to the case of Gaza as all Gaza inhabitants bear the responsibility because they didn’t do anything to stop the firing of Qassam Brigades" said Elyaho in his letter to Olmert, urging him to continue the military aggression on the Palestinians because "harming innocent Palestinians was a legitimate matter."

Yesrael Rozin, another fanatic rabbi, was also quoted as saying that law of the Torah stipulates the killing of men, children, women, elderly, infants, and animals [of the enemy], the paper furthermore added.

For his part, Safad rabbi Sholomo Elyaho underlined, "If we kill 100 of them but they refuse to halt this [firing of rockets] them we should kill 1000; and if we kill 1000 of them but they didn’t stop, then we should kill 10000 of them, and we must continue killing them even if they reach one million and despite the time spent in killing them".

"The Psalms says "I should continue chasing my enemies and arrest them, and I won't cease till I finish them completely", the rabbi said according to the report.

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/en/...vR/bV+Pv7vZZIr4cKeRTWwNH50F/a57OeOsWMM3df/k8=

:exhausted

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Peaceful rabbis:

Israeli rabbis to Olmert:It doesn’t matter even if you kill million Palestinians

[ 18/01/2009 - 02:02 AM ]




GAZA, (PIC)-- A report issued by the Saudi Al-Watan news paper revealed Saturday that Jewish rabbis in the Zionist entity have issued a religious edict allowing the killing of Palestinian women and children and exonerating every Jew doing such horrible thing.

According to the paper, the rabbis opined that the Israeli massacres in Gaza Strip falls in line with Jewish teachings that consider such killing as "mass punishment to the enemies".

The paper also added that one of the rabbis opined that there would be no problem at all in exterminating the Palestinian people even if one million or more of them were killed at the hands of the occupation troops.

Citing verses from the Book of Geneses, Jewish rabbi Mordachi Elyaho, who is the religious reference of the popular religious current in the Zionist entity sent outgoing Israeli premier Ehud Olmert a weekly leaflet containing articles allowing the Jews to carryout the idea of massive punishment against the enemies in accordance with the ethics of war in the Torah, the paper pointed out.

"This standard could also be applied to the case of Gaza as all Gaza inhabitants bear the responsibility because they didn’t do anything to stop the firing of Qassam Brigades" said Elyaho in his letter to Olmert, urging him to continue the military aggression on the Palestinians because "harming innocent Palestinians was a legitimate matter."

Yesrael Rozin, another fanatic rabbi, was also quoted as saying that law of the Torah stipulates the killing of men, children, women, elderly, infants, and animals [of the enemy], the paper furthermore added.

For his part, Safad rabbi Sholomo Elyaho underlined, "If we kill 100 of them but they refuse to halt this [firing of rockets] them we should kill 1000; and if we kill 1000 of them but they didn’t stop, then we should kill 10000 of them, and we must continue killing them even if they reach one million and despite the time spent in killing them".

"The Psalms says "I should continue chasing my enemies and arrest them, and I won't cease till I finish them completely", the rabbi said according to the report.

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/en/...vR/bV+Pv7vZZIr4cKeRTWwNH50F/a57OeOsWMM3df/k8=

:exhausted

I wonder what these funny-hatters have to say about the holocaust..

 

[Keltoi]

ah ---Agent Provocateurs? .. one wonders what Iraqis would gain killing one another were it not instigated to begin with, or better yet when impersonated..

amongst other reports of course (those reported and those not), but we have come to know for your mediocrity especially when it comes to common sense and your ability to draw such satisfaction out of simplistic conclusions!

cheers

In other words, it is easier to deflect the issue by pointing to a conspiracy than actually addressing it.