Deadly explosions hit US city of Boston

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isnt this a proof for American Muslims that they are not really American? If they were, they would not have been targeted like this again and again by the people of that country.
 
This week in an Iraq cafe 32 (Not 3) were killed in a suicide bombing. 65 were wounded. Who cares right?

I do care.
There has been a spate of suicide bombings in Iraq again. Do we know who the terrorists are who commit these crimes? Are they brought to justice?
Perhaps it is worth another thread in the World Affairs section, because although these attacks are reported in the media, one rarely hears of the outcome and whether the criminals were caught ...

Salaam
 
Martial law in Boston and police going door to door without warrants. School/work shootings and all these bombings become social engineering and conditioning projects by those in power to transform this country into a fascist state.
Some may see a connection between Waco, Ruby Ridge, OK City, 9/11, DC sniper, anthrax mailings, Shady Hook, Boston marathon, Patriot Act, NDAA, Iraq, Afganistan, etc that paints an ugly 'fascist state' picture and others may not see any connection between any of them whatsoever and rather see a completely different world-view picture.
 
This has happened in Ireland too

I live in Ireland which, as you may know, was the scene of many years of terrorism both here and across the water in the UK. I see some parallels with what is happening now.

I won’t go into the complexities of the issues at stake because that's not important here. The key comparison I want to make is with the way Irish people were treated during the ‘Troubles’, as the era was called. Many bombs were planted in London and other cities over a period of many years, most of which caused civilian casualties. Not surprisingly feelings ran very high. (I had a narrow escape myself.) Yes, you did get everyday Irish people being asked if they that was a bomb in their shopping bag. It wasn’t pleasant but I don’t think you’ll find any country in the world that wouldn’t react in similar ways (and possibly much worse). Muslim countries are no different.

There were then, and still are today, many people of Irish descent or nationality living in the UK. At times they experienced negative reactions. Although they were not especially marked out by appearance (as some Muslims are in the US) Irish people have a very distinctive accent. Certainly, there was a time when a Northern Irish accent was not a good thing to have.

Unfortunately, many English people could not tell the difference between a Southern and Northern Irish accent, so many southerners also became objects of suspicion. Also, ironically, half of the Northern Ireland population are Protestants who are loyal to the UK – yet they too were mistaken for being potential Catholic terrorists (the IRA).

The effect of this was that many plainly innocent Irish people experienced discrimination and negative reaction - just as innocent Muslims are today. In fact this is one of the objectives of the terrorists. The IRA knew perfectly well that their actions would make life very difficult for moderate Irish people living in the UK. They hoped that this discrimination would itself radicalize more people and drive them into a more extreme mindframe. The same tactic can be seen with Muslim terrorist groups today. You have to say it's working.

Irish people became objects of suspicion (and there were many, many more bombs than America has so far experienced so the provocation was far greater). However, it was never so bad that Irish people felt they had to leave the country in any noticeable numbers.

What is truly remarkable is how quickly that anti-Irish prejudice has passed. The Troubles have been over for about 10 years (apart from isolated incidents). Irish people have not only rapidly ceased to be regarded as security risks, but Ireland has even experienced a kind of weird ‘trendy’ phase (although that is also passing as these things do). You will find many English people who positively identify themselves as being Irish, even though their relationship is minimal. Being Irish is popular. Even in the very cities that were bombed.

For that reason I think the anti Muslim sentiment in the US can pass very quickly in the future, if other conditions fall into line.
 
^ only. Decent post I've seen from you- humanizes you for a change!
 
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So I suppose in the same way Americans are being accused of blindly following the media and believing the men are guilty some Muslims are already jumping on the conspiracy theory train and assuming they're innocent. Or hoping.
 
Salam alaykum

American goverment should give in budget more money to mentaly problems and less to new wars. I have seen that almost every presidents there leave to history about amount of wars they have started. Not only victims haven´t been in others countries but also American soldiers.

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They blood is as valuable to themselves and to they relative like everyone elses.
 
Salam alaykum

American goverment should give in budget more money to mentaly problems and less to new wars. I have seen that almost every presidents there leave to history about amount of wars they have started. Not only victims haven´t been in others countries but also American soldiers.

imsad

They blood is as valuable to themselves and to they relative like everyone elses.

America doesnt care about its people, it only cares about its neocon policy at the behest of zionists.
The soldiers or america's allies in general are just pawns to be used.
 
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as deviant as the Iranians are it would be a very dumb move if the US were to invade. They've nuclear capabilities and see organized and extremely intelligent at warfare plus can easy ally with n Korea and china we're looking at WW3 if a stupid move like that is to be made.
Statesman line their soldiers and the people of everywhere suffer - sobhan Allah we will have to watch and see!
 
If a teenager was able to shutdown the city of Boston while sending probably hundreds of law enforcement and even military personnel going street to street and house to house looking for him, I can only imagine what would happen if a group or groups of people carried out a planned attack across the entire nation. Attack Iran? Yea, I'd probably hold off on that.
 
This has happened in Ireland too

I live in Ireland which, as you may know, was the scene of many years of terrorism both here and across the water in the UK. I see some parallels with what is happening now.

I won’t go into the complexities of the issues at stake because that's not important here. The key comparison I want to make is with the way Irish people were treated during the ‘Troubles’, as the era was called. Many bombs were planted in London and other cities over a period of many years, most of which caused civilian casualties. Not surprisingly feelings ran very high. (I had a narrow escape myself.) Yes, you did get everyday Irish people being asked if they that was a bomb in their shopping bag. It wasn’t pleasant but I don’t think you’ll find any country in the world that wouldn’t react in similar ways (and possibly much worse). Muslim countries are no different.

There were then, and still are today, many people of Irish descent or nationality living in the UK. At times they experienced negative reactions. Although they were not especially marked out by appearance (as some Muslims are in the US) Irish people have a very distinctive accent. Certainly, there was a time when a Northern Irish accent was not a good thing to have.

Unfortunately, many English people could not tell the difference between a Southern and Northern Irish accent, so many southerners also became objects of suspicion. Also, ironically, half of the Northern Ireland population are Protestants who are loyal to the UK – yet they too were mistaken for being potential Catholic terrorists (the IRA).

The effect of this was that many plainly innocent Irish people experienced discrimination and negative reaction - just as innocent Muslims are today. In fact this is one of the objectives of the terrorists. The IRA knew perfectly well that their actions would make life very difficult for moderate Irish people living in the UK. They hoped that this discrimination would itself radicalize more people and drive them into a more extreme mindframe. The same tactic can be seen with Muslim terrorist groups today. You have to say it's working.

Irish people became objects of suspicion (and there were many, many more bombs than America has so far experienced so the provocation was far greater). However, it was never so bad that Irish people felt they had to leave the country in any noticeable numbers.

What is truly remarkable is how quickly that anti-Irish prejudice has passed. The Troubles have been over for about 10 years (apart from isolated incidents). Irish people have not only rapidly ceased to be regarded as security risks, but Ireland has even experienced a kind of weird ‘trendy’ phase (although that is also passing as these things do). You will find many English people who positively identify themselves as being Irish, even though their relationship is minimal. Being Irish is popular. Even in the very cities that were bombed.

For that reason I think the anti Muslim sentiment in the US can pass very quickly in the future, if other conditions fall into line.
Great post, Independent.
I especially like the positive outlook of the last paragraph.

Did Irish people feel persecuted and discriminated against back then, as (some) Muslims seem to feel today?
 
Perhaps this should go in the Puzzles and Humour section, but I thought this thread needed a little cheering up. ;D

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So I suppose in the same way Americans are being accused of blindly following the media and believing the men are guilty some Muslims are already jumping on the conspiracy theory train and assuming they're innocent. Or hoping.

True dat. It's funny how some who deride everyone else of being a brainwashed slave of "Western-Zionist media" uncritically jump on and embrace any conspiracy theory as long as it offers an apparently valid explanation that conforms to their preconceived idea of who history's good and bad guys are.
 
True dat. It's funny how some who deride everyone else of being a brainwashed slave of "Western-Zionist media" uncritically jump on and embrace any conspiracy theory as long as it offers an apparently valid explanation that conforms to their preconceived idea of who history's good and bad guys are.
I think it shown that people just like to have their own beliefs and hopes confirmed - even to the point of ignoring any contradicting evidence.

Sometimes it is painful to accept the truth.
 
This has happened in Ireland too

I live in Ireland which, as you may know, was the scene of many years of terrorism both here and across the water in the UK. I see some parallels with what is happening now.

I won’t go into the complexities of the issues at stake because that's not important here. The key comparison I want to make is with the way Irish people were treated during the ‘Troubles’, as the era was called. Many bombs were planted in London and other cities over a period of many years, most of which caused civilian casualties. Not surprisingly feelings ran very high. (I had a narrow escape myself.) Yes, you did get everyday Irish people being asked if they that was a bomb in their shopping bag. It wasn’t pleasant but I don’t think you’ll find any country in the world that wouldn’t react in similar ways (and possibly much worse). Muslim countries are no different.

There were then, and still are today, many people of Irish descent or nationality living in the UK. At times they experienced negative reactions. Although they were not especially marked out by appearance (as some Muslims are in the US) Irish people have a very distinctive accent. Certainly, there was a time when a Northern Irish accent was not a good thing to have.

Unfortunately, many English people could not tell the difference between a Southern and Northern Irish accent, so many southerners also became objects of suspicion. Also, ironically, half of the Northern Ireland population are Protestants who are loyal to the UK – yet they too were mistaken for being potential Catholic terrorists (the IRA).

The effect of this was that many plainly innocent Irish people experienced discrimination and negative reaction - just as innocent Muslims are today. In fact this is one of the objectives of the terrorists. The IRA knew perfectly well that their actions would make life very difficult for moderate Irish people living in the UK. They hoped that this discrimination would itself radicalize more people and drive them into a more extreme mindframe. The same tactic can be seen with Muslim terrorist groups today. You have to say it's working.

Irish people became objects of suspicion (and there were many, many more bombs than America has so far experienced so the provocation was far greater). However, it was never so bad that Irish people felt they had to leave the country in any noticeable numbers.

What is truly remarkable is how quickly that anti-Irish prejudice has passed. The Troubles have been over for about 10 years (apart from isolated incidents). Irish people have not only rapidly ceased to be regarded as security risks, but Ireland has even experienced a kind of weird ‘trendy’ phase (although that is also passing as these things do). You will find many English people who positively identify themselves as being Irish, even though their relationship is minimal. Being Irish is popular. Even in the very cities that were bombed.

For that reason I think the anti Muslim sentiment in the US can pass very quickly in the future, if other conditions fall into line.

Salam alaykum

I am member in one Irish forum (oops it is actually forum of IRA and they accept there muslims member! :D ) . They call me there as Cara - Friend.

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To there I post human right matters - mostly from Palestine. Why not from somewhere else places.

Your post was great. Thanks about it, Independent.
 
True dat. It's funny how some who deride everyone else of being a brainwashed slave of "Western-Zionist media" uncritically jump on and embrace any conspiracy theory as long as it offers an apparently valid explanation that conforms to their preconceived idea of who history's good and bad guys are.

And who are the bad guys? Americans and Jews. I'm becoming increasingly certain that "Zionist" and "western" are just code for this. A smokescreen. Euphemisms serving as subconscious padding so that people won't have to accept the fact of their bigotry. Maybe not for everyone, I suppose, but the more a person is using the terms the more likely it is to be true. That's what I'm starting to think, anyway. It's getting harder and harder to avoid the conclusion the more I see. That is not to say that Zionism is a good thing or that the west is magically free of problems so kindly spare me your defensive straw man attacks: I can smell them a mile away at this point. It's just that it's becoming equally easy to smell the euphemisms of deeply hateful people. Although I admit nothing will ever raise the alarm bells to me that the vituperative use of "politically correct" always does so as long as you stay away from that one my brain won't automatically put a little check mark next to you.
 
Salam alaykum

Jews are not bad guys - Zionist might be. Remember Naturei Karta and Jew human right workers!

http://www.nkusa.org/

They try to send ambulances to Gaza.

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Christians are not bad guys - some may be racists but anyone others might be same.

Muslims are not bad guys - those whose use violence have left from any religion.

Do not kill! One of the 10 commandments of Chistianity. Same is said also in the Quran.

Stop generalization.
 
muslim doctor attacked to boston over marathon bombings
Heba Abolaban, Muslim Woman, Says She Was Attacked Over Boston Bombings (PHOTO)The Huffington Post | By Hunter Stuart

Posted: 04/18/2013 7:46 pm EDT
A Muslim woman wearing a hijab said she was attacked in the Boston area by a man who shouted that Muslims had perpetrated the twin bombings that killed three people and wounded about 170 Monday.
Heba Abolaban, a Palestinian doctor who immigrated to the United States from Syria, says she was punched in the shoulder in Malden, Mass., on Wednesday by a man who shouted "F*** you Muslims!" and "You are involved in the Boston explosions," according to the Malden Patch.
The man, described as a white male in his 30s, allegedly shouted at Abolaban for about two minutes before continuing on his way, Patch reports.
Police Chief Kevin Molis told the Boston Globe the department was looking for the suspect.
“No investigative strategy will be overlooked in order to determine who’s responsible for this,” Molis said. “This is something that as a city and as a police department we take seriously.”
Immediately after the bombs went off on Monday, police questioned a Saudi Arabian man who had burns on his hands, CBS News reported. The man's apartment, located in Revere, Mass., was searched by investigators, but he was later cleared.
While some conservative commentators, such as radio host Glenn Beck, have speculated that Middle Easterners were behind Monday's attacks, the nationalities of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects were still unknown as of Thursday afternoon. The FBI released photos of two suspects on Thursday and enlisted the public's help in tracking them down. No arrests had been made as this article was published.
Visit Malden Patch and the Boston Globe for more information on the story.

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Was he trying to be patriotic by punching a defenceless woman walking with her baby?

What an idiot and what a coward he is!

I'd love to see him try doing that to a man his size.
 
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Was he trying to be patriotic by punching a defenceless woman walking with her baby?

What an idiot and what a coward he is!

I'd love to see him try doing that to a man his size.

Kufar are always cowards, they only attack when you are weak, or defenseless, in that case when they wear weapons or are with an group. EDL here when they visited holland and thought they could gain support here were chased off only by a few muslim moroccans. Maybe not the right answer though, but it was needed.

Let them pick on us brothers but not our sisters insha'Allah. The most ironically is that they claim we beat women et cetera while they are the very first ones to do it as what was proven in this act - hypocrites
 
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