Decline of Masculinity

[titus]

In nearly all instances of necessity and self protection it is the small lithe person who is the most proficient. A large, strong powerful enemy is much easier to defeat than a small framed person, who has the knowledge of fighting skills.

If knowledge of fighting skills is equal, give me the bigger guy for the win.

There is a reason there are weight divisions in boxing and other fighting sports.

 

[Woodrow]

If knowledge of fighting skills is equal, give me the bigger guy for the win.

There is a reason there are weight divisions in boxing and other fighting sports.

That is true providing both are engaging in the same form of fighting and both are abiding by the rules.

A large target is much easier to hit than a small target although the large target will have to be hit more times.

My stepfather who was a heavy weight Boxer often served as a sparring partner for Willie Pep a feather weight. On more than one occasion Willie inflicted serious pain upon my step father.

A small lithe fighter has the advantage of speed, agility. The large fighter has the advantage of weight and power, he can disable the small fighter with one blow. But, that blow has to connect with the target, which can prove to be difficult.

A humming bird is much smaller and much less powerful than an eagle, but a humming bird can kill an eagle and it is nearly impossible for an eagle to harm a humming bird. The eagle is a fierce and intelligent fighter, but it lacks the maneuverability of the smaller birds.

If you are a combat pilot going up against an enemy aircraft, you would much rather be in an F-86 than a gigantic powerful B-52

 

[titus]

1) Your dad sparred with Willie Pep? Wow, that's pretty cool.

2) I would still put my money on the top heavyweight of any point in time over the featherweight champion. There is a reason that most fighters have great difficulty when they move up weight classes.

3) Your dad sparred with Willie Pep.... that's still cool.

 

[Woodrow]

1) Your dad sparred with Willie Pep? Wow, that's pretty cool.

2) I would still put my money on the top heavyweight of any point in time over the featherweight champion. There is a reason that most fighters have great difficulty when they move up weight classes.

3) Your dad sparred with Willie Pep.... that's still cool.

My step Dad had aspirations of going places in Boxing. But, he ended up as a Tool$Die designer and anyhow it turned out he was better at that. However, he kept boxing as an avocation and lived close enough to NYC and Hartford and Willie was often at both, he went to work part time for Willie as a sparring partner when ever willie was in the area. They got to be pretty good friends. I watched Willie box quite often but can not say I ever got to know him. I was just a young kid about 5 the first time I saw him box. Just a touch of trivia Willie started boxing pro when I was 5 days old. He was 18 years old at the time. Willie was quite fast, almost impossible for anybody to hit him that is what got him the nickname "Will O' the Wisp"

My step dad was quite big 6'3 and nearly 300 pounds. Very solid build. To look at the two you would say Willie would not have a chance. If my step dad ever got to connect a punch Willie would have been sent into the middle of next year. I don't think my step dad ever got in a solid punch, but willie would get in about a dozen before my step dad could blink. My step dad once told me that getting hit by Willie at first seemed like a mosquito bite, but the little rascal was so fast and could get in so many hits that they soon felt like being hit with a hammer.

Now to relate this back to the topic. My step Dad had a body builders shape, but all the muscles were not functional. Willie did not have what you could call a body builder, but he had vert well leg and arm muscles which are what he needed. It is hard to say which of the two men was the most Masculine. Neither was Muslim, so can't use that for comparing one to the other. Perhaps they both lacked in true Masculinity as neither was what one could call pious. However Willie was quite devout as a Catholic.

 

[h-n]

Actors show to people their looks, promote how they can treat females ie buying them gifts etc.

Even Prophet Joseph peace be upon him did not want to end up being stupid, as Males can behave when getting attention from females.

There are lies, for example if an Actor, footballer did not have money, then would they have lots of females wanting to be with them??? No. So do they really like that person for who he is? No? If there was lets say the same female who liked an Actor and she talks about his looks etc, and then what about if the same person did not become and actor, but worked nearby in a meat factory, would this female still like him so much?

The Prophets were good-looking, well-mannered, but people did not like them because of this, of course even people rejected them because they taught people to be good. We did not listen to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him because he was going to give us presents.

There are I can see, people have the habit of using Males who are not religious as an example of being a Man.

Well I would ask who is better then;-

Prophet Ibrahim peace be upon him?
Prophet Jesus peace be upon him?
Prophet Noah peace be upon him?
Prophet Moses peace be upon him?
Prophet Lut peace be upon him?
Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him?

So we start by looking at the Prophets first, not a singer, actor etc. The Prophets were the best of Men. So makes sense to start using them as examples.

Man = one who worships Allah, remembers the Day of Judgement and in Paradise and Hell.

There has never been any other defintion of being a Man, in worshipping Allah, and he has created us to worship him. The definitions that people use are society ones, wereby they look at being acceptable to others, to gain attention from others. That is poor, as of course in Islam no one can open the gates of Paradise for you, so if you spent 10 years showing off to a group of people, when they cannot help you on the Day of Judgement, then what is they point of showing off to them, when you will not care about them and they neither of you? Of course there is not.