Did Jesus (p) Deny Being God?

Let me tell you dear friend......i agree with the REAL scriptures of the old and new testiment....I beleive in Jesus(p) Moses(p) David(p) Soloman(p) Abraham(p) and other prophets, if i didnt i wouldnt be one who submits to GOD(muslim)...but remember, Scriptures that have not been tampered with...

peace to you
 
Let me tell you dear friend......i agree with the REAL scriptures of the old and new testiment....I beleive in Jesus(p) Moses(p) David(p) Soloman(p) Abraham(p) and other prophets, if i didnt i wouldnt be one who submits to GOD(muslim)...but remember, Scriptures that have not been tampered with...

peace to you

I love you really I do...

I also follow God through Jesus Christ which makes me a Muslim if I might add
 
Bismillah

Also, remember that G-d cannot be tempted by evil.

"Let no one say when he is tempted: 'I am being tempted by God'; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone" (James 1:13).

Jesus (peace be upon him) was indeed tempted.

"For because he himself has suffered and has been tempted, he is able to come to the aid of those who are tempted" (Hebrews 2:18).

Mark simply states that Jesus was tempted by Satan (1:13) but Matthew (4:1-11) and Luke (4:1-13) elaborate the story. It is claimed that during Jesus' alleged forty days' sojourn in the desert, following his baptism by John, Satan tempted him with promises of an earthly kingdom if Jesus would only worship him.

I would like to state that being Tempted does not mean that you sin.. Testing of the faith is good.. that is what satan did to Jesus.

He(satan) is the tempter of Jesus which Jesus overcomes the enemy

He( satan ) leads Judas to betray Jesus
He leads peter to deny Jesus
He Leads ananias to sin
His Prime target is you and me

Yes according to scripture to live is Christ and to die is gain. meaning we must live like Christ ( serve, take our scars, take our wounds, ect. ) and die is gain... wouldn't you agree to these statements?
 
well actually Jesus vaguely said He was God and strongly said that He was Lord.

these verses from John chapter 8 shows Jesus calling Himself God vaguely

verse 23-24 --- You are from below, I am from above, you are of this world: I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I AM, you will indeed die in your sins.

QUOTE]

Bismillah


Peace.

All of the proof that you have provided can be refuted solely by using your own text. I can also provide many proofs that Jesus (peace be upon him) denied being G-d , the MOST HIGH. All that you listed were implicit statements, that do not prove He (peace be upon him) was G-d, the MOST HIGH. Verses used out of context can mean anything one wants it to mean.

verses that I used out of context? you can easily see that I used these verses in the rightfully context.. maybe you should read the verses IN CONTEXTS. and tell me what you think.

I would like to see what are the verses where He denied being God.
 
is Jesus the son of God, or the part of 'three in one' God? this is really unclear
 
is Jesus the son of God, or the part of 'three in one' God? this is really unclear

Jesus is the Word of God incarnated. which makes Him God. like I posted in my posts...

Jesus is not the LITERAL Son of God like a Child is to a FATHER and MOTHER


the Term Son of God means Close... Jesus is Close to God.. because Christ died on the Cross we are able to be close to God.

the Word is God since the Word is Part of God. the Word is seated at the Right Hand of God and will come again ( I am not saying that He will come agian to argue that He is coming again.. Oh NO... I am telling you this to help you understand what the Term Son of GOd means )
 
Jesus is the Word of God incarnated. which makes Him God. like I posted in my posts...

Jesus is not the LITERAL Son of God like a Child is to a FATHER and MOTHER


the Term Son of God means Close... Jesus is Close to God.. because Christ died on the Cross we are able to be close to God.

the Word is God since the Word is Part of God. the Word is seated at the Right Hand of God and will come again ( I am not saying that He will come agian to argue that He is coming again.. Oh NO... I am telling you this to help you understand what the Term Son of GOd means )
i still dont get:? what does the trinity mean then:?
 
lol ...... first you say hes GOD,

then you say he is ClOSE to GOD.....if hes GOD how could he die????

let alone by his own creation?????


the QURAN is the word of GOD, Does that make it GOD NOW???
 
lol ...... first you say hes GOD,

then you say he is ClOSE to GOD.....if hes GOD how could he die????

let alone by his own creation?????


the QURAN is the word of GOD, Does that make it GOD NOW???


Jesus is the Word of God incarnated. which makes Him God in the Word there is no lie,
in Gods Word there is life, In Gods word there is comfort.




I think Nicole would have to explain why the Word of God in human flesh could die.

According to the Bible the Word of God is living... is the Quran living or is it dead? if its dead then infact no it isn't God..
 
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ok i still dont get it...


first you say hes GOD ....

then you say he is ClOSE to GOD ....

if hes GOD how could his own creation kill him ?????


ps. why would nicole have to explain something?? dont you know the answers to what your preaching??
 
ok i still dont get it...


first you say hes GOD ....

then you say he is ClOSE to GOD ....

if hes GOD how could his own creation kill him ?????


ps. why would nicole have to explain something?? dont you know the answers to what your preaching??

yes I did say that.. the term Son of God really shows how close He is to God..
The Word is God its Always been around. I guess picture you on your chair and you are speaking- now some how you are able to incarnate those words into flesh that would make the incarnated words... you.
 
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yes I did say that.. the term Son of God really shows how close He is to God..

The Word is God its Always been around. I guess picture you on your chair and you are speaking- now some how you are able to incarnate those words into flesh that would make the incarnated words... you.


ok you make no sense friend, you say it shows how close he is to GOD,

then you say he is GOD? thats not maken sense....
 
ok you make no sense friend, you say it shows how close he is to GOD,

then you say he is GOD? thats not maken sense....

the Term Son of God- shows how close the Word of God is... whe people used Son of whatever. it wasnt stating that they were literally the Son of that whatever... I believe in the quran it states that there was someone that was Son of the Road...

may I asked you what the Son of the road means?

God and the Word are totally different essences... but God incarnated His Word into Flesh in which his Word is also God.. since the Word belongs to God
 
ok dont change the subject on me now...

you say"yes I did say that.. the term Son of God really shows how close He is to God.."

you say also "which makes Him God"

uhh that is a contradiction....he close to GOD, but then hes GOD ???
which one is it??


you also say ." God and the Word are totally different essences... but God incarnated His Word into Flesh in which his Word is also God.. since the Word belongs to God...

wheres your proof??
 
According to the Bible the Word of God is living... is the Quran living or is it dead? if its dead then infact no it isn't God..


Al-Quran is Kalamullah. It's Speech of God. How can you equate speech with the speaker? A speech is a speech and not the speaker. If I say, "Hello" does this mean "Hello" is me? I'm a human, can I possibly be a word, book or sentence? Except you're speaking metaphorically, that is, to read a person like a book.

My previous discussion with brother Ansar Al-`Adl helped me explaining about the Quran as the Word of God and its position in book form.

A book is an actual form in which words are recorded. A book containing the words of God denotes a book which ahs characters and symbols which collectively represent the words of God. But no one records words in the form of living things. A person is not like a book that can be recited.

But anyway, the major point is this: Christians don't just say that Christ is the word of God, they say that Christ IS God. Muslims on the other hand never claimed that the Qur'an is God!
 
Al-Quran is Kalamullah. It's Speech of God. How can you equate speech with the speaker? A speech is a speech and not the speaker. If I say, "Hello" does this mean "Hello" is me? I'm a human, can I possibly be a word, book or sentence? Except you're speaking metaphorically, that is, to read a person like a book.


Well you are a human like you say...but God is not...anything is possible for God...Gods' word is Jesus who He made into flesh..to live amongst us.

Joh 1:12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,

Joh 1:13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Joh 1:15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.'")

God turned his own living word into flesh.
Jesus (Word) was in God from the very beginning also Gods Spirit..who we now have indwellling in us, the gift of Gods' Holy Spirit.

JohnJoh 14:9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

Joh 14:10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me?

Because Jesus is Gods word...Jesus (word) only speaks what God says. It is God who is speaking.

The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works.

Joh 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else believe on account of the works themselves.

The works Jesus did could have only been done by the father...no human could have done this things. Only God.


Joh 14:12 "Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.

Joh 14:13 Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

Joh 14:14 If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.

Joh 14:15 "If you love me, you will keep my commandments.


Is.7:14-15.

"The Lord himself, therefore, will give you a sign. It is this: the maiden is with child and will soon give birth to a son whom she will call Immanuel."


Immanuel or Emmanuel or Imanu'el (עִמָּנוּאֵל "God [is] with us",)

God foretold us He was going to dwell on earth with mankind.

Mat 1:20 But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "
Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.
Mat 1:21 She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins."
Mat 1:22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet:
Mat 1:23
"Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel" (which means, God with us).
 
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i refuse to beleive any word from the bible, becuase it has been altered, and thats a fact...

and why would GOD let Jesus die.....

ok so nicola, you established that jesus is not GOD, rather his WORD...? correct??

p.s, do you think JESUS 9p) was white?? or what nationality
 
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