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I need some advice. Yesterday I got into an arguement with a girl. This girl used to be really close to me a few years ago. But then we grew apart because she started to lose her islamic identity, and eventually she stopped praying all together. But I didn't give up hope. I tried to give her as much Da'wah as possible, and make Du'a for her. Yesterday when I saw her she wasn't wearing her Hijab. This really made me upset. I tried to speak to her about it in a nice calm way. She just kept ignoring my comments and turning away. This made me even more upset. So I started to tell her about the story of Nabi Nuh (as) and how the people used to turn away from him, and thrust their fingers into their ears, and how disliked this was to Allah 'azza wa jal. She then started to thrust her fingers into her ears in imitation of the people of Nabi Nuh (AS). I was really astonished. I asked her if she was mocking the Qur'an, but she continued to thrust her fingers in her ears, and started jesting at me to her friend. I didn't mind that she made fun of me, but my face grew hot at the thought of her mocking the words of Allah 'azza wa jal. I tried to make her stop, but she just told me to 'shut up'. I was with another girl, so I was silent for a moment and contemplated something I had listened to the night before. In the lecture 'Anger- a satanic trait' by Abu Yusuf Riyadh Ul Haq. In that lecture he spoke of how The Prophet (SAW) would nver get angry at what people did to him, but he would get angry for the sake of Islam, and the situation of the Ummah. And he also spoke of cases of the sincere sahaba disowning their own family because they mocked Islam, and living to their word. I did not make an oath, but I really felt like I shouldn't speak to her until she changes. It's not as if I can help her, she refuses to listen. So I just got up and silently walked away with my other friend. The whole situation has made me very upset.

Have I done the right thing?

:w::rose::peace:
 
Salaam

I suggest you keep the door open and just inform her you'll be there for her you never know she might come back to the straight path.
 
but the thing is how can i befriend such a person who mocks the Ayat of Allah? It just seems impossible to me. If I even speak one kalimah about islam she turns her face and tries to silence me.
"Who shall guide them after Allah has sealed their hearts?"
I really feel the best I can do now is make du'a....
 
Salaam

well from what I've heard anyone who mocks the quran or any aspect of the religion has left islam, because how can one believe if they're mocking the deen, if all fails only thing one can do is make dua.
 
:sl: Sister,

I was in a situation kind of similar last year. The situation was this girl was dating a Christian and as a result she was disrespecting her parents too since they did not approve (and Islamic ruling altogether). I would explain ayats, hadiths and the aspect of marriage from an Islamic point of view to her and she would still ask me questions trying to find a permissible excuse for her behavior. I would keep explaining until she said she would leave Islam for her boyfriend because she loves him:rollseyes . After that I stopped because it was absolutely useless. If you read 2:18 you will know exactly what I mean.

Please sister, do not feel discouraged. You did the best you could and Allah Ta'ala will reward you for your efforts, Inshallah. As for this girl, it is up to the will of Allah Ta'ala if she will return or stay on the path of those who have gone astray.
 
:sl:

Unfortunately, nowadays, so many Muslims treat Islam as if they're doing it a favour by belonging to it. SubHaanAllah! I refer to examples like the ones given in this thread (where we fear for these Muslim's Imaan). We as an Ummah need to realise that we need Islam and Allah, and definitely not the other way around. Allah is al-Ganiyy and we are al-fuqaraa'.

If Allah disowns us, we have no hope! We pray to Allah to keep us firm and steadfast, and for Him to keep us in His protection forever. Oh Allah, we love You and everything that reminds us of You.

:w:

A.
 
Salam
Carry on making du'a for her and try your best with da'wah. If possible, try speaking to her one-to-one, as she'll most likely listen to your words and take them in. I have had many similar experiences with people and most of the time its the friends they keep in their company that drives them away from Islam.
May Allah guide us all
Wassalam
 
salam
may allah give that sister guidance and may allah protect us all
continue to make dua for her and keep reminding her of islam inshallah
wasalam
 
:sl: you should try to remind her that when she mocks the quran shes not hurting allah(swt) shes hurting her self and she will be juged for it just try making dua for her :w:
 
youre a very strong sister.....mashaallah....im proud of you....Allah will open the heart of those He chooses and close the hearts fo those He chooses ( i keep telling this to everyne for the past few weeks i dunno but it just keep poppin up)....you did a right thing......all you have to do is stay on your deen......if she doesnt come correct now, she might come later......but all in all Allah is giving her a test right now.....and she is doing some things that you cant understand, maybe she sins on purpose too, maybe inspite......and maybe she will come back to Islam stronger than she ever was.....
if you care for her keep up on thoe dawahs and du'as.....and inshaallah everything should be ok......
just dont pressure her into anything......sometimes you can throw most obvious truth to someone and they will deny it....this is all a test

peace
bez
 
~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
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I need some advice. Yesterday I got into an arguement with a girl. This girl used to be really close to me a few years ago. But then we grew apart because she started to lose her islamic identity, and eventually she stopped praying all together. But I didn't give up hope. I tried to give her as much Da'wah as possible, and make Du'a for her. Yesterday when I saw her she wasn't wearing her Hijab. This really made me upset. I tried to speak to her about it in a nice calm way. She just kept ignoring my comments and turning away. This made me even more upset. So I started to tell her about the story of Nabi Nuh (as) and how the people used to turn away from him, and thrust their fingers into their ears, and how disliked this was to Allah 'azza wa jal. She then started to thrust her fingers into her ears in imitation of the people of Nabi Nuh (AS). I was really astonished. I asked her if she was mocking the Qur'an, but she continued to thrust her fingers in her ears, and started jesting at me to her friend. I didn't mind that she made fun of me, but my face grew hot at the thought of her mocking the words of Allah 'azza wa jal. I tried to make her stop, but she just told me to 'shut up'. I was with another girl, so I was silent for a moment and contemplated something I had listened to the night before. In the lecture 'Anger- a satanic trait' by Abu Yusuf Riyadh Ul Haq. In that lecture he spoke of how The Prophet (SAW) would nver get angry at what people did to him, but he would get angry for the sake of Islam, and the situation of the Ummah. And he also spoke of cases of the sincere sahaba disowning their own family because they mocked Islam, and living to their word. I did not make an oath, but I really felt like I shouldn't speak to her until she changes. It's not as if I can help her, she refuses to listen. So I just got up and silently walked away with my other friend. The whole situation has made me very upset.

Have I done the right thing?

:w::rose::peace:
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Sis I think that what you are duin for your mate is mashaAllah wicked!!:) May Allah(swt) reward you for all your efforts and guide your friend on the straight path...but sister you cant jus cut off all ties with her, from what Ive heard you seem to have had a tyt bond with her.... I dont think its fair on her part........ I mean I myself dont wear a hijab :hiding: :hiding: :hiding: but if my mates decided not to talk to me because of this then Id be well hurt!! Plus sis theres loadsa ppl out there hu dont cover like they meant to.... Dont get me wrong, Im not sayin that what she did was right, I mean no1 has the ryt to mock Islam or our way of life Im jus sayin.......keep tryin with her inshaAllah :okay: :happy: :happy:
 
Pinkie said:
:sl: Sister,

I was in a situation kind of similar last year. The situation was this girl was dating a Christian and as a result she was disrespecting her parents too since they did not approve (and Islamic ruling altogether). I would explain ayats, hadiths and the aspect of marriage from an Islamic point of view to her and she would still ask me questions trying to find a permissible excuse for her behavior. I would keep explaining until she said she would leave Islam for her boyfriend because she loves him:rollseyes . After that I stopped because it was absolutely useless. If you read 2:18 you will know exactly what I mean.

Please sister, do not feel discouraged. You did the best you could and Allah Ta'ala will reward you for your efforts, Inshallah. As for this girl, it is up to the will of Allah Ta'ala if she will return or stay on the path of those who have gone astray.
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2:18 Deaf, dumb and blind. So they will not return [to the right path].
Man that was SO what was on my mind! She knows ALOT about the religion, due to the fact that she used to practice. She's older than me too, so in some situations she used to have more hikmah. But now.... *sigh* Ya Allah please guide her!

I know many sisters who do not cover. Most of them do not know much about the deen. I don't cut people off because they sin, what angered me was that she mocked the deen, while being quite versed in it. To me it felt like she was stepping into a whole new world of sin. I was really angry, but alhamdulillah I was sitting down (I was in the mall so i couldn't exactly lie down in front of all those non mahrems:)).

Allah guides whom He wills....

:w::rose::peace:
 
yAH I DNT THINK U SHULD GIVE UP!!!!

Keep trying and make lots of duasss!
 
:sl:

Subhân'Allâh, this sounds just like my situation..
The sister I spent most of my time with really went astray.. She started dating, clubbing, drinking, listening to music etc., and she used to be sooo smart, and she knows alot about the deen actually.. She's the one who helped me praying, being 100% sure about Islâm etc.
But the best thing you can do, is make du'â, give her da'wah, but don't be like: What are you doing, sister, that is haraam, you have to cover yourself and so on.. Because, she already knows that she is sinning.. Just have patience, don't talk to her as much as before, if you can get influenced by her, but don't cut of all relations with her..
I talked to the sister, but she didn't wanna listen, so I told her, that it was up to her, I couldn't do anything really.. But I kept sending her islamic messages, articles and stuff like that, telling her to turn off the music, and kept asking her if she wanted to pray with me.. And now alhamdulillâh, she listens to qur'ân.. Not all the time, the music is still there, but at least she changed that part a bit.. & she is thinking about wearing hijab again, and dumping her boyfriend.. So, really have patience & make du'â for her.. It's really hard, especially if the sister is really close to you!

May Allâh ta'âla guide us to the straight path, ameen!

:w:
 
the problem isn't that she sins. Pretty much everyone does that (some more than others). The problem is that she mocked the ayat of Allah! I want to know if this is enough to stop speaking to someone (at least until she sees some sense). I feel like i'd be betraying Allah if I spoke with such a person:(.
 
~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
the problem isn't that she sins. Pretty much everyone does that (some more than others). The problem is that she mocked the ayat of Allah! I want to know if this is enough to stop speaking to someone (at least until she sees some sense). I feel like i'd be betraying Allah if I spoke with such a person:(.
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The problem is that she mocked the ayat of Allah! I want to know if this is enough to stop speaking to someone
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Yes of course! You should stop talking to her immediately. Never again speak to her or mention her name. You must punish her and show her that islam is intolerant and has no forgiveness for sinners like her. You truly have the right to be the judge of 'such a person'.
 
Malsidabym said:
Yes of course! You should stop talking to her immediately. Never again speak to her or mention her name. You must punish her and show her that islam is intolerant and has no forgiveness for sinners like her. You truly have the right to be the judge of 'such a person'.
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You must punish her and show her that islam is intolerant and has no forgiveness for sinners like her. You truly have the right to be the judge of 'such a person'
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ummmm.. islam is intolerant and has no forgiveness for sinners like her? who are you to say such things? Only Allah swt decides who can be forgiven and who cant be. In fact the ONLY sin that cannot be forgiven is SHIRK (associating partners with Allah swt) No one has the right to judge this girl except Allah swt!
 
Ladee_Maryam said:
ummmm.. islam is intolerant and has no forgiveness for sinners like her? who are you to say such things? Only Allah swt decides who can be forgiven and who cant be. In fact the ONLY sin that cannot be forgiven is SHIRK (associating partners with Allah swt) No one has the right to judge this girl except Allah swt!
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I agree completely. I was showing through sarcasm how this might seem to her friend that is likely going through a socially confusing time. It would be better to be a friend and nonjudgemental. I assumed the sarcasm was obvious enough that anyone reading would see what was truly being said.

The "such a person' highlight should have given it away.
 

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