Disowning?

Why can't you just be her friend anyway, I have friends who sometimes mock my way of life, but they usually do it unthinkingly. Why don't you just say something like this- "I accept that you are no longer a practising muslim, but please don't mock Islam as it hurts me deeply and I consider you a good friend, and friends should respect each others views"
 
Malsidabym said:
Yes of course! You should stop talking to her immediately. Never again speak to her or mention her name. You must punish her and show her that islam is intolerant and has no forgiveness for sinners like her. You truly have the right to be the judge of 'such a person'.
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Do you know me or my friend, no? Then please shut up.
 
irsha said:
Why can't you just be her friend anyway, I have friends who sometimes mock my way of life, but they usually do it unthinkingly. Why don't you just say something like this- "I accept that you are no longer a practising muslim, but please don't mock Islam as it hurts me deeply and I consider you a good friend, and friends should respect each others views"
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Mock me, that's oen thing. Mock my deen, prophet, Lord, that is another. In Islam we do not tolerate Muslims mocking Allah,The Messenger or our religion. Obviously we have to be tolerant when none Muslims do it, because tehy may not be educated on Islam. Anyway, i'm trying to do the right thing in Islam, not what society at the moment feels is right.
 
~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
Do you know me or my friend, no? Then please shut up.
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It is unfortunate that you have decided to respond in such a rude way.

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
“The Muslim does not slander, curse, speak obscenely or speak rudely.”

I offer again the rationale behind the post that you refer to.
I agree completely. I was showing through sarcasm how this might seem to her friend that is likely going through a socially confusing time. It would be better to be a friend and nonjudgemental. I assumed the sarcasm was obvious enough that anyone reading would see what was truly being said.
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Perhaps you might reconsider your response.
 
Malsidabym said:
It is unfortunate that you have decided to respond in such a rude way.

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
“The Muslim does not slander, curse, speak obscenely or speak rudely.”

I offer again the rationale behind the post that you refer to.

Perhaps you might reconsider your response.
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Ok. That is very nice. You are the nicest person in the world. And to sum up your character, you're just nice.
Happy now?
 
~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
Ok. That is very nice. You are the nicest person in the world. And to sum up your character, you're just nice.
Happy now?
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No. As you are obviously still upset with me. I apologize. Perhaps I am not the right person to offer advice to you about your relationship with your friend. Good luck.
 
I don't think you need to be a muslim to understand relationships and the way people feel. It is just a matter of trying to see it from the other persons point of view. I truly am sorry for offending you but my explanation for my post still stands. I assume from the explanation you gave of your friends behavior that she is a young person, and drawing on my own experience as a young person I would say it is likely your friend is confused about life/religious/social issues. Now is a time when you should be understanding so as not to drive her away from religion/god entirely. Once again, sorry for offending you.
 
~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
Mock me, that's oen thing. Mock my deen, prophet, Lord, that is another. In Islam we do not tolerate Muslims mocking Allah,The Messenger or our religion. Obviously we have to be tolerant when none Muslims do it, because tehy may not be educated on Islam. Anyway, i'm trying to do the right thing in Islam, not what society at the moment feels is right.
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I have noticed how rude you are to people who just offer some friendly advice. I didn't say anything about what society feels is right, I was just offering advice, as did others, from someone who has been through similar things. Perhaps your friend was turned away from your way of life because of your rude attitude.
 
irsha said:
I have noticed how rude you are to people who just offer some friendly advice. I didn't say anything about what society feels is right, I was just offering advice, as did others, from someone who has been through similar things. Perhaps your friend was turned away from your way of life because of your rude attitude.
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can we stop being harsh to this sis please and fear our lord!
thanx

take care
 
Harsh? people offer friendly advice, just trying to be nice and she nearly rips our heads off! It seems to me, that she has made her mind up to ban her asd a friend and is just looking for validationor accolades.
 
irsha said:
I have noticed how rude you are to people who just offer some friendly advice. I didn't say anything about what society feels is right, I was just offering advice, as did others, from someone who has been through similar things. Perhaps your friend was turned away from your way of life because of your rude attitude.
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Hmm, I was rude to you? Ok. Well please accept my heart felt apology.
 
irsha said:
Harsh? people offer friendly advice, just trying to be nice and she nearly rips our heads off! It seems to me, that she has made her mind up to ban her asd a friend and is just looking for validationor accolades.
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sis just chill out please take it easy :happy:

take care
 
I am chilled, just had a cold shower, sorry if I was touchy, but I just find sometimes that muslims never listen to anyone but people who say they are musilms, and it is insulting that our opinions are often valued so little ( I am not saying she did that, but it came across that way)
 
irsha said:
I am chilled, just had a cold shower, sorry if I was touchy, but I just find sometimes that muslims never listen to anyone but people who say they are musilms, and it is insulting that our opinions are often valued so little ( I am not saying she did that, but it came across that way)
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sis you've got that all wrong NOT all muzlims don't listen to people!
 
irsha said:
I am chilled, just had a cold shower, sorry if I was touchy, but I just find sometimes that muslims never listen to anyone but people who say they are musilms, and it is insulting that our opinions are often valued so little ( I am not saying she did that, but it came across that way)
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I'm sorry I came across that way to you. And i'd like to add that I was anything but rude to my companion. She was being extremely rude to me all day, and I said nothing to her. She even tried to punch me at one point.... weird I know. And when she insulted my Lord, I just slently walked away, although very very mad. I'm sorry, if that's rude, but i just can't get any politer than that hehe.
And I do value your points. I just wanted to know the islamic ruling on this matter. But thank you very much for taking the time and effort to contribute:).
-Peace
 
Thank you, I am sorry too for being touchy. If she tried to punch you, then mabye you should move on.
 
irsha said:
Thank you, I am sorry too for being touchy. If she tried to punch you, then mabye you should move on.
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I didn't give all teh details because I didn't want to backbite my sister in Islam. But now things are actually turning for the better. I've given her some time to reflect on her life, and from what i've heard she's doing that. I will leave her to Allah to guide her if He wills.
 
I hope things work out for you, a good friend is a valuable thing, not to be thrown away too lightly, I am glad you are giving it some more time.
 

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