Disowning?

irsha said:
I hope things work out for you, a good friend is a valuable thing, not to be thrown away too lightly, I am glad you are giving it some more time.
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I'm not generally an un-patient person. And because of the way I am dressed and the area that I live in, I am quite used to insults. All praise is due to Allah, it only makes me stronger each time it happens.:)
 
irsha said:
I know what you mean, its hard to be different, believe me, I know.
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Yes. There's this qoute that always gives me confidence and patience :
"Indeed, Allah is with those who are patient."
I believe it is from the Qur'an.
What gives you strength?
 
I just pity them for their intolerance, I believe intolerant people are not confident with who they are. Plus, I have plenty of friends who just accept me the way I am, and I accept myself for the way I am.
 
~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
She then started to thrust her fingers into her ears in imitation of the people of Nabi Nuh (AS). I was really astonished. I asked her if she was mocking the Qur'an, but she continued to thrust her fingers in her ears, and started jesting at me to her friend.... snip... So I just got up and silently walked away with my other friend. The whole situation has made me very upset. Have I done the right thing?

:w::rose::peace:
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The answer to that depends on "who" you talk to... which has been my problem here all along (and I thank everyone on this forum for helping me to identify this as being my problem).

I would not condone walking out on family or anyone I professed to care about. That's just plain faithless! You don't let go, but you stand your ground and keep your conviction in the sight of this person.. because that's what they need to see. Why else would they behave that way?

Of course, you could listen to Abraham, who didn't even bother to spend the energy to go rounds with his father over the idols. Thought it would be easier to just tell his dad to f off... and -iss off to Egypt.

But the trouble with Abraham's solution is that we've all multiplied on the face of the Earth, so when we disagree, we have no more land to -iss off to. We're do we go when we don't want to have to deal with each other? Deep Space?

In the end, we need to completely understand each other... we owe this much to each other. So we have to face-off and contend with these issues because they won't go away on their own. You want your friend back? Show your friend what they're getting back... a friend. And friends don't quit on each other! They don't -iss off on each other just because....

I *hate* when people do this!

Ninth Scribe

The poetry that comes,
from the squaring off between,
and the circling, is worth it.
Finding beauty in the dissonance.
 
I don't think it was nice how you described the beloved prophet Abraham (as):(. His father attempted to kill him, I don't think anyone would stand around after that unless they wanted to end up six feet under. And he wasn't rude to his father, he said he would continue to pray for him.
She is not my friend at the moment, she made that choice quite a long time ago. She is still my sister in Islam, and that was the only reason I decided to hold on. I don't think I completely described everything that happened, but we have alot of history. I still think I did the right thing though.
 
~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
I don't think it was nice how you described the beloved prophet Abraham (as):(. His father attempted to kill him, I don't think anyone would stand around after that unless they wanted to end up six feet under. And he wasn't rude to his father, he said he would continue to pray for him.
She is not my friend at the moment, she made that choice quite a long time ago. She is still my sister in Islam, and that was the only reason I decided to hold on. I don't think I completely described everything that happened, but we have alot of history. I still think I did the right thing though.
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My family is crazy too... seriously. My son dragged the family name through the sewers for four years! He had to test every single arbitrary line of the laws to be sure they were really there.... I've spent thousands in courts, this, that, the other. I have no clue how I survived it all, but he's a beautiful person now. If you can hold it all together... somehow.... everyone gets through it and past it, and beyond it. It's beautiful.

I'm sorry you're so disappointed, but life is full of that if it's all you open your eyes to.

Ninth Scribe
 
True, byt blood is thicker then water. Even in Islam we have more duties to our blood relations. But I guess I've come to the conclusion that it is Allah who guides, I can't force faith down her throat. But i'm not going to stand around and watch her sin. She doesn't want me to remind her of God, then i'm not going to be held accountable for watching her sin on the day of Judgement. Allah knows best.
-Peace
 
~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
True, but blood is thicker then water. Even in Islam we have more duties to our blood relations. But I guess I've come to the conclusion that it is Allah who guides, I can't force faith down her throat. But i'm not going to stand around and watch her sin. She doesn't want me to remind her of God, then i'm not going to be held accountable for watching her sin on the day of Judgement. Allah knows best.
-Peace
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When Allah sees his children lose faith in him... he mourns their loss. So you may mourn also. It is not your responsibility to Judge. That is for other agencies. Yes, blood is thicker than water, it is what binds you, so you remember that you have made strong obligations and commitments to these others who came with you. There is where you find the strength.

I never suggested that you fold before her. But it is your obligation to teach her faith. You can not do this by showing your strength, only your mercy in the pain she has caused you.

I pray for your family, and for the greater family that suffers this day with it.

Ninth Scribe
 

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