Dispatches: Undercover Mosque

Maarya said:
i think that we should watch the programme first before judging it.
channel 4's done loadsa programmes on muslims and islam and they havnt said anything thats too bad (not that i know of, anyway), so you never know ...
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I take it u missed the one about the 'Gay Muslims'.
 
*******

*******sm

******* school of thought

Why does the word ******* get censored?

Sunni, Shia, Salafi, Shia, Barelvi, Deobandi, Raafidhi.

The above don't.

Hmmm about the programme it's scaremongering and sensationalism on the part of channel 4. Muslims ******* or otherwise should complain about its sensationalised content.
 
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Maarya said:
i think that we should watch the programme first before judging it.
channel 4's done loadsa programmes on muslims and islam and they havnt said anything thats too bad (not that i know of, anyway), so you never know ...
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Channel 4 wouldn't be making a programme highlighting an issue, if it didn't need highlighting. The Muslim community does have its flaws, and it shouldn't come as a surprise if a journalist decides to report on it. There are gay Muslims amongst us who feel like outcastes, so they came out and exposed their grievences. What is so 'bad' about such a program? It's just mere facts being reported.
 
"Many of the preachers are linked to the ******* strain of Islam practised in Saudi Arabia"

Am assuming they are talking about the SALAFI's,
 
To tell the truth it sounds like a loada bull, but...

Yeah watever don't promote it, untill you've seen it,

Hmm...

I duno if i will be in the mood to watch it, i think ima have a headache that day!
 
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one thing to say

Dispatches = :raging: :raging: :raging:

i know its not worth it and its only a stupid Ch4 prog, but :raging: :raging: :enough!: :enough!:
 
Is this program coming on Monday the 15th?

I think the Masjid they are refering to is Regents Park Mosque. I things were wriiten in the newspaper about.
 
I doubt they are planning to say anything positive about the mosque in concern :|
 
Rabi'ya said:
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one thing to say

Dispatches = :raging: :raging: :raging:

i know its not worth it and its only a stupid Ch4 prog, but :raging: :raging: :enough!: :enough!:
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What makes you say that, sis? Channel4 makr some really good documentaries and the Dispatches programs are :thumbs_up
 
strider said:
Channel4 makr some really good documentaries and the Dispatches programs are :thumbs_up
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well Dispatches aint helping the muslims are they....all they are after are viewers...n sad it may seem yr 1 of them.

they are alwayz portraying islam in a negative manner.....n av course its entertainment 4 someone who no's nothing bout islam...
ITS ALL L.O.B
 
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yawnnnn........

why are muslims living in lands where we cannot practice our religion freely when it comes to jihad? Secretly muslims may praise those who openly oppose the enemy but themselves remain safe in their cushy homes. Isn't it true that when a muslim country is attacked jihad becomes obligatory?! But who wants to give up their comfortable lifestyle to go and be shot down in the name of Islam eh?
 
In response to the news that a British Muslim solider was killed fighting the Taliban, the speaker declares: 'The hero of Islam is the one who separated his head from his shoulders.'
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Well what is wrong with that?
Anyway you can check on islamqa on the serving in those army for those kind of war.

Another speaker says Muslims cannot accept the rule of non-Muslims. 'You cannot accept the rule of the kaffir [non-Muslim],' a preacher, Dr Ijaz Mian, tells a meeting held within the mosque. 'We have to rule ourselves and we have to rule the others.'
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Actually every muslim attest to that. When they said their shahadah. One should also check out the status of one living in a non-muslim land.

The 12-month investigation also recorded a deputy headmaster of an Islamic high school in Birmingham telling a conference at the Sparkbrook mosque that he disagrees with using the word democracy. 'They should call it ... kuffrocracy, that's their plan. It's the hidden cancerous aim of these people.' The Darul Uloom school said it no longer employed the teacher and that one of the reasons he resigned 'was the incompatibility of many of his opinions with the policies of the school'.
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Well not far from it... I do no find him disagreeing with democracy warants such a reprimand, that is his opinion, and in way of secularism it is not far from the truth.


DVDs of a preacher called Sheikh Yasin are sold. In one DVD, Yasin, who is promoted on the mosque's website, accuses missionaries from the World Health Organisation and Christian groups of putting the 'Aids virus' in the medicine of African people, 'which is a conspiracy'.
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Well that was one blunder and I too disagree with it.

Feiz says: 'Kaffir is the worst word that can ever be written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt.'
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I think they misunderstand his meaning.

Elsewhere, another preacher at a mosque in the East Midlands is caught on film, praying: 'God help us in our fight against the kaffir, in every field, in every department of life. We beg you to help us fight against the enemies of our religion.'
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Blimey what was wrong with that, one will suspect even the devil takes offense to that and he is our biggest enemy.

Green Lane mosque suggests that Muslim children should be hit if they don't pray: 'When he is seven, tell him to go and pray, and start hitting them when they are 10.' Another preacher is heard saying that if a girl 'doesn't wear hijab, we hit her'.
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Another blunder.

Another preacher says: 'The time is fast approaching where the tables are going to turn and the Muslims are going to be in the position of being uppermost in strength and, when that happens, people won't get killed - unjustly.'
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What is wrong with that? You will think hitler got killed it will be unjust, with their objection. Muslim has to do everything on the condition of justice and accordance of Quran and Sunnah.

In a statement to Channel 4, Lord Ahmed, the convener of the government's Preventing Extremism taskforce, said he was worried about the programme's consequences: 'While I appreciate that exaggerated opinions make good TV, they do not make for good community relations.'

A spokesman for Green Lane mosque said Islam does not denigrate women and that the instruction to hit a child was merely a smack. He accused C4 of intensifying the 'witch-hunt' against Muslims.

'Undercover Mosques', Dispatches, goes out at 8pm on Monday, 15 January
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Bush,** just to intensify and project their pre-concieved notion towards the ignorant masses (albeit I have not watch the film).
 
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The programme has started 8:00pm at channel 4 . If anyone wan'ts to watch it. They are pinning all it one saudi arabia of course and the american convert speaker. Also they are playing the w'ahhabi card also. LOL.

As far as I have watched it 10 minute, their is nothing said against Islam. Althought the part about not praying making one a desbeliever and there is many different opinion about it.

They are also trying to play the sexes card.

The part about hitting a child as an admonishment I do entirely agree.

They are also playing the Homosexual card aswell, as it is well aware Islam does not agree with Homosexuality.

It seem's like all the big player/scholar of Islam is in it.

They seem not to like the word Kuffar, and their was one idiot muslim who say it is a degerotary term. They must view the Quran to be degeratory aswell, since it has the word aswell.
 
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IT also say's Medina University trains brain washed preachers. LOL this get's better. A scholar called Faizul id apperently is blaming what he said to saudi arabian scholars.

So far they are doing a good job of their propaganda, it will work more on the layman muslim and non-muslim.
 
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