so let me ask, IF Jesus is your god AND your god is all powerful AND in control of the universe, does that mean that when your Jesus is alleged to have been crucified, that he crucified himself? wouldn't that be suicide? and forbidden?
Do christians worship God (not Jesus)?
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so let me ask, IF Jesus is your god AND your god is all powerful AND in control of the universe, does that mean that when your Jesus is alleged to have been crucified, that he crucified himself? wouldn't that be suicide? and forbidden?
good questions. First of all Jesus offered himself as a sacrifice.
John 10:11
I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
John 10:15
just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep.
John 15:13
Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.
John 10:18
No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
John 10:11
I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
John 10:15
just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep.
John 15:13
Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.
John 10:18
No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
it seems like:
No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. again, suicide!
I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.
this is really strange, IF he can "lay down his life" AND "take it up gain"; then he isn't really dead or he couldn't "take it up gain"; which means that he didn't really "lay it down", doesn't it?
This commandment have I received of my Father , which would of course mean that he gave it to himself!???
and this makes sense?
But is not flesh a created substance? Surely it is.
This implies that God, the creator of flesh, transformed into His own creation. This is in violation of the unity and oneness of God. As soon as God turns into flesh His oneness becomes invalidated.
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Quite. It would be blasphemous to the extreme!
Yet Jesus did allow it ... make of that what you will ...
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Show me where Jesus denied that he was good. Show where did He correct Thomas when he said to him My Lord and My God.
You did not answer my question. Would you like for me to answer it for you with a quote from the Bible?
How did Jesus reply when he was addressed as "good teacher"?
Mark 10:18
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Now that I answered your question answer my questions
Is 1 X 1 X 1 = 1?
What did Jesus mean when He said this?
John 10:30 (Young's Literal Translation)
I and the Father are one.'
John 8:58 (Young's Literal Translation)
Jesus said to them, `Verily, verily, I say to you, Before Abraham's coming -- I am;'
And lastly
Is Jesus 'good'?
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Now that I answered your question answer my questions
Is 1 X 1 X 1 = 1?
What did Jesus mean when He said this?
John 10:30 (Young's Literal Translation)
I and the Father are one.'
John 8:58 (Young's Literal Translation)
Jesus said to them, `Verily, verily, I say to you, Before Abraham's coming -- I am;'
And lastly
Is Jesus 'good'?
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Why are we using multiplication here, did the bible say to multiply?
God impregnated a mortal woman, but before he did, he came to her in person tell her, he was going to impregenate her with himself, he then decided to leave the cosmos and the laws that govern our world behind to suckle as a helpless infant some where in a small town Nazareth, hang around as a pauper for a few years curse the world he created for not bearing the fruit he wanted, go on paying to himself in the garden of Gethsemane, declare he is God, get crucified and die... And we are expected to buy this as the same guy/God?
and christians wonder why people leave christianity behind in a hurry? try selling this one to fa irst grader.. Think there is less confusion over santa clause than the tri-God...
astghfor Allah al3li il3atheem-- sheer ignorance!
God impregnated a mortal woman, but before he did, he came to her in person tell her, he was going to impregenate her with himself, he then decided to leave the cosmos and the laws that govern our world behind to suckle as a helpless infant some where in a small town Nazareth, hang around as a pauper for a few years curse the world he created for not bearing the fruit he wanted, go on paying to himself in the garden of Gethsemane, declare he is God, get crucified and die... And we are expected to buy this as the same guy/God?
and christians wonder why people leave christianity behind in a hurry? try selling this one to fa irst grader.. Think there is less confusion over santa clause than the tri-God...
astghfor Allah al3li il3atheem-- sheer ignorance!
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That argument would make some sense if your bible didn't have so many different contradicting versions.
1 cube is just an analogy to make you understand the trinity little better rather than using 1 + 1 + 1 = 1
Matthew 24:11
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Matthew 7:13-14
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
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lol indeed... you should really have a closer look at 'saul/paul' when discerning that declaration and worshipping the man/god
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p.s 1+1+1= 3
last we left it-- perhaps that is why we can't understand you.. you don't know of God any more than you know simple math?
You can't use cubes, squares, circles, narnians, humans or animals when speaking of God... but christianity is much like Greek mythology (perhaps that was its original appeal) except even Zeus' Hercules from a mortal woman wasn't one in the same... an amazing thing it is this veil of ignorance that dulls the senses and leaves them aghast still in the dark ages, God forbid one should question their centuries old folly!
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Indeed they did ("apostle Paul"?)
In the context Jesus was talking about the last days which encomapasses our generation. The days of the Pauline era were not the last days.
Please read your bible. You've got a reading assignment. Matthew 24. Note that down.