Do Muslims visit churches to admire the history and artwork?

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Mazed said:
why would people wanna make a place of worship gothic?
i just dont get it :heated:
wont that just repel people from goin there and repenting :?
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Ehm. Gothic is also simply an architectural style. It doesn't even have to be ugly:

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KAding, that pic is lovely.
I have been inside a few churches, but that was with school. I like the way light comes in through stain glass windows.
 
The word Gothic now brings to mind a bunch of lost teenagers walking around with black hair and fingernails looking sad as they spend mommy and daddy's money at the mall. Sorry...that was uncalled for.
 
Keltoi said:
The word Gothic now brings to mind a bunch of lost teenagers walking around with black hair and fingernails looking sad as they spend mommy and daddy's money at the mall. Sorry...that was uncalled for.
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lol....... hey I went through that phase in my teens....... thank God I grew out of it in a hurry... link removed -content inappropriate liked the clothes.....I still have some friends stuck in that phase though..... at this age it is pretty scary for a whole new set of reasons..... we marvel and say nothing.......
 
north_malaysian said:
Huh!!! so a church building is not 'important'? :uuh:
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Thats's right.

So if a church is destroyed people are sad but ultimately it doesn't really matter.

If a church is old and destroyed then the people lose a lot of history and so people are even more sad. But again, it doesn't really matter.
 
And a very "basic" satisfaction drawn yet again from a simplistic conclusion ....
 
glo said:
What's more important: the mosque or the Ummah?
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well....... God is the ultimate important entity in our lives .... and the mosque is 'His' house.....

....ummah......is also important too.....erm..........

I dont know, maybe someone more knowledgeable about this can give the answer...
 
Joe98 said:
Thats's right.

So if a church is destroyed people are sad but ultimately it doesn't really matter.

If a church is old and destroyed then the people lose a lot of history and so people are even more sad. But again, it doesn't really matter.
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I think Muslims cannot accept any mosques to be destroyed.....
 
glo said:
What's more important: the mosque or the Ummah?
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I dont understand why you would draw this comparision? :?

When the prophet entered the city of madinah the first thing he did was build a mosque! thats because its like the central place, for meeting, worship etc... the mosque is it self a source of strengh for the ummah.
 
Joe98 said:
This is most likely out of respect for Islam and Judesism.

How many mosques have crosses and stars?
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Joe did you know, during the time that the muslims took power in Spain. Cathedrals were build with teh help of Muslim architects. You can today still go and see those churches who have the typical cross-shaped size, but with midlleeastern patterns and gates. So I'm not talking about mosques who were later changed into churches, since you have that there to.
 
Greetings, Joe98

Yes, I have visited churches. Actually just two. :hiding:
I'd like to some day visit very famous ones... :)

glo and KAding, those churches look very cool!
Especially that black cathedral, glo! Spooky and mysterious.
I don't find the gothic style horrible at all... Actually, beautiful in some ways. But scary for sure. :giggling:

Peace
 
Alaikumassalam

The most spectacular building I ever have seen is Saint Basil's Cathedral in Red Square Moscow: but the story of its construction can not bear with repeating.

I wonder about the full array of stories of the construction of large Cathedrals and the genuine history of Masonry. What vestiges are there these days left among actual Masonic Temples of the real tradition? There are certainly an array of historic novels about masons which can establish nasty repeating patterns in any person's psychology. I know cause my Dad had been trapped into a couple of such patterns, by having had novels recommended to him in connection with his line of work. You'd think that there are still enough Masons around who realise that they can only thwart themselves be preventing true self knowledge in a man like my father, whom is an excellent scientist. Well, actually he never lost his self knowledge, and is permanently so enabled, but he got fairly forgetful in a very set pattern that thwarts his own cause.

Now, I expect that all actual Cathedrals have a connected history which can be accessed to present self decent psychological patterns to the visitors who can get there.

?

Wasalam
 
cheese said:
I dont understand why you would draw this comparision? :?
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If you read the whole thread, you will find that north_malaysian was surprised that our congregation meets in a school hall, rather than a 'proper' church ... and understood that to mean that the church (building) is not important (which, on the whole, I would agree with)

I drew the comparison because the term 'church' can mean two things:
  1. a building where Christians meet to worship God (the Christian equivalent to a mosque)
  2. the people who belong to the family of Christ, and who believe that Jesus Christ is the resurrected Son of God (the Christian equivalent to the Ummah)

From a Christian perspective the church building - though important - is by far less important than the family of Christ. After all, if we didn't have churches to meet in, we could meet in school halls, each other's homes, or even garden sheds and open fields ...
Jesus preached in the open air much more often than in the temple ... :)

Peace.
 

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