Do you feel sorry for non muslims?

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yea man i d0 ezply da kidz c0z der juz d0in v0t der prntz ave t0rt dem 2 d0 v r s0oo0o0o0 lcky v v0z brn muzlmz alhumdullilah :D
 
j4763 said:
But what about non-Muslims who have never herd of Islam who are living in the deep dark jungles of the world, and worship no god. Is it fair for them to go to hell?
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Good point. There will be a place called al-A'raaf between the Jannah and Jahannam.
1) Over here it is said that people who had never heard of Islam or a Prophet never came to them, but they still believed in the Onness of Allah will be placed here. 2) People whose scale of good deeds and bad deeds will be same.
I think there were a few more categories, i dont remember them.
Finally with the Mercy of Allah all of these WILL be going to Jannah.
 
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brother, i've heard of this place as well. but i've never come across a hadith concerning it, not that i've read every hadith. do you know of any hadith that states this?
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Nawal89 said:
what ARE you trying to say?
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LOL

yea man i d0 ezply da kidz c0z der juz d0in v0t der prntz ave t0rt dem 2 d0 v r s0oo0o0o0 lcky v v0z brn muzlmz alhumdullilah -

yea man i do especially the kids coz there jus doin what there parents have taught them to do, we are sooo lucky we was born muslims ALHAMDULLILAH!

lol i tihnk i got it right ;D
 
salaam,

i have some great friends that are unfortunately not muslim, and therefore i do feel upset knowing that they do not believe in Allah and that they can go to Hell due to this. :(

but i guess once you give dawah and explain things to them, it is their responsibility as to what they are going to do next. inshAllah they will make the choice of being muslims, but until then.......:'(

wassalam
 
once i went up to this really religious brother i know and i asked him...

bro dont you feel sorry for all those good hearter disbelievers out there?

he turned to me and said good hearted.... *i could see his look changin to more serious and angry*... HOW CAN YOU CALL THEM GOOD HEARTED WEN THEY DARE TO DISBELIEVE IN ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER WEN ALL THE PROOF HAS BEEN SHOWN TO THEM, WE TRY OUR BEST TO REVERT THEM BUT THEY ARE ARROGANT AND ARE THEREFORE DOOMED! SUCH IGNORANT PEOPLE NEED NO PITY!! but this brother is jus like that for real he ALWAYS gives dawa alhamdullilah and inshaAllah with his help many will be reverted, but wat he says is kinda true... if there good... why dont they accept Allah!!
 
A person can be good and still not beleive in Allah brother

Greatest example, look at Abu Taalib the Prophets Uncle. He was good in all ways towards his nephew, but still he was not muslim.
Also, there is a hadeeth if I'm not mistaken, saying that a Disbeleiver gets rewards for his good deeds here in this world, but on the Hereafter only Eternal hell Awaits him.
Wallahu a'lam
 
AsilahRana said:
A person can be good and still not beleive in Allah brother

Greatest example, look at Abu Taalib the Prophets Uncle. He was good in all ways towards his nephew, but still he was not muslim.
Also, there is a hadeeth if I'm not mistaken, saying that a Disbeleiver gets rewards for his good deeds here in this world, but on the Hereafter only Eternal hell Awaits him.
Wallahu a'lam
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really? sister please can you show me the hadith, it would be a great help and an eye opener
 
oh i jus read wat u said, theres no point of havin reward in this dunya, no1 wants to go to hell :offended:
 
If someone feels sorry for nonmuslims because they are going to hell, I would suggest that they go out and attempt to convert as many people as they can to Islam. Not doing so seems incredibly selfish, lazy, and would be very offensive to Allah/God.
 
A non muslim could feel sorry for a muslim for wasting there life worshipping a non existing god, or someone from a different religion could feel equally sorry for a Muslim for praying to the wrong god and making what they believe the “real” god angrier and angrier for praying to the other god.
 
once i went up to this really religious brother i know and i asked him...

bro dont you feel sorry for all those good hearter disbelievers out there?

he turned to me and said good hearted.... *i could see his look changin to more serious and angry*... HOW CAN YOU CALL THEM GOOD HEARTED WEN THEY DARE TO DISBELIEVE IN ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER WEN ALL THE PROOF HAS BEEN SHOWN TO THEM, WE TRY OUR BEST TO REVERT THEM BUT THEY ARE ARROGANT AND ARE THEREFORE DOOMED! SUCH IGNORANT PEOPLE NEED NO PITY!! but this brother is jus like that for real he ALWAYS gives dawa alhamdullilah and inshaAllah with his help many will be reverted, but wat he says is kinda true... if there good... why dont they accept Allah!!
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Thats true bro...
 
"HOW CAN YOU CALL THEM GOOD HEARTED WEN THEY DARE TO DISBELIEVE IN ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER WEN ALL THE PROOF HAS BEEN SHOWN TO THEM"

Who showed all nonbelievers in Islam the proof? I've known hundreds of muslims and never been showed the proof, not even a invitation to learn more about Islam. hmmm....
 
renak said:
If someone feels sorry for nonmuslims because they are going to hell, I would suggest that they go out and attempt to convert as many people as they can to Islam. Not doing so seems incredibly selfish, lazy, and would be very offensive to Allah/God.
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Salam.
"First, it is impossible to “convince” another person of the truth of Islam, such that through a certain line of reasoning and debate, one is able to convert a non-Muslim to Islam. Nowhere in the Qur’an or Sunnah are Muslims instructed to “convince” non-Muslims. In fact, Allah says in the Qur’an what means:
*{Among them are some who listen to thee: but canst thou make the deaf to hear even though they are without understanding? Among them are some who look at thee: but canst thou guide the blind even though they will not see?}* (Yunus 10:42-43)

In other words, Allah is the One Who guides and Who leads astray. While this does not remove the responsibility from the Muslim to invite non-Muslims to Islam, it does show us that we are in reality powerless to open another’s heart to Islam. Nevertheless, we do da`wah (inviting to Islam) because it is the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) and it is the means by which Allah often (but not always) spreads His guidance.

God has ordered Muslims to invite others to His way through da`wah. So this is what Muslims will be asked about. As for the "convincing", it is a matter in the hands of Allah. There is a big difference between inviting someone to something and between convincing him with it.

This argument may seem like a trivial point, but it is important to remember that the Prophet Muhammad’s uncle Abu Talib, one of the most beloved people in the world to him, was not guided to Islam before his death. The Prophet had spoken to his uncle about Islam and prayed for him countless times, yet nevertheless, the Messenger of Allah himself was powerless to convince him.

In reality, Allah’s existence is so obvious that many people cannot perceive Him. An analogy can be made with light: We are able to perceive the existence of light because of its contrast with darkness and shadow. Were there to be no darkness, we would only see light, which would be so obvious and all encompassing that we might not be able to identify it as a separate entity. In the same way, Allah’s light never diminishes or fades, and there is nothing to oppose or counter it. Just like the hypothetical light that knows no shadow, Allah is so obvious that many people fail to notice Him.

Returning to our initial argument, many Muslims believe that they can convince others of the truth of Islam though cold logic. The “scientific miracles in the Qur’an” da`wah has become popular during the past decade, while in fact, in my personal opinion, it echoes the inferiority complex of the Muslim world vis-à-vis the West. As one contemporary Muslim thinker explains:

“Many modernized Muslims, like so many other Orientals, equate science with civilization and judge the value of any human society and its culture by whether or not it has produced science, disregarding completely the lessons of the history of science itself.” (Islam and the Plight of Modern Man, Seyyed Hossein Nasr, p. 186)

I see that a person whose iman (faith) is based upon the Qur’an’s miraculous mention of the expansion of the universe, for instance, has little iman at all, in fact. Rather, his heart is saying, “Scientific knowledge is absolute truth; thus if the Qur’an confirms it, then it must be a part of truth also.” If such an “iman” is not supplemented and reinforced by something more experiential, it will quickly fade. Therefore, I strongly recommend not pursuing the “scientific miracles in the Qur’an” line of da`wah with your friend.

Since the Enlightenment period, a significant portion of Europe (and America to some extent) has preferred nihilism over religion. While nihilism itself deserves no philosophical respect, it is hard to blame Europeans for their animosity toward religion in general. Whether it is in the form of some exploitative popes, sappy missionaries, sanctimonious fire-and-brimstone preachers, or violent Islamist extremists, men of religion have not conveyed the positive meaning to religion that it deserves. You must keep in mind that your Dutch audience is most likely very skeptical of any religion, let alone the religion of “the dark man from the East.” This should not discourage you; rather it should channel your da`wah away from certain sensitive issues that are specific to the European culture.

Returning to your question, the most important ingredients to make your da`wah effective both for you and your friend are sincerity, certainty, compassion, and virtue.

Speaking with your friend about Islam must be solely for the sake of Allah. At no point should you try and “beat him” in a specific debate, make him look foolish, or lose sight of your objective, namely calling him sincerely to Allah. You must correct your intention repeatedly throughout your da`wah, and you should try and stay in the remembrance of Allah as much as possible.

You must speak as if you see the metaphysical reality of this world before your very eyes. If I had knowledge that somebody was about to kill my friend, how would I speak to him? Even if he did not initially believe me, my earnestness and seriousness would eventually convince him. Similarly, your level of certainty will have a direct bearing on the effectiveness of your speech. Incidentally, a person’s level of certainty in something increases the more he sacrifices for it; thus, the more you invite to Allah, the more you will believe in Him yourself.

Throughout your da`wah, you must have true compassion for your friend and want the best for him in this world and the next. The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) had compassion even for his enemies, and you must reflect the same type of concern for all of humanity. In this vein, your du`aa’ (supplicating) at night for your friend is on equal footing with your da`wah during the day. Without one, the other will surely remain deficient.

Your conduct, selflessness, generosity, truthfulness, and general uprightness are a thousand times more convincing than words alone. These character traits show beyond all doubt that Islam is not simply another religion, but rather a complete system that encompasses the believer’s entire being. Without such virtues, the religion of Islam will seem no different from the empty, self-righteous religiosity that has swept the Western world.

Finally, you should plan a sensible “argument” for the excellence of Islam, but the minute you see either stubborn ignorance or bull-headedness on the part of your friend, you must back down. Do not let your da`wah deteriorate into a debate or quarrel. A Muslim is above quarreling, for it is the quickest way to lose your sincerity and make all of your efforts go to waste, both in this world and the next."

Source:
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...kAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE&cid=1123996016676
 
Read through them (well most of it) and just seems like there's no real proof to me, but thats a diffferent thread!
 
Cheb, I agree with your post. However, if a muslim feels that islam is the only religion, shouldn't they share their beliefs with nonbelievers (respectfully, without force)? The same could be said for christians who believe that christianity is the only religion.

I'm not suggesting evangelizing to nonbelievers, just friendly discussion.
 
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