Do you hate Americans?

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I hope you don't mind me jumping in on this discussion since i'm not a Muslim and i'm an American.
But one of the things that has been a bit of an issue with me as i have considered becoming a Muslim has been the anti-American sentiment and outright hatred i find sometimes from those in the Muslim community. I know that the US is not by any means perfect, but it is my home where i was born and raised (like it or not sometimes).
I do love the Muslim way of life and i can see myself becoming a Muslim, but like i said...the anti-Americanism is troubling to me.

Thanks for letting me just sound off a bit.
 
Your welcome. I think people tend to vent their anger in different way's.
However I do not see how hating the americans people per se achieve anything. It is the goverment e.t.c and their policies over many years where the problem lies.
 
^^Islam is better than what some Muslims show it to be. So understand Islam, not Muslims in general, cuz u wont always find perfect ones. I dont hate Americans personally because i've met many good ones. I havent ever had a problem with anyone at all. Its my first time actually having an argument with someone who is not Muslim, on world affairs. We can never deny that there are losers everywhere. I don't like the way America goes about on such things, most of the public is the opposite of the government. Maybe someone doesnt like me as a Muslim through the ones ive met, but no ones ever messed with me. Except for my professor LOL.

So yea thats it :D
 
sojourner said:
I hope you don't mind me jumping in on this discussion since i'm not a Muslim and i'm an American.
But one of the things that has been a bit of an issue with me as i have considered becoming a Muslim has been the anti-American sentiment and outright hatred i find sometimes from those in the Muslim community. I know that the US is not by any means perfect, but it is my home where i was born and raised (like it or not sometimes).
I do love the Muslim way of life and i can see myself becoming a Muslim, but like i said...the anti-Americanism is troubling to me.

Thanks for letting me just sound off a bit.
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I don't mind at all. This is what I wanted the thread to be. Honest opinions from both sides. I am an american non-muslim as well so I understand where you are coming from. My advice to you is simple......pay no attention to those who show you hatred. From what I have been able to learn that is not the islamic way (please correct me if I am wrong). If you do want to convert then do so with a full heart and realize that though you may face people who won't agree and will be down right mean to you, that you are doing what you think is best. No one holds the definition of who you are but you!!!!
 
I must admit I hate America, this feeling was non existent before 9/11. After 9/11 America illegally invaded 2 muslims countries which fueled my anger further.
Also the blinding support of Israeli terrorism towards Palestine, has further added to this anger. Everytime I hear the word America, or see Bush or any American official on TV, I find myself cursing under my breath. It angers me that the lies I can see so clearly a lot of Americans are ignorant to. The worst blow was that Americans voted for Bush again. Americans have to realise the actions of their elected government they are directly responsible for, if the majority view isnt reflected by a democratically elected government, then it is clear Americans themselves live under a dictatorship.
Until there is a revolution in America and the evil regime in place is overthrown, I stand by my anti American views. Dont get me wrong I dont hate Americans in general, I have given reasons for my hate.
 
salamualikum
NO i don't hate Americans well i hate those who kill innocent people like W.Bush am an american me self so depends who they are init
Ma'assalama
 
NobleMuslimUK said:
The worst blow was that Americans voted for Bush again. Americans have to realise the actions of their elected government they are directly responsible for, if the majority view isnt reflected by a democratically elected government, then it is clear Americans themselves live under a dictatorship.
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i think you don't understand something. the u.s. is not a democracy. it has elections where you get to choose between 2 candidates who are both funded by the same corporations and neither represent anybody i know. (i don't know any millionaires).
elections are not the same thing as democracy - they are just elections.
last election i voted for the first time (and probably the last) in my life (and i'm not young) just so i could vote against bush - but not because i thought his opponent was a real alternative.
you are right that many americans are ignorant and believe what fox news tells them about the world. any many don't care.
but there are also many americans who cry at what has become of their country and are deeply ashamed of what is being done in our name.
please remember us once in awhile.
 
Can I change my vote? I have decided I hate Americans too. Perhaps, with this gesture, I will not cause an entire page of discussion to disappear into the ether again.
 
i don't hate americans in general. but i do very much dislike president bush and republikkkans. of at least their political beliefs.
 
thirdwatch512 said:
i don't hate americans in general. but i do very much dislike president bush and republikkkans. of at least their political beliefs.
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Join the club. Even the republicans hate him and that is saying something. I can't wait till '08!!!
 
tomtomsmom said:
Join the club. Even the republicans hate him and that is saying something. I can't wait till '08!!!
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I'm a Republican and I don't hate George Bush. I agree with most of his foreign policy decisions, Iraq being the exception. My problem with Bush has nothing to do with foreign policy however, it is more his domestic agenda, mainly the immigration issue.
 
MTAFFI said:
So you wouldnt mind then if I say I hate all Muslims until I meet them? Or that you may not be directly responsible for certain Muslim terrorist attacks but you are a part of it. Seems a little sick to me
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Salaam,

You cna say that but of course you need to show proof.

Right now let see how the US stands.

Attack Iraq Afghan,,wihout proof and lie about the reasons...then when those reason are cast aside as LIES,the US still say that it is truth.

Lies backed by action,and when those lies unfold,the lies are still reinforced even today by certain memeber of the US goverment.

Why?

And what have american done for the Iraqis? or the Afghans?
In my mind nothing.

Even when you hear of the words by US politician it is laways about SUPPORTING THE TROOPS<did it speak about the torment that the Iraqis/Afghan have to endure?

No it is about US citizens supporting their onw people first.

Is it wrong?
I would say no,it is right for a parentto protect the children,but it is likewise right for the parent to teach the children to apologise for any wrong deeds casued.

That is not happening now,no apologies,no restitution,just bravado and I MA RIGHT,no matter how many Iraqis are dead,I MUST BE SAFE.
 
Zulkiflim said:
Salaam,

You cna say that but of course you need to show proof.

Right now let see how the US stands.

Attack Iraq Afghan,,wihout proof and lie about the reasons...then when those reason are cast aside as LIES,the US still say that it is truth.

Lies backed by action,and when those lies unfold,the lies are still reinforced even today by certain memeber of the US goverment.

Why?

And what have american done for the Iraqis? or the Afghans?
In my mind nothing.

Even when you hear of the words by US politician it is laways about SUPPORTING THE TROOPS<did it speak about the torment that the Iraqis/Afghan have to endure?

No it is about US citizens supporting their onw people first.

Is it wrong?
I would say no,it is right for a parentto protect the children,but it is likewise right for the parent to teach the children to apologise for any wrong deeds casued.

That is not happening now,no apologies,no restitution,just bravado and I MA RIGHT,no matter how many Iraqis are dead,I MUST BE SAFE.
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I understand what you are saying. The politicians in this country are corrupt. They have no idea what they are doing. They no longer speak for the american public. They only speak for themselves. Please do keep in mind that not all americans feel that way. I can not change where I come from. But I can say to any one that will listen that what is going on is wrong. And there needs to be some major changes.
 
Salaam,

But in all my tirade,i spoke as a human being.

As a msulim,i will always remeber the Quran,the sins of the fahter is the sin of the fahter.
Sin are not passed thru the chidlren.

Inshallah,by Allah i will remember and see each person as their own individuals.

BUT,as a human,when i find out a person is an american no matter of what religion,even a muslim,i would walk away.

As the Prophet say,it is better to walk away then be in anger in one self or to an innocent other.

Inshallah.
 
Zulkiflim said:
Here in Singapore,the whites or Americans are fearful to be seen outside and where ever they go they go in groups for protection.
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Eik... in Malaysia, the Americans are happy working, eating etc... they dont have any kind of protection... and Malaysia is a Muslim majority country, unlike Singapore...:confused:

Lots of white backpackers are in Penang right now to see Hindu festival of Thaipussam... some even participate in the parade..
 
I don't hate Americans just because they are Americans.I actually like the country more than any other European country.I just hate the foreign policy.
still the US has been quite nice with Bangladesh compared to its relations with other Muslim countries.
Though I do hate ultra-liberal hippi-like Islam-hating Americans who meddle in Muslim affairs.Its not just Americans.I hate all types of Islamophobes.
 
north_malaysian said:
Eik... in Malaysia, the Americans are happy working, eating etc... they dont have any kind of protection... and Malaysia is a Muslim majority country, unlike Singapore...:confused:

Lots of white backpackers are in Penang right now to see Hindu festival of Thaipussam... some even participate in the parade..
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Why do you think this is?
 
tomtomsmom

are you some form of ultra liberal? I keep reading your posts and it is like you have no pride in your country. Have you forgotten the attacks on NYC? The thousands that died in those towers because of a radical group that was angry because we helped a country he didnt want us to, who belongs to one of the same groups that are the root of the violence in Iraq today. I do not always agree with what Bush does but I will say this, I would rather live with him as a leader than some Islamic ruler who wants to run the country or world rather under Islamic Law. Many of these people are absolute barbarians, they have lived in tents, caves, mudhouses or whatever much of their lives and then come out firing rockets and setting off bombs after training in a desert camp for a year. Do you not think that there is a war out there to fight? Do you not think if we left all these countries that our embassies and country wouldnt be attacked again? Look at the last 20 years and you will see this isnt the case. You may want to consider who you align yourself with, take a look at Zukliflim he sees an American and goes the other way, I see a Muslim and treat him as I would anyone else no matter what some of his people may have done to mine.

Also I notice you hate Republicans, so are you a democrat, let look at the two:

Republic
Pro Life (no abortion)
No Gay Marriage
Believe all should be equal
Stop illegal immigration
Less mudslinging
Good for the Rich
Strong leadership (in most cases)

Democrat
Pro Choice (for abortion)
Support Gay Marriage
Believe in breaks for minorities
Want to make the illegals legal
Mudsling like crazy (will do or say anything to get in office)
Good for the poor
Weak leadership (mostly cowards and idiots)
 
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