do you watch movies and listen to music?

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

hehe much more than just swear, they are deep in sin

 

[makaveli]

Are you really that ignorant Makaveli. All these rappers swear and do all this other crap.

and they make good songs too but you probably didn't hear them, examples:

2pac - Changes
Eminem - Lose Yourself
Nas - Just a moment

 

[Ibn Syed]

I have no intention of listening to them. I'd rather listen to halal comedy(Azhar Usman, heard of him?).

 

[Lateralus63]

how did their music put you down? many people are inspiried by the music they listen to ..... for you if might have been different.

its psychological bullying, forcing people by repitition of psychological messages not to think for themselves.

Thats why rappers have the same dress code, the same colloquial structure.

 

[Lateralus63]

and they make good songs too but you probably didn't hear them, examples:

2pac - Changes
Eminem - Lose Yourself
Nas - Just a moment

yeah

2pac - Hit em up

eminem - without me (uncensored)

Whatever.

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

true true, lose yourself is garbage, i heard it before, its is complete garbage.

 

[Ibn Syed]

Like I said before, never heard em; never will. Alhamdulillah Allah didn't fill my ears with this garbage.

 

[makaveli]

there is good rap songs and bad songs but most of here just want to focus on the bad songs.

 

[Ibn Syed]

Are there really any good songs? Maybe in your head but not mine.

 

[Lateralus63]

because the majority is bad !!! its so blatant.

 

[Ibn Syed]

True

 

[Sahabiyaat]

no rathar their music in reality is garbage. it inspires ones soul to do haram, puts them lower than the lowest when they listen to their garbage and do what the lyrics say :

026.221 Shall I inform you, (O people!), on whom it is that the evil ones descend?

026.222 They descend on every lying, wicked person,

026.223 (Into whose ears) they pour hearsay vanities, and most of them are liars.

026.224 And the Poets,- It is those straying in Evil, who follow them:

026.225 Seest thou not that they wander distracted in every valley?-

026.226 And that they say what they practise not?-

026.227 Except those who believe, work righteousness, engage much in the remembrance of Allah, and defend themselves only after they are unjustly attacked. And soon will the unjust assailants know what vicissitudes their affairs will take!

wasalam

:applaud:

like i said its quite useless to try and help those who cannot help themselves..no matter how hard u try Allah (swt) guides whom he wishes.

 

[*Somali-chick*]

no alhamdulillah, i used 2 listen 2 music n watch mostly indian moviez since parents didn't like us watchin anythin else while bck but alhamdulillah i've stopped.

i guess as u grow older listenin 2 those sort of things just doesn't satisfy ur soul anymore. Those rap/RnB singerz r more like teasin girlz rather than singin 4 them. i mean, look @ 50c as an example thru out his whole song which is meant 2 b a "love song" is just full of "B" this, "B" that. mg: subhanAllah, i neva knew swearin @ girlz was a good way 2 show ur affection 2wards her

anyho

 

[MetSudaisTwice]

yes sings i agree with you listening and watching these thing, these kuffars things, are no good for your imaan. i personally don't like these things i prefer to listen to shuraim, sudais and salih leading taraweeh on my dvd and recitations by them three on the hi-fi as well

 

[Usayd]

sorry peeps but you seem to be forgetting something. How on earth would you express what your saying now to disbelievers? Instead of shouting abuse at the Muslims here you could actually be trying to understand that non-muslims are suffering to!

Okay, i'll tell you what it is about Rap.
1) There are Muslim rappers
2) There is meaning behind many songs
3) There are rappers who are very supportive of Islam

If you neglect this because you feel you're so above everybody, then in my opinion you are the one in the wrong.
Of course I don't encourage 'haram' music and stuff, but saying that you will become a bad person etc if you listen to it is quite a prejudice judgement.
What am i trying to say here? Basically you've gotta see both sides of the story. Because someone swears it doesn't mean he's condemned to Hell, remember that Allah is the most forgiving, most merciful.
There is a really good song that condemns the US rule of the world, the way they kill innocent people - but is that haram because it was made by a non muslim? Of course you shouldn't put these things over your religion, and you shlould stay within the boundaries of Islam, but you must remember that by openly critisizing them you are infact just as bad as them in some ways.
Ishallah we will all be guided correctly. My opinion on music is not definate but I must express that there is more then just the one sided opinions we see nowadays.
Jazakallah
Usayd

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Instead of shouting abuse at the Muslims here you could actually be trying to understand that non-muslims are suffering to!

they might be, but our Aim is Muslims, first we correct our Ummah and then move on to the rest Inshallah.

1) There are Muslim rappers

true, there are, Mpac and others, but do they curse? if they are using instuments in the background then it is forbidden, but if they are doing it without Music in the background then it is allowed.

2) There is meaning behind many songs

that meaning can also be expressed with out all those haram acts and themes that the songs have. They can be said in a decent manner that isnt involved with swearing, women (prostitutes, cuz that is a main focus of these rappers), and music.

3) There are rappers who are very supportive of Islam

Good for them, they cant get anywhere by just supporting Islam, they need to show it, and by that i mean, learn Islam, and convert Inshallah, if they dont convert then atleast, talk about your support for OUR religion, through ways that it is permissible in our religion. and the Quran goes so far in saying:

23. O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong.

we shoudnt take their protection OUR FATHERS OUR BROTHERS, if they prefer something else than Islam.

So where are these rappars???

Basically you've gotta see both sides of the story. Because someone swears it doesn't mean he's condemned to Hell, remember that Allah is the most forgiving, most merciful

true, but isnt the truth Islam, available for them? isnt it their fault that they turn a blind eye to Islam?

but is that haram because it was made by a non muslim?

not cuz a non-muslim made it, but because he used MUSIC, in the background which is haram

by openly critisizing them you are infact just as bad as them in some ways.

What are those ways??? is it now haram and bad to say that what they are doing is Haram?
thnx for telling me , i didnt know.

Ishallah we will all be guided correctly.

Inshallah

My opinion on music is not definate but I must express that there is more then just the one sided opinions we see nowadays.

the prophet said, i forbid two sounds, the sound of women wailing when a calamity falls on you, and the sound of Music in times of peace.

 

[snipeaac]

sorry peeps but you seem to be forgetting something. How on earth would you express what your saying now to disbelievers? Instead of shouting abuse at the Muslims here you could actually be trying to understand that non-muslims are suffering to!

Okay, i'll tell you what it is about Rap.
1) There are Muslim rappers
2) There is meaning behind many songs
3) There are rappers who are very supportive of Islam

If you neglect this because you feel you're so above everybody, then in my opinion you are the one in the wrong.
Of course I don't encourage 'haram' music and stuff, but saying that you will become a bad person etc if you listen to it is quite a prejudice judgement.
What am i trying to say here? Basically you've gotta see both sides of the story. Because someone swears it doesn't mean he's condemned to Hell, remember that Allah is the most forgiving, most merciful.
There is a really good song that condemns the US rule of the world, the way they kill innocent people - but is that haram because it was made by a non muslim? Of course you shouldn't put these things over your religion, and you shlould stay within the boundaries of Islam, but you must remember that by openly critisizing them you are infact just as bad as them in some ways.
Ishallah we will all be guided correctly. My opinion on music is not definate but I must express that there is more then just the one sided opinions we see nowadays.
Jazakallah
Usayd

I repeat:

Abd Allah ibn Mas’ud (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Song makes hypocrisy grow in the heart as water does herbage”(Sunan al-Bayhaqi).

 

[Usayd]

I repeat:

Abd Allah ibn Mas’ud (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Song makes hypocrisy grow in the heart as water does herbage”(Sunan al-Bayhaqi).

If you are, it is a major accusation to call someone a hypocrite. Ripping my post apart and not taking the meaning of it is quite insulting to me, but sure most of what you have said is true.
May Allah (SWT) guide us all to the straight path. May i re-instate that I do not think that Music as it can be is Islamic, or in many ways 'halal', but things must be put into perspective.
Jazakallah

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

If you are, it is a major accusation to call someone a hypocrite. Ripping my post apart and not taking the meaning of it is quite insulting to me, but sure most of what you have said is true.
May Allah (SWT) guide us all to the straight path. May i re-instate that I do not think that Music as it can be is Islamic, or in many ways 'halal', but things must be put into perspective.
Jazakallah

are you able to reply to my argument???? i dont think so, go and read it and lets see ur argument

 

[Usayd]

need i reply? Allah knows best, that is it!