~ Do you work?! ~

[Considering]

I work in information technology, which is both a blessing and a curse.

On the one hand, it is very nearly a meritocracy, it pays well, and it is very accepting.

On the other hand, it is a meritocracy, it pays well, and it is very accepting

I mean these are good and bad.

As a meritocracy, it requires constant reinvestment in one's education to stay current and competitive.

Since it pays well, everyone is attracted to it, which means there's a lot of people who are underqualified vs. what they claim they can do.

The IT world (at least in the US) is very accepting and diverse. I work with people from many different parts of the world. I fact, the only Muslims I have met in the U.S. have been in IT (and generally Indo-Pak). While I like this, the flip side is that there are many freaks, weirdos, and moral degenerates.

 

[Ğħαrєєвαħ]

^yes i agree there are many freaks out there ,unfortunately..

Thank you for sharing and it seems 'Meritocrocay' is something to do with reinvestment in ones education to remain current and competitive..

.. peace ..

 

[ardianto]

Madame, it means that whoever is in full time paid work they should wire me the monies directly, it must be paid work i don't want anything to do with voluntary 'slave' workers

Slave ?. Is voluntary worker slave ?.

Don't you know bro ?, voluntary work can increase your "CV value"

I tell you a reality. If in a job interview, the interviewer asks you
"When was you graduated ?"
"2009" you answer.
"And what was your activity in this last two years ?"
"Stayed at home, sir"
Your application will be ended in the garbage bin.

But if you tell the interviewer you worked as voluntary worker, he can gives you that job because he knows you have motivation to work, and you have working experience.

 

[Riana17]

Aslaamu`Alaaykum . . . .

Okay this Q may be personal, but you dont have to say, i was just wondering

Is working Depressing? Do you encounter any haraam situations whilst on your geeky work placement? What type of Environment do you work in? for example,a happy,sad,boring,depressing etc (sorry for the Geeky Q)

Does anyone enjoy working? Is it something you look forward to every day? lol
Do you work in a non-muslim environment? And do you give Dawah? Do you pray at work? Is your boss nice enough to let you pray? InshaAllaah just curious if it has offended anyone i apologise and you may just ignore this thread.

Anyway the purpous is to know whether we live our lives doing nothing beneficial or we do something to please Allaah. Being nice to people, giving salaam to your sisters/brothers on the street , i mean sister to sister and brother to brother.

What i mean to say is that we can go to work everyday and remain there for ages and consuming time up, but are we doing anything to benefit ourselves for the Dunya and the hereafter?

I want to know what you think we should do while were out, ways of giving dawah etc, and it doesnt have to be related to only work, it could be anywhere like go shopping, for a walk err going to school, Uni etc etc.

if you think this thread is a waste of time feel free to ignore

Jazakallahu khaayr

I hope i made sense too InshaAllaah

Wa`Alaaykum Salaam

salam to you
YES YOUR QUESTION MAKES ALOT OF SENSE BCOZ PEOPLE WORKING like me spends most of their time at work 8/day
since i came back on vacation i appreciate my company more than before, as in other countries they have to travel 4hrs to work and work for another 10hrs, feel sad for them

1st 99% of people around are nice, I mean there is no jealousy or politics and everyone minds their own business
my boss recently decided to give a prayer room for women at our floor- May Allah be pleased with him
there are many Christians around us & seems very peaceful , i use to greet them with salam after seeing in Islam channel that I will be blessed when i greet people with salam,
I am running 8yrs here (i started at age of 17) and I cant imagine myself to be in other company - May Allah bless me with this job for many more years
yes so im pretty happy & stable with my job - alhamdollelah rabil alamin

On top of that, my husband & I are having a litte business which keeps us busy - bcoz of this business I could send my brother to open heart surgery - Allah is very generous to us

thanks for the post, bcoz of your question i could recall the blessings, alhamdollelah rabil alameen, Allah never leave us hangry

 

[Riana17]

basically madame whatever monies you earn weekly you send a small amount to me , it is as simple as that

if you are serious, i want to look for dignity:exhausted

 

[Who Am I?]

Actually, this is relative to one of the questions I have about Islam. Is it necessary to pray while at work? As a Christian, I don't normally pray at work because I can't always just put the phone down (if I am on a call) and start praying.

Also, what if you have a full-time job and can't always attend juma salaat (I think that is how you say it)? I would not be able to attend most of the time due to my job and the fact that I don't have a lot of time off. Are the Friday prayers mandatory, or is it like attending a church where you go whenever you can/feel like it?

 

[Re.TiReD]

]Aslaamu`Alaaykum . . . .

Wa'alaykum as-salam

Is working Depressing? Do you encounter any haraam situations whilst on your geeky work placement? What type of Environment do you work in? for example,a happy,sad,boring,depressing etc (sorry for the Geeky Q)

No No happpyyyy alhamdulillah

Does anyone enjoy working? Is it something you look forward to every day? lol

I loooveeee itttttt alhamdulillah I just didnt love it today coz I'm sick and when you're sick everything irritates you that bit extra :skeleton: :embarrass

Do you work in a non-muslim environment? And do you give Dawah? Do you pray at work? Is your boss nice enough to let you pray? InshaAllaah just curious if it has offended anyone i apologise and you may just ignore this thread.

Muslim environment alhamdulillah, yes yes and yes

What i mean to say is that we can go to work everyday and remain there for ages and consuming time up, but are we doing anything to benefit ourselves for the Dunya and the hereafter?

Yes we are if we're doing something beneficial and if we're working to provide for our families and loved ones then there's benefit and blessing in that too insha'Allah

I want to know what you think we should do while were out, ways of giving dawah etc, and it doesnt have to be related to only work, it could be anywhere like go shopping, for a walk err going to school, Uni etc etc.

Wear Hijab when you go out, greet everybody with a mahoosive grin and offer assistance to people, especially older people.

if you think this thread is a waste of time feel free to ignore

A thread isnt a success if it isnt a waste of time

Jazakallahu khaayr

BarakAlalh feeki

I hope i made sense too InshaAllaah

Yeah you did

 

[Riana17]

Actually, this is relative to one of the questions I have about Islam. Is it necessary to pray while at work? As a Christian, I don't normally pray at work because I can't always just put the phone down (if I am on a call) and start praying.

Also, what if you have a full-time job and can't always attend juma salaat (I think that is how you say it)? I would not be able to attend most of the time due to my job and the fact that I don't have a lot of time off. Are the Friday prayers mandatory, or is it like attending a church where you go whenever you can/feel like it?

well it is obligatory to pray 5times/day, it is one of the pillars of Islam

1st u have to see the benefits of praying
everytime we pray, inshallah the previous sins will be forgiven by Allah

2nd thing
we are reminded 5times daily to avoid committing sins

3rd thing
praying is not taking time as you think bro
if you will do the obligation it takes 2-3mins each prayer

Salatul Jumma is obligatory for men, and its not the exact word but Allah commanded to stop whatever you are doing and even close your business for few hours to attend this congretional (spell right?)
if you are unable (well justified) its okay u can pray at work/home
my husband missed his salatul jumaa once in his lifetime only when we visited manila, there is no mosque at all
so all muslims regardless of work, must pray 5times daily.. this is rule to live by, if we create ours then this religion will be broken soon enough

 

[Ğħαrєєвαħ]

Assalaamu Alaaykum

salam to you
YES YOUR QUESTION MAKES ALOT OF SENSE BCOZ PEOPLE WORKING like me spends most of their time at work 8/day
since i came back on vacation i appreciate my company more than before, as in other countries they have to travel 4hrs to work and work for another 10hrs, feel sad for them

1st 99% of people around are nice, I mean there is no jealousy or politics and everyone minds their own business
my boss recently decided to give a prayer room for women at our floor- May Allah be pleased with him
there are many Christians around us & seems very peaceful , i use to greet them with salam after seeing in Islam channel that I will be blessed when i greet people with salam,
I am running 8yrs here (i started at age of 17) and I cant imagine myself to be in other company - May Allah bless me with this job for many more years
yes so im pretty happy & stable with my job - alhamdollelah rabil alamin

On top of that, my husband & I are having a litte business which keeps us busy - bcoz of this business I could send my brother to open heart surgery - Allah is very generous to us

thanks for the post, bcoz of your question i could recall the blessings, alhamdollelah rabil alameen, Allah never leave us hangry

Alhamdulilaah uktee, jazakallaahu Khaayr for contributing ,i appreciate it a lot.

Actually, this is relative to one of the questions I have about Islam. Is it necessary to pray while at work? As a Christian, I don't normally pray at work because I can't always just put the phone down (if I am on a call) and start praying.

Also, what if you have a full-time job and can't always attend juma salaat (I think that is how you say it)? I would not be able to attend most of the time due to my job and the fact that I don't have a lot of time off. Are the Friday prayers mandatory, or is it like attending a church where you go whenever you can/feel like it?

Yes it is necessary to pray whilst work, you would be suprised how important salaah is for a muslim who practices his faith, and it only requires like 5 minutes or more.. and how easy it is..now im getting the impression that maybe your thinking if someone is in danger we should just go pray, this is not how it works, one would help, in other words if out necessity one could not pray then he must pray that prayer later in the day..there is a hadeeth regarding this,i just cant remember the references to it, where the prophet pbuh began to pray and he had to stop the salaah because a baby was crying, he couldnt bare it so attended to it. I hope someone can post up the hadeeth..

Islaam is a complete way of life, everything we do is for the pleasure of the allmighty Allaah. And all he wants of us a few minutes of worship, can we not do that, sacrifice that? In comparison to what he has given us? You would be amazed of the blessings that he has bestowed upon us, and another thing Allaah will not benefit from our prayer but it is for our own best.

You see when one prays it teaches him many things, how to lower ones gaze, how to remain away from sins and much more..and also of that which we do not know or cannot see, this however, may be difficult to understand in the beginning but surely time will catch on..

If you have a full time job, then it would be required of you to ask the boss/manager for permission to let you go pray on the friday.. I remember the boys in my school days would be granted permission to take a day off on friday, though not all went to pray :\

Wa'alaykum as-salam




No No happpyyyy alhamdulillah



I loooveeee itttttt alhamdulillah I just didnt love it today coz I'm sick and when you're sick everything irritates you that bit extra :skeleton: :embarrass



Muslim environment alhamdulillah, yes yes and yes




Yes we are if we're doing something beneficial and if we're working to provide for our families and loved ones then there's benefit and blessing in that too insha'Allah



Wear Hijab when you go out, greet everybody with a mahoosive grin and offer assistance to people, especially older people.



A thread isnt a success if it isnt a waste of time



BarakAlalh feeki



Yeah you did

Wa feeki uktee..your post was awesome!

Jazakallaahu khaayr for sharing..

 

[YusufNoor]

Actually, this is relative to one of the questions I have about Islam. Is it necessary to pray while at work? As a Christian, I don't normally pray at work because I can't always just put the phone down (if I am on a call) and start praying.

you plan ahead, kind of like a lunch break. you INTENTIONALLY plan for it. just think, in order to get to Jannah, the rent is 5 prayers a day. would you pass on Jannah, ETERNAL happiness, because you didn't want to devote an hour a day to God? seems kind of silly, eh?

Also, what if you have a full-time job and can't always attend juma salaat (I think that is how you say it)? I would not be able to attend most of the time due to my job and the fact that I don't have a lot of time off. Are the Friday prayers mandatory, or is it like attending a church where you go whenever you can/feel like it?

when you become a Muslim, you DECLARE your Shahada, La Ilaha Illallah Muhammadur Rasulullah. for your job, you DECLARE, i MUST attend Jumu'aaah Salaat! i did it and it was really odd cuz i went to see the owner of the company AFTER his brother told me not to. the brother said he would cover for. oddly before i told him WHY i needed the extra time off of Fridays, he assumed it was for an illicit love affair! hew

the owners first words when i walked in the door...."you're Jewish, right?" [i get this question so much that it isn't funny. well, actually it IS a little funny ;D] i was like, actually, that's what i'm here to talk about!

and no, for a Muslim, prayer NEVER just when you feel like. it is OBLIGATORY! personally, i think it helps!

consider:

are you gonna now be a crappy employee? NO, you are Allah's representative at the job!

are you gonna be dishonest? NO, you are Allah's representative at the job!

are you gonna steal? NO, you are Allah's representative at the job!

are you gonna have an affair with someone at the office? NO, you are Allah's representative at the job!

eventually, In Sha'a Allah, your boss will wondering how he can get some MORE Muslims working for him!

does this make sense?

wa Salaam

 

[Who Am I?]

OK, that answers that question clearly. Thanks to all who replied. Like you said, you devote a few minutes a day to pray and the rest is your time. If more Christians prayed like Muslims do, this world might be a better place. I know I don't pray nearly as often as I should.

It seems like Islam is full of ritual and discipline, and I kind of like that. Discipline is one thing I have been lacking in my life. I struggle with a lot of things because I am lazy and just don't care anymore. I need to get away from that. Inshallah, I can do it...

 

[MustafaMc]

Is it necessary to pray while at work?

I will speak from my perspective and I do not intend to mislead you or to contradict anyone who has already written. As a Muslim I am required to pray 5 times a day. The times for prayer are 1) fajr from about 1.5 hours before sunrise until immediately before sunrise, 2) zuhr - from immediately after zenith of sun at mid day until about half the time until sunset, 3) asr from about half the time between noon and sunset until sunset, 4) maghrib from immediately after sunset until about 1.5 hours after sunset, 5) isha from about 1.5 hours after sunset until midnight. My understanding is that we have a window open for us to make each salah although it is much better to pray all prayers at their earliest time. It takes perhaps 5 min to make wudu and then another 5 for salah.

Also, what if you have a full-time job and can't always attend juma salaat (I think that is how you say it)? I would not be able to attend most of the time due to my job and the fact that I don't have a lot of time off. Are the Friday prayers mandatory, or is it like attending a church where you go whenever you can/feel like it?

According to the Shafi'i madhab it is obligatory to attend 2-rakat Jumu'ah salah on Friday noon if there are 40 Muslim men in the city to make Jumu'ah, else one would pray the standard 4-rakat zuhr salah. I too am very busy with my work in USA and have difficulty getting away for 2 hours (45 mile one-way drive) on Friday. I make Jumu'ah as much as I can, but am embarassed to say how often I miss it. It is better to be a Muslim who is imperfect in his salah than to be a kafir who never reads salah.

 

[Who Am I?]

I will speak from my perspective and I do not intend to mislead you or to contradict anyone who has already written. As a Muslim I am required to pray 5 times a day. The times for prayer are 1) fajr from about 1.5 hours before sunrise until immediately before sunrise, 2) zuhr - from immediately after zenith of sun at mid day until about half the time until sunset, 3) asr from about half the time between noon and sunset until sunset, 4) maghrib from immediately after sunset until about 1.5 hours after sunset, 5) isha from about 1.5 hours after sunset until midnight. My understanding is that we have a window open for us to make each salah although it is much better to pray all prayers at their earliest time. It takes perhaps 5 min to make wudu and then another 5 for salah.According to the Shafi'i madhab it is obligatory to attend 2-rakat Jumu'ah salah on Friday noon if there are 40 Muslim men in the city to make Jumu'ah, else one would pray the standard 4-rakat zuhr salah. I too am very busy with my work in USA and have difficulty getting away for 2 hours (45 mile one-way drive) on Friday. I make Jumu'ah as much as I can, but am embarassed to say how often I miss it. It is better to be a Muslim who is imperfect in his salah than to be a kafir who never reads salah.

Thanks for the reply. I have been going over in my mind how I would be able to fulfill my obligations and still perform at my job adequately. I'll come up with something if I have to.

 

[Riana17]

OK, that answers that question clearly. Thanks to all who replied. Like you said, you devote a few minutes a day to pray and the rest is your time. If more Christians prayed like Muslims do, this world might be a better place. I know I don't pray nearly as often as I should.

It seems like Islam is full of ritual and discipline, and I kind of like that. Discipline is one thing I have been lacking in my life. I struggle with a lot of things because I am lazy and just don't care anymore. I need to get away from that. Inshallah, I can do it...

i like that
lazy lazy lazy
I am like u before and noww (a bit)
u see brother, there is nothing called gradual change in discipline
i am muslim for almost a year now but the gradual change is not there
we all need to experience the process

bet u were better than me coz i prayed or visit the church once in 3years,, i guess
but now alhamdollelah i am performing my daily prayers altho i feel it is being delayed

the morning prayer normally is from 5am to 1130 (here)
i know i must wake up early to pray but since i am waking up at 6 to go to work, i end up praying 630am
i know thats not harram (forbidden or bad) but i feel i should pray earlier as it will increase my faith

i hope u understand my point regardless of my writing
salam

 

[MustafaMc]

Thanks for the reply. I have been going over in my mind how I would be able to fulfill my obligations and still perform at my job adequately. I'll come up with something if I have to.

It seems that you already see the Truth of Islam and that the practice of the Islamic faith is holding you up. I encourage you to declare your faith and to practice it gradually to the extent that you can. As your faith grows, so also will be your desire to apply it more. I look forward to the day I can welcome you into the Islamic faith.

 

[Who Am I?]

i like that
lazy lazy lazy
I am like u before and noww (a bit)
u see brother, there is nothing called gradual change in discipline
i am muslim for almost a year now but the gradual change is not there
we all need to experience the process

bet u were better than me coz i prayed or visit the church once in 3years,, i guess
but now alhamdollelah i am performing my daily prayers altho i feel it is being delayed

the morning prayer normally is from 5am to 1130 (here)
i know i must wake up early to pray but since i am waking up at 6 to go to work, i end up praying 630am
i know thats not harram (forbidden or bad) but i feel i should pray earlier as it will increase my faith

i hope u understand my point regardless of my writing
salam

Until a couple of weeks ago, I had not set foot in a church in 10 years at least. As far as prayer, I would only pray when things were bad and I needed something (like a lot of other Christians I know). That is something I am trying to work on, but it's not easy for me.

It seems that you already see the Truth of Islam and that the practice of the Islamic faith is holding you up. I encourage you to declare your faith and to practice it gradually to the extent that you can. As your faith grows, so also will be your desire to apply it more. I look forward to the day I can welcome you into the Islamic faith.

Well I am going to a local masjid next week to speak to the brothers there and see how comfortable I feel (and how comfortable they are with me). That will have a big impact on what I decide to do...

 

[Riana17]

You are in for a wildride. Br thequietone jokes a lot and his humour is very dry and often makes people squirm for those not used to that kind of joke and can be seen as tasteless.

with all due respect sir, i cant call any of his statement a "joke" when it isnt funny

 

[~ Sabr ~]

Working is better than staying at home. ANYDAY.