Dodi Al-Fayed - Curious question

[Fishman]

According to some (conspiracy) theories, Diana wanted to convert to Islam, which the royals didn't want to happen...

 

[Snowflake]

I should have made myself more clearer. I should have added: you will be hard pushed to find a Christian woman who doesn't associate partners with Allah in this day and age. There are still Christians who reject the concept of the Trinity, i think.

No problem sis.

Yes, there maybe christians at present who don't accept Trinity but that still doesn't qualify them as believers.

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah (God) never will It be accepted of Him" (Soorah Aal'imraan 3:85)​

hence believers are only those who accept Islam as their religion and Muhammed (PBUH) as the Messenger of Allah.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Well if u think about it, those who reject the concept of trinity or any form of shirk, it would make them a kind of Muslim, but they still have yet to declare the other half. Usually people like that become Muslim

 

[strider]

I understand where you are coming from sisters, but Christians and Jews are not just non-Muslims. They are People of the Book. It has become inadviseable to marry such women though partially because times have changed and with that so have beliefs. When Prophet Muhammed(peace be upon him) was born, there were people who held to the belief of Prophet Eesa and that was correct for them.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Thats why we say it wouldnt make sense to marry a mushrik....its totally deviated now.

 

[Snowflake]

I understand where you are coming from sisters, but Christians and Jews are not just non-Muslims. They are People of the Book. It has become inadviseable to marry such women though partially because times have changed and with that so have beliefs. When Prophet Muhammed(peace be upon him) was born, there were people who held to the belief of Prophet Eesa and that was correct for them.

Firstly, Just for the sake of arguement, let's say I agree that muslims can marry People of The Book. Even in that case then, I would say that scholars are wrong to advise what Allah has permitted in the Quran. Are they saying the laws of Allah are not suited to this day annd age and are harming the Ummah? Na udhu billah!



Give me one verse where Allah states that if marriage to people of the Book were to become a cause for concern then it would be inadvisable? Any ONE?





In fact, Allah swt says:
"When it was Allah’s will to conclude His messages to mankind, he sent the last Prophet with a message to man, not to a particular community or a particular period. This message addresses the very nature of man which remains the same in all periods and communities. “ (This is) the natural disposition which Allah has instilled into man, no change shall be made in Allah’s creation. This is the ever true faith.” (30:30).



A Law that was revealed in the Quran at a particular time, applies to all time. Because in Allah's own statement it is the Law of Religion. And Islam is the religion for ALL time.




Quran (5:3):
(Today I have perfected for you your Religion and completed My Favour upon you, and I am pleased with Islâm as your Religion)




The Quran deals with all aspects of human life. It has already laid down guide lines for time and environment. It contains detailed regulations which remain constant regardless of changing times. So the Quran is perfect as it is. Until someone brings forth proof that scholars can advise against Allah's law, I will continue to insist they are wrong.



Doesn't it make you wonder where scholars are coming from when they say it's permissable yet inadvisable to marry C's & J's? It's making such a serious matter look like a case of long nails are permissable yet inadvisable. >:


To be continued......

But before I leave this debate I want to give a verse, from the Quran which makes a clear distinction between believers and disbelievers.

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YUSUFALI:The Believers, men and women, are protectors one of another:they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil: they observe regular prayers, practise regular charity, and obey Allah and His Messenger. On them will Allah pour His mercy: for Allah is Exalted in power, Wise.

Note that the Quran has distinguished believers as those who observe regular prayers, give zakkah and obey Allah and His Messenger. That'll be muslims then. Therefore to say that People of The Book are believers because they believe in the Oneness of Allah is incorrect.


Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Theres a difference in believing it and practicing it...
Many other religions believe in that concept of one God, but their practice is nothing of the sort. So to say their People of the book, means they can get away. Im not saying anything so people believe, but it is important. The most we can do is discuss and come to a conclusion, then i guess talk about it with a scholar, InshAllah. Not that it will work prolly lol.

 

[north_malaysian]

I have found out that Dodi, a fiance of Princess Diana, was a muslim. With Diana being non-muslim I thought this was prohibited in Islam? Muslim-non muslim marriages?

In Malaysia, the rule of marrying the people of the book is stricter.


Only Jewish woman, and Christians who belong to churches that existed before the death of Prophet Muhammad are allowed to be married by Muslim man.