Does 7 Earth Like planets discovery validates Quran ?

[Zishan Baig]

Assalamualaikum. Yesterday NASA Officially Announced of 7 Earth like planets discovery, so i searched on google and i found this verse -

Verse (65:12)

(Muhammad Sarwar Translation): It is God who has created the seven heavens and a like number of earths. His commandments are sent between them, so that you would know that God has power over all things and that His knowledge encompasses all.

So This verse talks about 7 earths and does the new discovery validate each other Or this verse means something else?
Glad if someone can help me with this. Jazakallah.

 

[noraina]

Wa alaykum assalam,

It is such a fascinating discovery, isn't it? I'm following the story closely.

I once heard in a lecture that it doesn't mean Allah swt created 'seven earths', rather that He has created a number of earths, the number of which hasn't been disclosed to us. So while the Qur'an isn't exactly referring to these seven planets, this discovery is one of countless scientific discoveries validating the inherent truth of the Word of Allah swt.

I'm not too sure of this tho, so someone with more knowledge can answer.

We are not told if there is life on another planet, because neither would it really have any direct impact on our faith but also because the Qur'an is a book of guidance and truth, not of science (altho it does use scientific fact as evidence of the signs of Allah swt). So extra terrestrial life is always a possibility - and for me it is quite refreshing that Islam acknowledges that.

And Allah swt knows best.

 

[Supernova]

Asalaamualaykum
For now its only a theology, if you read it carefully its all speculation.

Be very aware of NASA. These are the same guys that told us they went to the moon in 69 !!!! Take a look at the picture of the moon landing & related evidences.
Total joke - they really expect us to believe that that piece of tinfoil garbage rubbish Poundland toy made it from earth, passing the Stratosphere, passing the entire Van Allen Radiation belt - landed on the moon & came all the way back in one piece.

That toy doesn't even look like it can make it from London to Leicester !!!

I still believe that NASA is Kaafir planted machine that is designed to subliminally introduce another angle of supporting Evolution with the intent to lead people to Atheistic beliefs.

Very interesting topic. I know Noraina is gonna jump on this one.

 

[Zishan Baig]

Asalaamualaykum
For now its only a theology, if you read it carefully its all speculation.

Be very aware of NASA. These are the same guys that told us they went to the moon in 69 !!!! Take a look at the picture of the moon landing & related evidences.
Total joke - they really expect us to believe that that piece of tinfoil garbage rubbish Poundland toy made it from earth, passing the Stratosphere, passing the entire Van Allen Radiation belt - landed on the moon & came all the way back in one piece.

That toy doesn't even look like it can make it from London to Leicester !!!

I still believe that NASA is Kaafir planted machine that is designed to subliminally introduce another angle of supporting Evolution with the intent to lead people to Atheistic beliefs.

Very interesting topic. I know Noraina is gonna jump on this one.

So basically NASA's information about 7 earths isnt correct right ? And If it was does it validates Quran or no because i dont understand the context of the verse about "7 Earths" and that If NASA Was correct then would it make a total of 8 earths including the earth we live in ???

 

[Zeal]

I find it very exciting but they always get people excited with this kinda hay only for it lead to nothing great

 

[ardianto]

Wa'alaikumsalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

If NASA has found seven earth like planets, it doesn't mean there are only seven like planets in the universe. It's because NASA observation ranges is still very limited. There are many other earth like planets in the universe that still haven't found.

About seven heavens in Qur'an. If you read story of Isra Mi'raj, then you will realize that the second heaven and up are not in the universe where we are living now, but other universes.

 

[CosmicPathos]

No, the discovery of 7 "earths" does not validate Quran. Puhleez.

First of all, those 7 planets are not "Earths." There is nothing special about those planets except that they are in habitable zone where life might be possible. There are thousands of other planets discovered which are also in habitable zone.

The Quranic verse has nothing to do with the astronomical discoveries. Only Allah swt knows the meaning of seven heavens and seven earths.

 

[CosmicPathos]

Asalaamualaykum
For now its only a theology, if you read it carefully its all speculation.

Be very aware of NASA. These are the same guys that told us they went to the moon in 69 !!!! Take a look at the picture of the moon landing & related evidences.
Total joke - they really expect us to believe that that piece of tinfoil garbage rubbish Poundland toy made it from earth, passing the Stratosphere, passing the entire Van Allen Radiation belt - landed on the moon & came all the way back in one piece.

That toy doesn't even look like it can make it from London to Leicester !!!

I still believe that NASA is Kaafir planted machine that is designed to subliminally introduce another angle of supporting Evolution with the intent to lead people to Atheistic beliefs.

Very interesting topic. I know Noraina is gonna jump on this one.

Another conspiracy theory.

Yes, NASA went to the moon. There is NO DOUBT about it.

So your only argument is that the toy doesnt even look like it can make it from London to Leicester. That's all? I mean I can look at you and say it doesnt even look like that you can type. But here you are, typing away on your computer right. In the same way, the toy did go to the moon. Buzz Aldrin walked the moon.

 

[Bobbyflay23]

Assalamualaikum. Yesterday NASA Officially Announced of 7 Earth like planets discovery, so i searched on google and i found this verse -

Verse (65:12)

(Muhammad Sarwar Translation): It is God who has created the seven heavens and a like number of earths. His commandments are sent between them, so that you would know that God has power over all things and that His knowledge encompasses all.

So This verse talks about 7 earths and does the new discovery validate each other Or this verse means something else?
Glad if someone can help me with this. Jazakallah.

The heavens are discribed as much bigger then a planet light years long and inbettween scientest would not be able to find it simply with a telescope although there's a reference to aliens in the Quran so it's possible these planets are inhabited

 

[azc]

Only Allah swt knows what the meaning of seven earth is

 

[OmAbdullah]

Assalamualaikum. Yesterday NASA Officially Announced of 7 Earth like planets discovery, so i searched on google and i found this verse -

Verse (65:12)

(Muhammad Sarwar Translation): It is God who has created the seven heavens and a like number of earths. His commandments are sent between them, so that you would know that God has power over all things and that His knowledge encompasses all.

So This verse talks about 7 earths and does the new discovery validate each other Or this verse means something else?
Glad if someone can help me with this. Jazakallah.

Assalaam alaikum


See the translation of verse 12 of the surah At-Talaq (Al-Talaaq) along with its exp. note:


(65:12) Allah it is He Who created seven heavens, and, like them, the earth.[SUP]23[/SUP] His commandment descends among them. (All this is being stated so that you know) that Allah has power over everything, and that Allah encompasses all things in His knowledge.



23. “The like of them” does not mean that He created as many earths as the heavens, but it means that He has also created several earths as He has created several heavens. “Of the earth” means that just as this earth which is inhabited by man is serving as bed and cradle for the creatures living on it, so has Allah made and set other earths also in the universe. which serve as beds and cradles for the creatures living on them. Moreover, there are clear pointers in the Qur'an to the effect that living creatures are not found only on the earth but also in the heavens. (For instance, see (Surah Ash-Shura: 29 and E.N. 50) on it. In other words! the countless stars and planets seen in the sky are not all lying desolate, but like the earth there are many among them which are inhabited.


From among the earliest commentators Ibn Abbas is the one, who had expressed this truth in the period when man was not even prepared to imagine that in the universe there are other habitats also, apart from the earth, where rational creatures live. Even the scientists of today are yet in doubt about this being a reality, nothing to say of the people living 1500 years ago, That is why Ibn Abbas felt hesitant about whether he should say such a thing before the common people or not, because he feared it might affect their faith. Mujahid says that when he was asked the meaning of this verse, he said: "If I give you the commentary of this verse, you will turn disbelievers, and your disbelief will be that you will deny it." Almost the same thing has been related from Sa'id bin Jubair, saying; Ibn Abbas said: what can be the guarantee that if I tell you its meaning, you would not turn disbelievers?" (lbn Jarir, 'Abd bin Humaid). However, Ibn Jarir, Ibn Abi Hatim, Hakim and Baihaqi in Shu'ab al-Iman and Kitab al-Asma' was Sifat have cited, on the authority of Abud-Doha, this commentary from Ibn Abbas in different words: "In each of those earths there is a Prophet like your Prophet, an Adam like your Adam, a Noah like your Noah, an Abraham like your Abraham, and a Jesus like your Jesus." This tradition has been related by Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Bat and by Ibn Kathir in his Commentary, and Imam Dhahbi says: "It has been reported authentically, but in my knowledge none apart from Abud-Doha has related it; therefore, it is an uncommon and rare tradition." Some other scholars regard it as a falsehood and Mulla 'AIi; Qari, in his Maudu at Kabir (p. 19), has described it as a fabrication, and written: `Even if it is a tradition from Ibn 'Abbas, it is based on Israelite traditions." But the truth is that the actual reason why the people have rejected it is their regarding it as remote from reason and beyond understanding; otherwise there is nothing in it which may by itself be opposed to reason. Thus, Allama Alusi in his discussion of it in his commentary writes: "There is neither any intellectual barrier to taking it as correct nor religious. It only means that in every earth there is a creation which turns to its origin just as mankind in our earth turns to Adam (peace be upon him). and in every earth there are individuals, who are distinguished among others just as the Prophets Noah and Abraham (peace be upon them) are distinguished among us. " A little below the Allama writes: "The earths may be more than seven, and likewise the heavens also may not be only seven. To rest content with the number seven, which is an indivisible integer, does not necessarily negate the higher numbers." Then, about the distances between one heaven and another, which have been stated as five hundred years or so in some Ahadith. the 'Allama says: "This is not meant to give the exact measurement of the distances, but to express the truth in a manner easily comprehensible to the people."



It is would be intresting to note that lately the Rand Corporation of America has estimated on the basis of their astronomical observations that only in the Galaxy to which our earth belongs there are about 600,000,000 (600 million) planets physical conditions on which closely resembles those on earth, and there is a possibility that they may be inhabited just as in the earth by living creatures. (Economist, London, 26 July, 1969)
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So from the Holy Quraan it is proved that there may be many earths like that of our's and the Hadeeth of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam informed Ibn Abbaas rAa that the earths have inhabitants like us with prophets to them for guidance like the Prophets alaihim salaam to people in our earth.

 

[Zishan Baig]

Assalaam alaikum


See the translation of verse 12 of the surah At-Talaq (Al-Talaaq) along with its exp. note:


(65:12) Allah it is He Who created seven heavens, and, like them, the earth.[SUP]23[/SUP] His commandment descends among them. (All this is being stated so that you know) that Allah has power over everything, and that Allah encompasses all things in His knowledge.



23. “The like of them” does not mean that He created as many earths as the heavens, but it means that He has also created several earths as He has created several heavens. “Of the earth” means that just as this earth which is inhabited by man is serving as bed and cradle for the creatures living on it, so has Allah made and set other earths also in the universe. which serve as beds and cradles for the creatures living on them. Moreover, there are clear pointers in the Qur'an to the effect that living creatures are not found only on the earth but also in the heavens. (For instance, see (Surah Ash-Shura: 29 and E.N. 50) on it. In other words! the countless stars and planets seen in the sky are not all lying desolate, but like the earth there are many among them which are inhabited.


From among the earliest commentators Ibn Abbas is the one, who had expressed this truth in the period when man was not even prepared to imagine that in the universe there are other habitats also, apart from the earth, where rational creatures live. Even the scientists of today are yet in doubt about this being a reality, nothing to say of the people living 1500 years ago, That is why Ibn Abbas felt hesitant about whether he should say such a thing before the common people are not, because he feared it might affect their faith. Mujahid says that when he was asked the meaning of this verse, he said: "If I give you the commentary of this verse, you will turn disbelievers, and your disbelief will be that you will deny it." Almost the same thing has been related from Sa'id bin Jubair, saying; Ibn Abbas said: what can be the guarantee that if I tell you its meaning, you would not turn disbelievers?" (lbn Jarir, 'Abd bin Humaid). However, Ibn Jarir, Ibn Abi Hatim, Hakim and Baihaqi in Shu'ab al-Iman and Kitab al-Asma' was Sifat have cited, on the authority of Abud-Doha, this commentary from Ibn Abbas in different words: "In each of those earths there is a Prophet like your Prophet, an Adam like your Adam, a Noah like your Noah, an Abraham like your Abraham, and a Jesus like your Jesus." This tradition has been related by Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Bat and by Ibn Kathir in his Commentary, and Imam Dhahbi says: "It has been reported authentically, but in my knowledge none apart from Abud-Doha has related it; therefore, it is an uncommon and rare tradition." Some other scholars regard it as a falsehood and Mulla 'AIi; Qari, in his Maudu at Kabir (p. 19), has described it as a fabrication, and written: `Even if it is a tradition from Ibn 'Abbas, it is based on Israelite traditions." But the truth is that the actual reason why the people have rejected it is their regarding it as remote from reason and beyond understanding; otherwise there is nothing in it which may by itself be opposed to reason. Thus, Allama Alusi in his discussion of it in his commentary writes: "There is neither any intellectual barrier to taking it as correct nor religious. It only means that in every earth there is a creation which turns to its origin just as mankind in our earth turns to Adam (peace be upon him). and in every earth there are individuals, who are distinguished among others just as the Prophets Noah and Abraham (peace be upon them) are distinguished among us. " A little below the Allama writes: "The earths may be more than seven, and likewise the heavens also may not be only seven. To rest content with the number seven, which is an indivisible integer, does not necessarily negate the higher numbers." Then, about the distances between one heaven and another, which have been stated as five hundred years or so in some Ahadith. the 'Allama says: "This is not meant to give the exact measurement of the distances, but to express the truth in a manner easily comprehensible to the people."



It is would be intresting to note that lately the Rand Corporation of America has estimated on the basis of their astronomical observations that only in the Galaxy to which our earth belongs there are about 600,000,000 (600 million) planets physical conditions on which closely resembles those on earth, and there is a possibility that they may be inhabited just as in the earth by living creatures. (Economist, London, 26 July, 1969)
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So from the Holy Quraan it is proved that there may be many earths like that of our's and the Hadeeth of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam informed Ibn Abbaas rAa that the earths have inhabitants like us with prophet to them for guidance like the Prophets alaihim salaam to people in our earth.

Thanks sir, this makes sense.