Does a woman have to defend herself from rape?

[Zafran]

people usually ask questions because they don't know. whats the point of your comments?

so people dont know if a women has to defend herself from rape in Islam??? - do you need a fatwa for that or an entire thread about it?? Is it realy that unclear - is it realy that complicated?

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

^ there's always the option of getting out of this thread if you dont like it.

its not about the self defensive per se, but some people may feel hesitant about the killing part. self defense if different from killing someone.

or maybe its because it is coming from a "salafi" source that you're getting all vexed about it.

 

[Zafran]

^ there's always the option of getting out of this thread if you dont like it.

I am aware of that option

its not about the self defensive per se, but some people may feel hesitant about the killing part. self defense if different from killing someone.

Yes I know there is a difference between killing someone and self defence - so making the question even more clearer and straightforward - your pointing out the obvious - theres nothing compliacted about it.

or maybe its because it is coming from a "salafi" source that you're getting all vexed about it.

???

whats with the comment about sects - I thought this thread was open to all the muslims - havent you read the rules of this forum. Your clearly getting "vexed" about me being in this thread - your sectarian loyalties are clouding your Judgement. Very off topic indeed.

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

I am aware of that option

i thought you would have

Yes I know there is a difference between killing someone and self defence - so making the question even more clearer and straightforward - your pointing out the obvious - theres nothing compliacted about it.

you're not quite following the point are you. i was simply trying to give an explanation as to why people ask these seemingly dumb questions. killing someone out of self defense is different from self defense in general and a clarification for this may have been necessary for some...i certainly didn't know (wow wee what a dumba$$ i am) that it was permissible in this case to kill someone out of self defense and the reason why i bumped this thread was to clear doubts for other people as well.

its not correct to mock and belittle people who ask concerning their deen. the jokes on those who mock imo. people should be encouraged to ask, and if you find something funny/off, then its best to keep it to yourself. not everyone is on the same level of knowledge and there could be certain things and factors that prevent people from having what seems be obvious knowledge.

and another thing is that this deen is not based on peoples emotions it is based on ayaat and ahadeeth. so people saying things like "duh what else is the answer going to be" is not exactly helping.

someone asks concerning the Islamic opinion on something, should be given an answer based on the Islamic opinion- nothing else.

whats with the comment about sects - I thought this thread was open to all the muslims - havent you read the rules of this forum.

i take my comment back then.

Your clearly getting "vexed" about me being in this thread -

err what?

your sectarian loyalties are clouding your Judgement. Very off topic indeed.

err what again.

 

[Muslimeen]

I am a bit confused with this, if you have the means to kill yourself eg. A weapon of some sort, knife or gun, then would'nt it be better to use it on your attacker?? unless you have to jump off a ten story building or take some poison and die a slow death, by which time you would already have been raped. My philosophy is, atleast take one with you. If you have to jump from a 10 storey building, then grab his hand and jump. I know this is not always easy for women and they don't often think about or take self defense seriously, but I suppose it's just the way they are. However I have noticed that many women when they are in a corner, they can be quite a handful. I guess it all depends on the individual and mindset of each person. I for one, hate being a helpless victim, but men are different I suppose.

 

[Masuma]

I am a bit confused with this, if you have the means to kill yourself eg. A weapon of some sort, knife or gun, then would'nt it be better to use it on your attacker??

I shouldn't but LOL! LOL! yeah so true! if a woman has the gun or some weapon she should attack the attacker! I'm feeling weird so would reply later!

 

[Zafran]

i thought you would have


you're not quite following the point are you. i was simply trying to give an explanation as to why people ask these seemingly dumb questions. killing someone out of self defense is different from self defense in general and a clarification for this may have been necessary for some...i certainly didn't know (wow wee what a dumba$$ i am) that it was permissible in this case to kill someone out of self defense and the reason why i bumped this thread was to clear doubts for other people as well.

Thats not what the question actually says - it says does a women have to defend herself from rape?
Just read the question literally and you'll see what problem I have with it.
when your being attacked do you even have a choice - its like asking should the palestinain defend themselves if they are being bombed by Isreal?

its not correct to mock and belittle people who ask concerning their deen. the jokes on those who mock imo. people should be encouraged to ask, and if you find something funny/off, then its best to keep it to yourself. not everyone is on the same level of knowledge and there could be certain things and factors that prevent people from having what seems be obvious knowledge.

Theres no mocking or making fun of - its quite serious to actually have to ask the question "does a women have to defend herself from rape"? Its a serious problem.

and another thing is that this deen is not based on peoples emotions it is based on ayaat and ahadeeth. so people saying things like "duh what else is the answer going to be" is not exactly helping.

someone asks concerning the Islamic opinion on something, should be given an answer based on the Islamic opinion- nothing else.

so you realy need to take out the quran and hadith to actaully know if a women has to defend herself from rape.

i take my comment back then.


err what?


err what again.

all those statements were togather - it was a reply to your sectarian comment - Its odd you split the statements when they were written togather in one paragraph - but as you have taken your comment back and it has nothing to do with the thread - theres no need to go further.

 

[Masuma]

Cease Fire! Both of you!

Mods, please do something!

Brother Zafran, you have your opinion about the thread and sis Ummu Sufyan has her own opinion.

So please, end of discussion!

 

[Zafran]

Cease Fire! Both of you!

Mods, please do something!

Brother Zafran, you have your opinion about the thread and sis Ummu Sufyan has her own opinion.

So please, end of discussion!

Salaam

I accept that

peace

 

[Snowflake]

Muslimeen;1341182]I am a bit confused with this, if you have the means to kill yourself eg. A weapon of some sort, knife or gun, then would'nt it be better to use it on your attacker??

Let's say a woman has a weapon and she is cornered by a few men. Who should she kill? Herself or one man - since she won't get a chance to kill them all before being overpowered unless she has a gun which can fire a high volume of bullets. So what does she do?

unless you have to jump off a ten story building...... My philosophy is, atleast take one with you

If a woman had the ability to do that, then there'd be no need for her to kill herself?

or take some poison and die a slow death by which time you would already have been raped

When women kill themselves to prevent rape they do it on impulse in desperation to protect the sanctity of their bodies. I doubt any woman would take poison knowing death wouldn't be instantaneous. :-\

I know this is not always easy for women and they don't often think about or take self defense seriously

You'd be surprised how many women do want to learn self defence. It is difficult to find women's only classes sometimes. Most of us would jump at the chance to be trained by Shaolin monks if it were allowed. But sometimes it is men who make women feel that they don't need to learn self-defence. That somehow it equates to them having masculine characteristics. That it takes away from her femininity. I guess men like that are not confident enough of their own masculinity. But that shouldn't stop women from learning it anyway.

but I suppose it's just the way they are

No we aren't! We'll kill you with our bare hands if our strength matched yours.

However I have noticed that many women when they are in a corner, they can be quite a handful.

Exactly! Take a mother for instance. Look at how the most timid of mothers turn into lionesses when it comes to protecting their child.

I guess it all depends on the individual and mindset of each person. I for one, hate being a helpless victim, but men are different I suppose

It's got nothing to do with being a man. Women don't want to be helpless victims, they are just disadvantage in having less physical strength.

 

[Muslimeen]

Interesting reply, Scents of Jannah. Though slightly off topic, I also feel though men are physically stronger women have a higher threshold for pain. I suppose thats why Allah has chosen them to give birth rather than men. I for one have always felt women should arm themselves or take up some sort of self defense. My personal experience with women has lead me to believe that they are somewhat laxed in arming themselves. I personally don't know any women who either carries a gun or even wants to carry one. Men on the other hand I know quite few.

 

[optimist]

Asalamu 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

Question oes a woman have to defend herself if someone wants to rape her, and is she allowed to use a weapon for that purpose?​

Wassalam,

The right of self defence, whether it is for women, or man, is not something to be received through any fatwa from anyone. No one should be allowed to even ask this type of questions.​

 

[optimist]

To be quite honest i find the title of this thread and the question asked on Islam q&a to be very ridiculous and unbelievable...ofcourse any women whos been raped will defend herself and will defend herself even with weapons...its not rocket science :heated:

You said it. I agree with you.

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

@sis scents of jannah: http://islamqa.com/en/ref/144586 =)

 

[Raziah]

Alsalam alikum,

I think wearing hijab is protecting women from rape somehow,but also women need to behave correctly....