Yes, we have established this fact through our discussion M H Kahn, thank you for restating it again.
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Yes, we have established this fact through our discussion M H Kahn, thank you for restating it again.
i posted this earlier, and assume that it covers the miraj as well!
you can do an hadeeth search here:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html
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^ I have a query regarding that hadith. So does that mean that Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam did NOT see Paradise/Hell? or Allaah? Doesn't that mean 2 sahih hadiths contradict each other? :mmokay:
^ I have a query regarding that hadith. So does that mean that Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam did NOT see Paradise/Hell? or Allaah? Doesn't that mean 2 sahih hadiths contradict each other? :mmokay:
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The companions of Allah's Messenger sal Allah alaihi wasalam had a difference of opinion on whether he saw Allah with his eyes, or with his heart. Therefore - showing that this is not a critical aqeedah matter, since even the companions differed on this.
In regard to seeing Allah, the verse is clear in meaning - that Moses should look at the mountain (i'll post the tafsir of it on the next post):
“And when Moses arrived at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said, ‘My Lord, show me (Yourself) that I may look at You.’ (God) said, ‘You will not see Me, but look at the mountain; if it should remain in place, then you will see Me.’ But when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He rendered it level, and Moses fell unconscious. And when he awoke, he said, ‘Exalted are You! I have repented to You, and I am the first of the believers.’” (Quran 7:143)
Check this link to answer your question;
Can We See God?
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/331/
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Musa asks to see Allah
http://tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=7&tid=18663
Allah said that when Musa came for His appointment and spoke to Him directly, he asked to see Him,
[رَبِّ أَرِنِى أَنظُرْ إِلَيْكَ قَالَ لَن تَرَانِى]
("O my Lord! Show me (Yourself), that I may look upon You.'' Allah said: "You cannot see Me,'') `You cannot' (Lan) by no means indicates that seeing Allah will never occur, as (the misguided sect of) Al-Mu`tazilah claimed. The Hadiths of Mutawatir grade narrated from the Messenger of Allah, affirm that the believers will see Allah in the Hereafter. We will mention these Hadiths under the explanation of Allah's statement,
[وُجُوهٌ يَوْمَئِذٍ نَّاضِرَةٌ - إِلَى رَبِّهَا نَاظِرَةٌ ]
(Some faces that Day shall be radiant. Looking at their Lord.) [75:22-23] In earlier Scriptures, it was reported that Allah said to Musa, "O Musa! No living soul sees Me, but will perish, and no solid but will be demolished.'' Allah said here,
[فَلَمَّا تَجَلَّى رَبُّهُ لِلْجَبَلِ جَعَلَهُ دَكًّا وَخَرَّ موسَى صَعِقًا]
(So when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He made it collapse to dust, and Musa fell down unconscious.) In his Musnad Imam Ahmad recorded from Anas bin Malik that the Prophet said about Allah's saying;
[فَلَمَّا تَجَلَّى رَبُّهُ لِلْجَبَلِ]
(And when his Lord appeared to the mountain, )
«هكذا»
(Like this) then he held out the tip of his little finger. At-Tirmidhi recorded this in the chapter of Tafsir for this Ayah, then he said; "This Hadith is Hasan Sahih Gharib.'' This was also recorded by Al-Hakim in his Mustadrak through the route of Hamad bin Salamah, and he said; "This Hadith is Sahih according to the criteria of Muslim and they did not record it.'' And As-Suddi reported that `Ikrimah reported from Ibn `Abbas about Allah's saying,
[فَلَمَّا تَجَلَّى رَبُّهُ لِلْجَبَلِ]
(And when his Lord appeared to the mountain,) Only the extent of the little finger appeared from Him,
[جَعَلَهُ دَكًّا]
(He made it collapse) as dust;
[وَخَرَّ موسَى صَعِقًا]
(And Musa fell down unconscious) fainting from it. Ibn Jarir recorded these because of the relation to the word Al-Ghashi.
[فَلَمَّآ أَفَاقَ]
(Then when he (Musa) recovered his senses) after he lost consciousness,
[قَالَ سُبْحَـنَكَ]
(he said: "Glory be to You,'') thus, praising, glorifying and honoring Allah since no living soul could see Him in this life and remain alive. Musa' statement,
[تُبْتُ إِلَيْكَ]
("I turn to You in repentance'') means, according to Mujahid, that from asking you to look at you,
[وَأَنَاْ أَوَّلُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ]
("and I am the first of the believers.''), among the Children of Israel, according to Ibn `Abbas, Mujahid, and Ibn Jarir preferred this view. Or, according to another narration from Ibn `Abbas, the meaning of,
[وَأَنَاْ أَوَّلُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ]
("and I am the first of the believers.''), is that `none shall see You (in this life).' Allah said,
[وَخَرَّ موسَى صَعِقًا]
(And Musa fell down unconscious.) Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri and Abu Hurayrah narrated a Hadith from the Prophet that is suitable to mention here. As for the Hadith from Abu Sa`id, Al-Bukhari recorded in his Sahih that he said: A Jew came to the Prophet after his face was smacked, and said, "O Muhammad! One of your companions from Al-Ansar smacked me on the face.'' The Prophet said,
«ادْعُوه»
(Summon him) and he was summoned. The Prophet asked him,
«لِمَ لَطَمْتَ وَجْهَهُ؟»
(Why did you smack his face) He said, "O Allah's Messenger! I passed by that Jew and heard him swearing, `No, by He Who has chosen Musa over mankind!' I said, `Over Muhammad too', and I became angry and struck his face.'' The Prophet said,
«لَا تُخَيِّرُونِي مِنْ بَيْنِ الْأَنْبِيَاءِ فَإِنَّ النَّاسَ يَصْعَقُونَ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ فَأَكُونُ أَوَّلَ مَنْ يُفِيقُ، فَإِذَا أَنَا بِمُوسَى آخِذٌ بِقَائِمَةٍ مِنْ قَوَائِمِ الْعَرْشِ، فَلَا أَدْرِي أَفَاقَ قَبْلِي أَمْ جُوزِيَ بِصَعْقَةِ الطُّور»
(Do not prefer me above the Prophets. Verily, on the Day of Resurrection, people will be struck unconscious, and I (feel that I) am the first to wake up. Thereupon I will find that Musa is holding onto a pillar of the Throne (`Arsh of Allah). I will not know if he woke up before me or he received his due (because of his) unconsciousness on (Mount) At-Tur.) Al-Bukhari recorded this Hadith in many locations of his Sahih, as did Muslim and Abu Dawud. As for the Hadith from Abu Hurayrah, Imam Ahmad and the Two Shaykhs (Al-Bukhari and Muslim) collected his narration.
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There is no contradiction, the only difference is that the companions had a difference of opinion on whether the Messenger of Allah saw Allah directly with his eyes, or with his heart.
Since the companions who were the most learned of the religion had a difference of opinion on this issue, it isn't a matter which will expel the person out of the fold of Islam or make them an innovator if they choose either opinion. And Allah knows best.
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Oh ok, Jazaak Allaah Khayr for the clarification.
What about seeing Paradise/Hell? He (Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) did see them, as explained in other hadiths. but in the hadith bro YusufNoor posted;
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i dont know sorry. i'll ask about it insha Allah and if i get a response i'll post it insha Allah
i dont know sorry. i'll ask about it insha Allah and if i get a response i'll post it insha Allah
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Got a reply;
http://ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=2231
I think this was with the exception of what was revealed to him. And Allah knows best.
Alhamdulillah.
Got a reply;
Haitham Hamdan said:
http://ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=2231
I think this was with the exception of what was revealed to him. And Allah knows best.
Alhamdulillah.
^ it's clear from the Hadith: that
Aisha said, "If anyone tells you that Muhammad has seen his Lord, he is a liar, for Allah says: 'No vision can grasp Him.' (6.103) And if anyone tells you that Muhammad has seen the Unseen, he is a liar, for Allah says: "None has the knowledge of the Unseen but Allah."
Than how can we re-interpret to say say it was just the future that Prophet peace be upon have not seen. Maybe we have missed something in the translation. As brother Al Habeshi mentioned in an earlier post in this thread.
Allah Knows the best.
Aisha said, "If anyone tells you that Muhammad has seen his Lord, he is a liar, for Allah says: 'No vision can grasp Him.' (6.103) And if anyone tells you that Muhammad has seen the Unseen, he is a liar, for Allah says: "None has the knowledge of the Unseen but Allah."
Than how can we re-interpret to say say it was just the future that Prophet peace be upon have not seen. Maybe we have missed something in the translation. As brother Al Habeshi mentioned in an earlier post in this thread.
Allah Knows the best.
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Muslims - please don't impose false interpretation onto the Bible. Neither Christians or Jews believe that God has a body like humans! The biblical phase that God created humans "in his image" means that he has given us a spiritual nature by which we can have a relationship with him if we choose (and we should so choose).
As Jesus said, "God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and truth".
(New Testament of the Bible, John 4:24)
As Jesus said, "God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and truth".
(New Testament of the Bible, John 4:24)
Peace be upon those who follow the guidance,
"Neither Christians or Jews believe that God has a body like humans!"
really, then who's the fellow that Christians portray hanging on across?
or have you now come to the Truth that Jesus/Isa ibn Marriam was just a Prophet and Slave of Allah Subhannahu Wa Ta' Aala?
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