Dog Kills His Owner

quite sad really...biting the hand that feeds you so to speak...but its no different than humans attacking eachother really, doesnt mean all dogs are dangerous.
Quite funny that most people know that if you splash water on a dog it usually seperates them from whatever they are latching on to and not one of the 10-12 cops did that in the first place...hmmmm...
 
Noora said:
Quite funny that most people know that if you splash water on a dog it usually seperates them from whatever they are latching on to and not one of the 10-12 cops did that in the first place...hmmmm...
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I wouldn't recommend that as a way to deal with a Rottweiler. I wouldn't recommend raising your hand to one either. The only thing you can do when they challenge you is submit (kneel down). They won't fight you if you don't fight them.

The Ninth Scribe
 
Ninth_Scribe said:
I wouldn't recommend that as a way to deal with a Rottweiler. I wouldn't recommend raising your hand to one either. The only thing you can do when they challenge you is submit (kneel down). They won't fight you if you don't fight them.

The Ninth Scribe
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any dogs that force their human master to submit, should be a dead dog
 
Nineth scribe. This information was given to me by my previous vet(when i had two dogs)...although i didnt have any rotweilers....

Mtaffi..i think its meant in a way to show the dog you mean them no harm, not actually submitting to them. Dogs wont hurt people intentionally unless they have been taught to attack or they themselves are in fear of you, that you are going to attack them(self defence), but iguess i could be wrong..after all animals like humans are different and dont all behave the same way.
 
MTAFFI said:
any dogs that force their human master to submit, should be a dead dog
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I'll say it again if the dog had proper training and handling this would have never happened. This is purely the fault of the owner who never took the time to properly discipline his dog and probably was abusive to the dog as well. Their are millions of dogs across the world who never act this way, because people took the time to train their dogs and didn't beat them or neglect them.
 
JeffX said:
I'll say it again if the dog had proper training and handling this would have never happened. This is purely the fault of the owner who never took the time to properly discipline his dog and probably was abusive to the dog as well. Their are millions of dogs across the world who never act this way, because people took the time to train their dogs and didn't beat them or neglect them.
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Ah, but no one is required to take a course and get a license. Any idiot with a few hundred bucks can buy one... and quite a number of humans think they can mistreat and abuse them. But if you threaten certain types of dogs, they will defend themselves, and they're every bit as effective as Tatiana (the female tiger). In that state, they operate on pure instinct and cannot be reasoned with. They are not slaves, so they are not "good" pets. On the flip-side though, I've yet to meet an animal like this that attacked for no reason.

The Ninth Scribe
 
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JeffX said:
I'll say it again if the dog had proper training and handling this would have never happened. This is purely the fault of the owner who never took the time to properly discipline his dog and probably was abusive to the dog as well. Their are millions of dogs across the world who never act this way, because people took the time to train their dogs and didn't beat them or neglect them.
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I get what you are saying, dogs develop differently depending on their enviroment. Here is the thing though, for example, my wife has a tendancy to bring stray animals home, since we have a very large piece of property I dont care because they can just run and half the time I dont see them anyways, except my house dog, but this one time my wife brought a black lab mix home with her, it seemed like a very nice dog, it liked to lick and play and it actually hung around the house rather than go run around on the land. One afternoon I went walking and for no reason at all the dog followed me for a minute and then bit me on the arm. I had to hit the dog with the butt of my gun to get him off and he seemed as though he wanted to attack again but fortunately I always carry a pistol and was able to shoot him. What did I do to that dog? My whole point is not all dogs are good, and the second you see that you have an agressive animal you will be better off killing it. In this case, I cant see a man in his 70's beating on a rottwieler and provoking it to attack, although I guess we will never know
 
I like dogs. I have two labs. But let's not pretend dogs don't have inherent levels of aggression that varies by individual and even by breed.

Remember...domestic dogs weren't beamed down from a spaceship. They were intentionally bred by men from wolves. They no doubt selected those wolves who were less aggressive and more communal but still they are derived from wild animal stock. I wonder if anyone would let a pack of wild wolves lick peanut butter off their toddler's face? Ditto a bunch of rottweilers....even if they were raised by Mother Theresa.

My experience with most rottweiler owners is they are ill-educated jerks. At least we can't balme the dogs for that. Not all rottweilers are hyper-aggressive..not all rottweiler owners have prison tattoos...but there is definitely a bias.
 
Sure, some dogs are bred with certain characteristics or traits in mind (ie bull-baiting, fighting, guard, etc). But genes only influence things to a certain point, their main influence is their owners, the way they are trained and raised.

I know many people who have had nothing but pit bulls for decades and they love this breed more than any other - they are supposed to be extremely loyal and affectionate. So really, I think it all comes down to (in most cases) how they are raised and trained. One dog that used to be fearsome was the English Bull Dog - bred to attack bulls and hold onto the muzzle for long periods of time until the bull finally gives in. Fearsome dogs and fighters! Now they are big babies who make great family dogs, very loyal and protective of their families.

I'd like people to also keep in mind that small dogs tend to bite people more than large dogs. But you never hear any complaints because they don't do as much damage - either way, a bite is still a bite! Small dogs are much more agressive than large dogs.
 
The reality is that a dog can turn aggressive for no reason whatsoever. You don't have to beat a pit bull to make it aggressive, it is in the breeding. Sure, I've met plenty of good natured pit bulls, but all it takes is one moments confusion or anger and the pit bull is suddenly not so good natured.

I love dogs, and 9 out of 10 times they are loyal and loving their entire lives...but exceptions to the rule always exist. This poor old man was one of the exceptions.
 
Keltoi said:
The reality is that a dog can turn aggressive for no reason whatsoever. You don't have to beat a pit bull to make it aggressive, it is in the breeding. Sure, I've met plenty of good natured pit bulls, but all it takes is one moments confusion or anger and the pit bull is suddenly not so good natured.

I love dogs, and 9 out of 10 times they are loyal and loving their entire lives...but exceptions to the rule always exist. This poor old man was one of the exceptions.
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I agree, this is what I was trying to convey in my example before.. I have no problem with dogs, but as Cog said, they are animals that ultimately were bred from wolves. In a confusing or unusual situation they will revert to their more aggressive side as a form of self preservation. It is the same with any animal, wild or domestic, and animals should be treated as such.

In this particular situation though with an old man being mauled to death, I just cant see what that man could have done to provoke this animal to not only bit but actually maul and continue to maul. That animal in my opinion had a thirst to kill, and with that in mind I must agree that it is in that dogs breeding and blood.
 
thirdwatch512 said:
Lol I have 3 dogs and one cat, and the cat is MUCH more violent then the dogs! I have never once been bitten by any of my dogs but the cat is so stubborn that he will bite me to wake me up! lol it is so funny seeing a cat bite.

Anyways but yeah, sad to hear. People need to start training their dogs better, and people themselves need to quit abusing animals so much. Dogs become violent because they are usually taught that way.
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we use to have a grey ragdoll persian named "FLUFF"
she was a demon cat. she literally stared down any dog that crossed her path "witnessed it over 7 times" and she had the personality of..
Scratch... pet me..
scratch.. stop petting me.
 
rottweiler are dangerous dog my friend had one they police put it down because there dangerous I think there illegal in the UK not sure

But I want a German sheppard myself :)
 
...just stick wit a fishy...it harmless...mine fell down the sink tho...but i dunt care.lol
 
man this story just disgust me...ew...that sick...ew...ew...i just read it again (paying attention) and thats sick...and london police are worse than american police...why wud they hit the bat on the wall instead of the dog...too scared of risking there lives..lol...okey im done..


( i still like london tho)
 
truemuslim said:
...just stick wit a fishy...it harmless...mine fell down the sink tho...but i dunt care.lol
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Unless you have a lionfish or something that could eat you.

Anyways the point of an animal turning on someone for self-preservation could be used for people as well.

Dogs have been around for 10000 years if not so much and yes are descendants from the grey wolf. But that would mean all dogs could be killers at a moments notice. I've had plenty of dogs in my life and have known plenty of dogs in my life. I've only been bit twice and one was my fault and the other was the dog was old and senial. As a kid we had a dog that my sister and I could lay on, grab food from, hang from, and we never had it react aggressively to us.
 

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